Americans

feiterman · Post by **feiterman** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:55 pm

Guiscard wrote:
flashleg8 wrote:I personally think Saddam played a bad bluff about whole the WMD thing. On and off since the first gulf war he'd been letting weapons inspectors in for a bit, then throwing them out until the US got too pissed then he'd let them back in a bit till it cooled down, repeat ad infinitum. This worked fine pre 9/11 because no-one (the UN) really wanted a war over something so minor as a few broken UN-resolutions - hell half the planet is in violation of one or more resolutions. But Saddam badly misjudged the US's change in perspective after 9/11. The US government basically had a mandate from its people to do whatever it wanted in foreign policy. The regime clearly wanted to settle some old scores and expand its influence in some areas (A pro US Afghanistan would give influence to the resource rich "stans" of the former USSR - Iraq adds to Middle East oil countries in US sphere of control). Saddam does his usual trick of stopping weapons inspector access to look tough to his neighbors and people, and when the US escalated the diplomatic threats he gave the impression he did have WMD (or at least didn't cave immediately to the demands and deny their existence). It suited him to have the world think he was “tooled up” as this gave him international and regional prestige. In hindsight this was all posturing and bluffing.
I personally think North Korea is going down the same route. I don't believe they are nuclear capable at the present, and their missile testing shenanigans etc is really an attempt to pretend they have better defenses than they really do.
Yeh this is pretty what the whole situation suggests to me too. You talk a lot of sense.

Saddam must have been a shitty poker player then.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:31 pm

Well, if you outbluffed him he'd have you tortured and killed...

Guess that means he won a lot of hands on poker night with chemical ali and the boys!

feiterman · Post by **feiterman** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:41 pm

Guiscard wrote:Well, if you outbluffed him he'd have you tortured and killed...

Guess that means he won a lot of hands on poker night with chemical ali and the boys!

Is it wrong that i find that funny

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:10 pm

Well I'd hope so it was a joke...

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:36 pm

Chemical Ali: "Read ‘em' and weep Saddam! A full house"
Tariq Aziz:"Woot! He's got you there!"
Saddam:"Ha! Think again - black aces and black eights!"
Chemical Ali: "What's that - a two pair? A full house beats two pair."
Saddam:"No, its the dead mans hand. As in - if I don't win you're a dead man"
Tariq Aziz:"Let the Wookie win"

feiterman · Post by **feiterman** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:24 am

flashleg8 wrote:Chemical Ali: "Read ‘em' and weep Saddam! A full house"
Tariq Aziz:"Woot! He's got you there!"
Saddam:"Ha! Think again - black aces and black eights!"
Chemical Ali: "What's that - a two pair? A full house beats two pair."
Saddam:"No, its the dead mans hand. As in - if I don't win you're a dead man"
Tariq Aziz:"Let the Wookie win"

That would be a great SNL or mad tv skit

admiral217 · Post by **admiral217** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:47 am

Chemical Ali: "Read ‘em' and weep Saddam! A full house"
Tariq Aziz:"Woot! He's got you there!"
Saddam:"Ha! Think again - black aces and black eights!"
Chemical Ali: "What's that - a two pair? A full house beats two pair."
Saddam:"No, its the dead mans hand. As in - if I don't win you're a dead man"
Tariq Aziz:"Let the Wookie win"

I love the star wars reference, but uh excuse me *adjusts glasses* it's WOOKIEE.

Kid_A · Post by **Kid_A** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:54 am

you people make me laugh

admiral217 · Post by **admiral217** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:15 am

Yes, well that was the aim.

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:37 pm

admiral217 wrote:
Chemical Ali: "Read ‘em' and weep Saddam! A full house"
Tariq Aziz:"Woot! He's got you there!"
Saddam:"Ha! Think again - black aces and black eights!"
Chemical Ali: "What's that - a two pair? A full house beats two pair."
Saddam:"No, its the dead mans hand. As in - if I don't win you're a dead man"
Tariq Aziz:"Let the Wookie win"
I love the star wars reference, but uh excuse me *adjusts glasses* it's WOOKIEE.

Classic

admiral217 · Post by **admiral217** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:37 am

I try.

AnthraX1 · Post by **AnthraX1** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:01 pm

Another jelous American wanabe... Yes we know we are the best no reason to remind us by showing us how jelous you all are.

D.IsleRealBrown · Post by **D.IsleRealBrown** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:47 pm

AnthraX1 wrote:Another jelous American wanabe...

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:29 pm

This thread stayed off the top for a whole 6 days! All that jealousy must be receding!

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:14 pm

Go America!

iAnonymous · Post by **iAnonymous** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:24 pm

AnthraX1 wrote:Another jelous American wanabe...

Fuck you. No one wants to be an American.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:50 am

iAnonymous wrote:
AnthraX1 wrote:Another jelous American wanabe...
Fuck you. No one wants to be an American.

The mexicans do.

Titanic · Post by **Titanic** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:32 am

No, they just want a better job and more money. They don't actually want to be American.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:08 pm

^^^ hahaha.......

foolish_yeti · Post by **foolish_yeti** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:38 pm

Sweet- the thread is back, bay-bee! Zombie threads for life.....uh...or death?!!!

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:00 pm

Titanic wrote:No, they just want a better job and more money. They don't actually want to be American.

Joke BTW.

RugbyFX · Post by **RugbyFX** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:35 pm

LoL I have nothing against Americans personally, every country has there lazy retarded unemployed losers, Theres good and bad ppl everywhere. I happen to be Canadian, tho I am half American (fathers side) but we stayed here in Canada because of the free health care and the fact we have family here. Every country has something that makes them good, the states has many resources, all in all I think all countries are equal in some asspects to how there civilians act and as to the money issue, Yes Americans take from other countries but so does the rest of the world, there just less sneaky about it:p (JK) The reason the majority of these countries are poor is beacus of the terraine, not are fault if u dont have fresh water or other valuable resources, its just the hand u were dealt.

ritz627 · Post by **ritz627** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:42 pm

RugbyFX wrote: The reason the majority of these countries are poor is beacus of the terraine, not are fault if u dont have fresh water or other valuable resources, its just the hand u were dealt.

Other than the serious typo's on the last sentence, well said

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RugbyFX · Post by **RugbyFX** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:44 pm

lol thanks I had to type fast and I didnt have time to correct it lol, dad was calling me

foolish_yeti · Post by **foolish_yeti** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:09 pm

RugbyFX wrote: The reason the majority of these countries are poor is beacus of the terraine, not are fault if u dont have fresh water or other valuable resources, its just the hand u were dealt.

Take a look at what the States going in and utterly destroying countries (or having a hand in it- Latin America is a good example, or Iran or Iraq), or the World Bank and the IMF's role (countries in massive debt), capitalism (globalization), etc. Not to mention that developed countries are living way beyond their means...the States has a ecological footprint 94% greater than it's capacity...places like Japan are more like 400% over. Canada is the exception, but that's because of our small population and large land mass- our footprint is still around 6.5 ha. Those extra resources have to come from somewhere.