We'll see how tolerant these Muslims are of gay bars

[saxitoxin]

LOL! Jinx, 2dimes! You owe me a bottle of oxytocin!

[2dimes]

Aii, yii, yii. Not again.

[Incandenza]

What I love about this is how the fucktard in question is holding Muslims to a higher standard than Catholics, Evangelicals, and Mormons. That's the sweet sweet taste of straw man, right there.

[danes]

What if they build a Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build an AA Chapter next to the Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a medicinal marijuana dispensary next to the AA Chapter next to the Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Detroit: "Why doesn't anyone revenge construction our city!"

Where is the psychiatric hospital going to go?

[jonesthecurl]

What if they build a Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build an AA Chapter next to the Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a medicinal marijuana dispensary next to the AA Chapter next to the Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Detroit: "Why doesn't anyone revenge construction our city!"

I don't know why she swallowed a fly.
Perhaps she'll die.

[b.k. barunt]

Still, that doesn't mean we should fight against the practice of their religion.

Yougottabefuckingkiddingme. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for all those deaths where they're building that fucking mosque. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for many more deaths on a daily basis. Do you ever hear any of the "peaceful muslims" actively protesting the actions of their more violent brethren? Hell no! Because the Koran itself backs up their violent actions.

So yeah, i'll fight against the "practice of their religion" whenever i get the chance.


Honibaz

[The Bison King]

What if they build a Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build an AA Chapter next to the Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then what if they build a medicinal marijuana dispensary next to the AA Chapter next to the Liquor Store next to the Mosque next to the Baptist Church next to the Gay Bar that's next to the Ground Zero Mosque?

Then it would be America.

Do you ever hear any of the "peaceful muslims" actively protesting the actions of their more violent brethren?

...I suppose I haven't, now that you mention it.

[Army of GOD]

Ok, I'm sorry, but when Glenn Beck thinks an idea is "over the top", THAT IDEA IS OVER THE TOP.

But we all know what's going to happen anyway. If something disatrous happens (bomb or whatever) it's gonna be the conservatives saying: "ZOMG! WE TOLD YOU GUIZE!"

[InkL0sed]

It's not even just the gay bar idea that's insulting. I'd guess that if it was a legitimate gay bar they'd put up with it.

But this one he's suggesting is basically an Islamophobic gay bar. All of the ideas he mentions for names and such in the video are pretty offensive. If they actually made one that was like that, I think they'd be justified in being annoyed at the least. Though it probably wouldn't see any business if the blatantly Islamophobic stuff stayed.

[Timminz]

That's okay though, because the Mosque is going to have a giant mural of the burning towers, on the largest outside wall, facing ground zero.

Tit for tat, right?

[Baron Von PWN]

Still, that doesn't mean we should fight against the practice of their religion.

Yougottabefuckingkiddingme. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for all those deaths where they're building that fucking mosque. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for many more deaths on a daily basis. Do you ever hear any of the "peaceful muslims" actively protesting the actions of their more violent brethren? Hell no! Because the Koran itself backs up their violent actions.

So yeah, i'll fight against the "practice of their religion" whenever i get the chance.


Honibaz

When was the last time you saw Christians out and protesting the crusades? There are plenty of Muslims against violence and what happened on 9/11. No need to pretend a religion of over a billion people is monolithic.

[AAFitz]

Still, that doesn't mean we should fight against the practice of their religion.

Yougottabefuckingkiddingme. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for all those deaths where they're building that fucking mosque. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for many more deaths on a daily basis. Do you ever hear any of the "peaceful muslims" actively protesting the actions of their more violent brethren? Hell no! Because the Koran itself backs up their violent actions.

So yeah, i'll fight against the "practice of their religion" whenever i get the chance.


Honibaz

I think you've just made a mockery of every complaint about CC mods dictating what people can or cant say in a little forum, as you are now suggesting what religions are acceptable and which or not.

Well, except that no one actually cares about CC forums, but religion to many is a fundamental reason for their being. Its ok though. Racism, by its very nature is always discriminatory, and always similarly justified by those doing the discrimination. It is the nature of things when people are guided by weakness, fear and ignorance, and always will be.

Enjoy your fight oppressing the rights of American citizens to practice their religion. Just remember the freedom of religion is one of the more important ideals of the country our soldiers fighting for.
Note: I do not discount that you sacrificed much as you fought for your country as well, but Im not about to speculate as to the reasons.

To suggest all muslims are terrorists in wait, and support the terrorist acts of their extremists, is so ridiculous as to pass over laughable, and venture into laughableasanythingiveeverreadbeforeevenfromsomeonewhosimplyhasnothingbettertodowiththeirtimethanspewhateateverychancebecauseofadeepseetedhatredofhowlifehasturnedoutandsimplycantevenseethehypocracyofthedifferentcauseshepretendstofightforsopassionatelyandsorandomly.

[b.k. barunt]

fitzi you're a real class act. You're arsehurt from making yourself look like an idiot in the hotgaybumsex thread, so you make a thread about bikers to bait me into flaming you, now you're going to follow me around and hump my leg for God knows how long. What fun!

I'm not "suggesting" that Islam is an unacceptable religion, i'm stating it rather vehemently. Any religion that advocates killing those who don't believe in it is unacceptable. Any religion that advocates the absolute oppression of women is unacceptable. Very ironic that you want to apply Freedom of Religion to a religion that advocates killing those who do not believe in it - only you could come up with that one. ROTFLMAO.

Howsabout you post a link where i said "all muslims are terrorists in waiting"? I'd never say such a thing because it's not true. Professing muslims are like professing Christians - most of them "believe" at a superficial level and are really just riding the bandwagon for various reasons - mostly laziness and or cowardice. I have more respect for the terrorists than i do for the "peaceful muslims" because at least the terrorists are practicing what the Koran preaches. The Koran says "kill the infidels" so if you're not killing infidels or at least supporting those who do then you are not a true believer - you are a fooking hypocrite. I say kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

There, that should give you some good leg humping ammo for a while. Enjoy.


Yer fren,
Honibaz

[saxitoxin]

But this one he's suggesting is basically an Islamophobic gay bar. All of the ideas he mentions for names and such in the video are pretty offensive.

Big deal! As a dialectic atheist, I say if people want to believe in fairy tales and an invisible man in the sky they probably deserve to be offended.

That's okay though, because the Mosque is going to have a giant mural of the burning towers, on the largest outside wall, facing ground zero.
Tit for tat, right?

Uh ... according to this line of argument, the previous protestations that this center doesn't represent a violent, radical enunciation of Islam is just a PR stunt and they are, in fact, terrorist sympathizers? It would be different if, say, the mosque responded by putting up a mural of gays being hanged to death or sodomized with light fixtures as this religion tends to do.

As a dialectic atheist I believe in freedom of expression, but the state has no obligation to grant building permits to houses of worship. There should be no religious facilities constructed anywhere.

[tzor]

When was the last time you saw Christians out and protesting the crusades? There are plenty of Muslims against violence and what happened on 9/11. No need to pretend a religion of over a billion people is monolithic.

Hate to tell you this, but the crusades were over a thousand years ago. You claim that there are plenty of Muslims but I don't see them. You would think that the liberal media would find them. They appear to be a very silent majority (if indeed they are a majority).

By the way, if you want to talk about the protestor of the crusades, you need to look at the real Francis of Assisi. He went right into the Middle East and not only lived with the Muslim population (as a servant ... there are serious debates about the influence of Susfism in Franciscan theology) but also walked directly to the Muslim leader unarmed in order to promote a peacefull solution. (Not that it had any immediate effect.)

[tzor]

Big deal! As a dialectic atheist, I say if people want to believe in fairy tales and an invisible man in the sky they probably deserve to be offended.

We all have our "fantasies" we love to blindly follow. Some have God, some have communism.

[Baron Von PWN]

When was the last time you saw Christians out and protesting the crusades? There are plenty of Muslims against violence and what happened on 9/11. No need to pretend a religion of over a billion people is monolithic.

Hate to tell you this, but the crusades were over a thousand years ago. You claim that there are plenty of Muslims but I don't see them. You would think that the liberal media would find them. They appear to be a very silent majority (if indeed they are a majority).

By the way, if you want to talk about the protestor of the crusades, you need to look at the real Francis of Assisi. He went right into the Middle East and not only lived with the Muslim population (as a servant ... there are serious debates about the influence of Susfism in Franciscan theology) but also walked directly to the Muslim leader unarmed in order to promote a peacefull solution. (Not that it had any immediate effect.)

Why should they have to? its clear the terrorists are crazy people it isn't what they believe. That being said here are some links to Muslims condemning 9/11

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

[saxitoxin]

When was the last time you saw Christians out and protesting the crusades? There are plenty of Muslims against violence and what happened on 9/11. No need to pretend a religion of over a billion people is monolithic.

Hate to tell you this, but the crusades were over a thousand years ago. You claim that there are plenty of Muslims but I don't see them. You would think that the liberal media would find them. They appear to be a very silent majority (if indeed they are a majority).

By the way, if you want to talk about the protestor of the crusades, you need to look at the real Francis of Assisi. He went right into the Middle East and not only lived with the Muslim population (as a servant ... there are serious debates about the influence of Susfism in Franciscan theology) but also walked directly to the Muslim leader unarmed in order to promote a peacefull solution. (Not that it had any immediate effect.)

Why should they have to? its clear the terrorists are crazy people it isn't what they believe. That being said here are some links to Muslims condemning 9/11

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

According to timminz, however, that's just all a PR stunt. They'll do a 180 and embrace 9/11 and put up murals celebrating it if someone says something they don't like.

Like ol' Saxi condemning the holocaust until a Jew steals my parking spot at Ralph's, then I start burning Stars of David on Yom Kippur.

The problem is people who believe in sword & sorcery fairy tales and invisible dragons who grant you three wishes. There should be no tolerance for any religion, it's a social plague and must be quarantined and suppressed like any other disease. No atheist ever blew-up a building.

[Baron Von PWN]

According to timminz, however, that's just all a PR stunt. They'll do a 180 and embrace 9/11 and put up murals celebrating it if someone says something they don't like.

Like ol' Saxi condemning the holocaust until a Jew steals my parking spot at Ralph's, then I start burning Stars of David on Yom Kippur.

The problem is people who believe in sword & sorcery fairy tales and invisible dragons who grant you three wishes. There should be no tolerance for any religion, it's a social plague and must be quarantined and suppressed like any other disease. No atheist ever blew-up a building.

If that realy is what timminz meant, well then he's quite simply wrong. If you drop religious tolerance then I think you would find allot of need for blowing up buildings.

[saxitoxin]

According to timminz, however, that's just all a PR stunt. They'll do a 180 and embrace 9/11 and put up murals celebrating it if someone says something they don't like.

Like ol' Saxi condemning the holocaust until a Jew steals my parking spot at Ralph's, then I start burning Stars of David on Yom Kippur.

The problem is people who believe in sword & sorcery fairy tales and invisible dragons who grant you three wishes. There should be no tolerance for any religion, it's a social plague and must be quarantined and suppressed like any other disease. No atheist ever blew-up a building.

If that realy is what timminz meant, well then he's quite simply wrong. If you drop religious tolerance then I think you would find allot of need for blowing up buildings.

That's not supported by history ...

During socialism, Albania was an atheist state for decades; the world's first declared and enforced atheist state. After the Muslim superstition was allowed to reinfect the national psyche, the crime rate skyrocketed and sectarian and communal violence have increased dramatically in the last 2 decades with a recent spate of honor killings. Left-oriented journalists who have called for the ban on all religions to be reintroduced have been slaughtered in the streets of Tirana. Only reactionary and ultra-conservative press can now safely publish in Albania.

[Timminz]

I'm sorry you've misunderstood me, Saxi. I will try to be more clear in the future.

What I meant was that the plan for the mosque already includes the mural I mentioned earlier, thus making the proposed gay bar as offensive to it's neighbours (those pesky Muslims) as possible is totally acceptable in an eye-for-an-eye* kinda way.

*though I must say, I do prefer "tit for tat" in this particular instance.

[saxitoxin]

The problem with most people defending the House of Superstition in this thread is that - in any other thread - you would find them viciously bashing Christianity because to do so feeds into the sense of rebellion by which they've defined themselves, Christianity being the paternalistic superstition of the west, where they live. Ultimately they are more interested in cultivating and promoting the image they've created of themselves than any real ideology. This demands their rejection of the majority faith superstition but zealous protection of the supposed rights of fringe superstitions.

They need to define and conform their left-orientation to the mold that has been created for them by supposed left thought-leaders in their country: Christianity bad, any minority superstition good. They are incapable of enunciating points that don't parrot this line. They are "Fashion Radicals", not real, independent thinkers.

The true revolutionary radical, like ol' Saxi, will recognize the encompassing issues in all superstitions and denigrate them each, equally, with no interest in conforming to the "favored" leftist line pushed by a district committeeman of XYZ party or a "book club socialist" cum editorial columnist at AdBusters.

What a bunch of limp-wristed, apologetic, sycophantic, whiners which constitute the Left in North America and Europe! A real leftist doesn't wait for marching orders, or to check and see which way the wind is blowing, before slavishly galumphing along with the leadership line. Sheesh. Nancies.

[Woodruff]

Still, that doesn't mean we should fight against the practice of their religion.

Yougottabefuckingkiddingme. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for all those deaths where they're building that fucking mosque. The "practice of their religion" is responsible for many more deaths on a daily basis. Do you ever hear any of the "peaceful muslims" actively protesting the actions of their more violent brethren? Hell no! Because the Koran itself backs up their violent actions.

So yeah, i'll fight against the "practice of their religion" whenever i get the chance.
Honibaz

When was the last time you saw Christians out and protesting the crusades?

Um...

[saxitoxin]

I'm sorry you've misunderstood me, Saxi. I will try to be more clear in the future.

What I meant was that the plan for the mosque already includes the mural I mentioned earlier, thus making the proposed gay bar as offensive to it's neighbours (those pesky Muslims) as possible is totally acceptable in an eye-for-an-eye* kinda way.

*though I must say, I do prefer "tit for tat" in this particular instance.

Go back to watching Easy Rider, reading Jack Kerouc and wearing your Phish t-shirts, kid.

Leave all this to the real Left.

[Timminz]

Watching what? Reading whom?

I was born in the 80's, silly.