Trouble at Omega Sector Colony! Mafia --- Weekend 4

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:12 pm

CBlake wrote:Reason?

Well... having never played with you in a game before I don't really know your style. The same goes for a lot of you. But, with Cblake his general forum attitude is less than helpful and to say the least you annoy me a great deal. I don't see you being helpful to the town, so it isn't necessary to keep you around. However, I would like to lynch max first, so you have the whole week to convince me why I shouldn't vote for you next week, and why you will be helpful.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:26 pm

AK, If I did not agree with you then your actions would look scummy . Meaning I agreee that we should lynch a noob, but we dont need to rush it.

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:30 pm

Machiavelli wrote:AK, If I did not agree with you then your actions would look scummy . Meaning I agreee that we should lynch a noob, but we dont need to rush it.

I don't think we should rush it either, we should talk it out for the week, since even if we vote early we have to wait till the end of the week for the lynch scene.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:43 pm

I think we should let max defend himself before we drop the hammer.

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:44 pm

everywhere116 wrote:I think we should let max defend himself before we drop the hammer.

Drop the hammer? He only has 1 vote! Am I missing something?

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:46 pm

No. I meant that before we get a big bandwagon, we should let him defend himself.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:46 pm

AK_iceman wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:AK, If I did not agree with you then your actions would look scummy . Meaning I agreee that we should lynch a noob, but we dont need to rush it.
I don't think we should rush it either, we should talk it out for the week, since even if we vote early we have to wait till the end of the week for the lynch scene.

What pearls of wisdom you have there ICE. LOL. anyway lets see.

Week 1 Max = annoying
Week 2 CBlake = a tiny bit less annoying than Max
Week 3 Then = whoever looks scummy after that

just want to make sure I get this out there for all the noob mafia to know that they have 3 weeks to live before we even start looking for them.

How bout real evidence. I know you are better than that, letting little turds mess you up during a game.

CBlake · Post by **CBlake** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:51 pm

Senfive wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:AK, If I did not agree with you then your actions would look scummy . Meaning I agreee that we should lynch a noob, but we dont need to rush it.
I don't think we should rush it either, we should talk it out for the week, since even if we vote early we have to wait till the end of the week for the lynch scene.
What pearls of wisdom you have there ICE. LOL. anyway lets see.

Week 1 Max = annoying
Week 2 CBlake = a tiny bit less annoying than Max
Week 3 Then = whoever looks scummy after that

just want to make sure I get this out there for all the noob mafia to know that they have 3 weeks to live before we even start looking for them.

How bout real evidence. I know you are better than that, letting little turds mess you up during a game.

And your saying this just because we were in the last mafia game together and that was my first one i am still learning

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:52 pm

Senfive wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:AK, If I did not agree with you then your actions would look scummy . Meaning I agreee that we should lynch a noob, but we dont need to rush it.
I don't think we should rush it either, we should talk it out for the week, since even if we vote early we have to wait till the end of the week for the lynch scene.
What pearls of wisdom you have there ICE. LOL. anyway lets see.

Week 1 Max = annoying
Week 2 CBlake = a tiny bit less annoying than Max
Week 3 Then = whoever looks scummy after that

just want to make sure I get this out there for all the noob mafia to know that they have 3 weeks to live before we even start looking for them.

How bout real evidence. I know you are better than that, letting little turds mess you up during a game.

What would you suggest for the first week Senfive? Lynch a random person, or lynch someone who will drive you up a wall the rest of the game and has just as good a chance of being mafia than anybody?

Besides, maybe with me going after them for not being helpful, they will try a little harder so thay can survive.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:57 pm

AK_iceman wrote:What would you suggest for the first week Senfive? Lynch a random person, or lynch someone who will drive you up a wall the rest of the game and has just as good a chance of being mafia than anybody?

Besides, maybe with me going after them for not being helpful, they will try a little harder so thay can survive.

Honestly in first weeks I like the whole No lynch unless someone smells of scum so bad I can taste it. usually its the ones that push so hard for a lynch and it turns out to be a townie that I go for. thats what I do. I do agree that getting rid of the annoying ones will help with the pleasure factor, but I like to win and thats not how you go about wining.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:58 pm

Senfive wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:What would you suggest for the first week Senfive? Lynch a random person, or lynch someone who will drive you up a wall the rest of the game and has just as good a chance of being mafia than anybody?

Besides, maybe with me going after them for not being helpful, they will try a little harder so thay can survive.
Honestly in first weeks I like the whole No lynch unless someone smells of scum so bad I can taste it. usually its the ones that push so hard for a lynch and it turns out to be a townie that I go for. thats what I do. I do agree that getting rid of the annoying ones will help with the pleasure factor, but I like to win and thats not how you go about wining.

I agree with this. I would rather have no lynch than to lynch a townie on the first day/week.
Vote: No Lynch

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:59 pm

Senfive wrote:Honestly in first weeks I like the whole No lynch unless someone smells of scum so bad I can taste it. usually its the ones that push so hard for a lynch and it turns out to be a townie that I go for. thats what I do. I do agree that getting rid of the annoying ones will help with the pleasure factor, but I like to win and thats not how you go about wining.

I like to win too, but how does no lynch ever help the town? Besides a vigilante, the only power the town has is to lynch the most suspicious or the least helpful player remaining.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:01 pm

Senfive wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:What would you suggest for the first week Senfive? Lynch a random person, or lynch someone who will drive you up a wall the rest of the game and has just as good a chance of being mafia than anybody?

Besides, maybe with me going after them for not being helpful, they will try a little harder so thay can survive.
Honestly in first weeks I like the whole No lynch unless someone smells of scum so bad I can taste it. usually its the ones that push so hard for a lynch and it turns out to be a townie that I go for. thats what I do. I do agree that getting rid of the annoying ones will help with the pleasure factor, but I like to win and thats not how you go about wining.

should read, "honestly the first week," instead of the bolded part....

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:02 pm

everywhere116 wrote:I agree with this. I would rather have no lynch than to lynch a townie on the first day/week.
Vote: No Lynch

Dont agree with that. That just helps the mafia pick us off with no resistance. Lynching somebody, even if it is a townie still helps the town because we can look at who pushed the votes, who bandwagoned, and who submarined and didn't vote until it was too late. All that is great evidence in finding mafia.
I firmly believe that a no lynch will never help the town, and it looks scummy when people suggest that it does.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:02 pm

On the first lynch it is almost always a pro-town roles since players will misconstrue anything into a scummy statement. The only time I have ever seen a day 1 lynch is in VGM's thread.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:03 pm

Day 1 lynch that was mafia, I mean.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:04 pm

dang, fast posted

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:07 pm

everywhere116 wrote:On the first lynch it is almost always a pro-town roles since players will misconstrue anything into a scummy statement. The only time I have ever seen a day 1 lynch is in VGM's thread.

But still, you have to admit that even though you lynch a townie it still gives way more evidence to go off of the next day than a no lynch would.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:07 pm

Yes, you're right there.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:08 pm

AK_iceman wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:On the first lynch it is almost always a pro-town roles since players will misconstrue anything into a scummy statement. The only time I have ever seen a day 1 lynch is in VGM's thread.
But still, you have to admit that even though you lynch a townie it still gives way more evidence to go off of the next day than a no lynch would.

Tis true on evidence but it also gives us one more townie to help us vote the next day.

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:09 pm

Senfive wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:On the first lynch it is almost always a pro-town roles since players will misconstrue anything into a scummy statement. The only time I have ever seen a day 1 lynch is in VGM's thread.
But still, you have to admit that even though you lynch a townie it still gives way more evidence to go off of the next day than a no lynch would.
Tis true on evidence but it also gives us one more townie to help us vote the next day.

Vote on what? The only thing you would have to go on would be the night kill, if it succeeds.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:13 pm

Fine then. I will Unvote No Lynch

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:13 pm

AK_iceman wrote:
Senfive wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:On the first lynch it is almost always a pro-town roles since players will misconstrue anything into a scummy statement. The only time I have ever seen a day 1 lynch is in VGM's thread.
But still, you have to admit that even though you lynch a townie it still gives way more evidence to go off of the next day than a no lynch would.
Tis true on evidence but it also gives us one more townie to help us vote the next day.
Vote on what? The only thing you would have to go on would be the night kill, if it succeeds.

What if there is a day killer like in your game? with a lynch we would lose 3 people instead of 2 if we lynch. That extra person alive means that lynches can't be bandwagoned as fast with more townies. I have always and will always stick with the no lynch option the first week in large group games. You can do research if you like.

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:19 pm

Senfive wrote:What if there is a day killer like in your game? with a lynch we would lose 3 people instead of 2 if we lynch. That extra person alive means that lynches can't be bandwagoned as fast with more townies. I have always and will always stick with the no lynch option the first week in large group games. You can do research if you like.

I'm not going to talk about my game since it isnt over yet, but if there is day kills, then that would change the scenario and wouldn't require any random votes since that would be evidence. We could use the day kill to make an educated guess, but I still think that a no lynch would be the worst possible option for us.

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:20 pm

However, I dont think it is likely that there will be a day killer.
*crosses fingers*