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Postby VPOG on Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:17 pm

Queen_Herpes has made herself a hobby : to use rating abuse when she loses a game .
i got an abuse ,emergentsea also did ( and he replied as being abused in his rating chart ) ,and Great-Ollie also approached me on the matter as he suffered the same treatment .
put a stop to it ,please !!

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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:31 pm

VPOG wrote:Accused:
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Accused of:
Ratings Abuse


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Comments:Queen_Herpes has made himself/herself a hobby : to use rating abuse when it ( yes..."it" ) loses a game .
i got an abuse ,emergentsea also did ( and he replied as being abused in his rating chart ) ,and Great-Ollie also approached me on the matter as he suffered the same treatment .


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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby VPOG on Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:39 pm

by the way - and quick look at the ratings Queen_Herpes left to other reveal a long list of people that were treated just the same :
they won the game ,and were abused by Queen_Herpes.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Great-Ollie on Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:54 pm

Ok she did same thing to me. I have only played her twice then she foed me after i beat her. All 1 ratings with rude, cheap tactics, silent tags. Look at game chat, where did she get all this from. Maybe silent yes, didn't know it would get me bad ratings.

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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby ۩░▒▓₪№™℮₪▓▒░۩ on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:12 pm

Speed Game Game 6750170, Queen Herpes lost to me and left me a poor rating. I made a huge comeback to win the game, she got tri trade after tri trade and u can see I acknowledged it in the chat log.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby lokisgal on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:38 pm

۩░▒▓₪№™℮₪▓▒░۩ wrote:Speed Game Game 6750170, Queen Herpes lost to me and left me a poor rating. I made a huge comeback to win the game, she got tri trade after tri trade and u can see I acknowledged it in the chat log.


thats funny coming from you -you foe anyone who beats you in a speed
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Queen_Herpes on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:57 pm

lokisgal wrote:
۩░▒▓₪№™℮₪▓▒░۩ wrote:Speed Game Game 6750170, Queen Herpes lost to me and left me a poor rating. I made a huge comeback to win the game, she got tri trade after tri trade and u can see I acknowledged it in the chat log.


thats funny coming from you -you foe anyone who beats you in a speed


I'll start here, since it the funniest place to start. Thanks for the comment lokisgal.

If the "symbol" is on your side, VPOG, I'd have to say you might not be on the right side of the argument. Just a guess, but a known cheater that is exchanging wall messages with you doesn't paint the best picture of you, emergentsea, and, well, the symbol formerly known as King Burger. If, perchance, it comes out that you are multis of the symbol, I will find it funny. If not, I still stand by my belief that siding with the symbol isn't always the best place to be.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Woodruff on Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:29 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:
lokisgal wrote:
۩░▒▓₪№™℮₪▓▒░۩ wrote:Speed Game Game 6750170, Queen Herpes lost to me and left me a poor rating. I made a huge comeback to win the game, she got tri trade after tri trade and u can see I acknowledged it in the chat log.


thats funny coming from you -you foe anyone who beats you in a speed


I'll start here, since it the funniest place to start. Thanks for the comment lokisgal.

If the "symbol" is on your side, VPOG, I'd have to say you might not be on the right side of the argument. Just a guess, but a known cheater that is exchanging wall messages with you doesn't paint the best picture of you, emergentsea, and, well, the symbol formerly known as King Burger. If, perchance, it comes out that you are multis of the symbol, I will find it funny. If not, I still stand by my belief that siding with the symbol isn't always the best place to be.


They're only exchanging wall messages in regard to this thread...that doesn't seem particularly egregious to me. It just looks to me like VPOG went to others who he saw had also received lower ratings from you in order to try to drum up some support for this claim, rather than anything really nefarious.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby VPOG on Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:48 pm

a fact is a fact ,Queen_herpes : you are abusive when you lose .plain and simple .
trying to divert the discussion is maybe your way to avoid the accusation instead of giving an answer .
the way you tried to manipulate the game was still in the boundaries of the game .i chose to ignore it and play MY game ,and not play for you ( leave me that ,leave me this ) so you got angry ( and silent ) and decided to stick to your commonly used revenge ,it appears : 1 ratings and rude ,cheap tactics and so on .
i have no case to answer - but you do !!
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:49 pm

I would also suggest that if QH has to resort to ad hominem attacks regarding her accusers, then she's more or less conceding that the substance of the assertion is correct.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Queen_Herpes on Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:30 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:I would also suggest that if QH has to resort to ad hominem attacks regarding her accusers, then she's more or less conceding that the substance of the assertion is correct.


Lol. And I'm laughing at you, just so you know. You know how "life happens?" You've brought up that position in the thread about missing turns? Well, here's an opportunity for me to add a little to that argument, while responding to your retort here. I don't join or start games when I know there is a reasonable opportunity to miss my turns. Plain and simple. I think it is unfair to the other players. Now, when I am posting on the forums, my attitude is different. I may post something like "I'll start here" with the intention of returning to the thread to post again. Then, life happens, and I come back to conquerclub to post again. And, in this thread, before I could return, I see Metsfanmax has come to post before I could return.

Ah, yes, Metsfanmax, if only I had posted faster, right? Perhaps you wouldn't have felt the need to use fancy words (ad hominem) and assume that I am not negating the original post?

Now that I've taken the time to write this...I have to wrap presents for my son's birthday, and I will return (tonight? ...perhaps) to write a concerned and proper response to the original poster. Suffice it to say that I am not "conceding that the substance of the assertion is correct."
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby phantomzero on Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:05 pm

Queen_Herpes from Her Profile Page wrote:Snakes, Hair Salons, making stone busts that are incredibly life-like. Attitude Ratings: one star for a greeting add a star for wishing luck add a star for saying "gg" (or similar) add a star for each additional line of positive commentary subtract a star for any negative lines of commentary
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Queen_Herpes on Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:09 am

VPOG wrote:Queen_Herpes has made himself/herself a hobby : to use rating abuse when it ( yes..."it" ) loses a game .
i got an abuse ,emergentsea also did ( and he replied as being abused in his rating chart ) ,and Great-Ollie also approached me on the matter as he suffered the same treatment .
put a stop to it ,please !!

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I'm quoting the original post here, and, honestly, I don't see anything to comment about. In your accusation, you referred to me as "it." Honestly, I don't think anyone should have to respond to an accusation where the accuser is using the asexual or neuter pronoun to describe you. But I will respond, as otherwise, I'm sure someone will claim that I never responded and therefore assumed it to be correct.

You have cited one game and referred to another user without citing a game. The game in reference you and emergentsea received, IMO a fair rating. I believed the two of you to be using secret diplomacy in the Live Chat. You posted awkward comments on each others walls. If I had the time, I would have reported the secret diplomacy, but I didn't feel there was enough to warrant a bust and, instead, I would have simply wasted the C&A mods time. So, I rated accordingly, foed you and moved on.

If you browse my "ratings left" you will find that I do provide low ratings for players who have demonstrated negativity of some form. Of those who have received low ratings from me, most already have a low average rating, so I feel my ratings have been (for the most part) spot-on. There are probably a few ratings left here and there that may not reflect the user's average rating, but that are correct for the game I played. I also offer a wide range of ratings, and pay strict attention (or I at least attempt to) leaving an appropriate rating that is as close as possible to what the game experience was like.

In addition, I go back (from-time-to-time) to re-evaluate the ratings I have left to determine if, perhaps, I left a rating that was not in-line with what transpired in the game. I also withdraw positive ratings that I have left for players who unfairly left me a low rating. Sometimes, ratings stay. Other times, they get withdrawn.

Again, I feel this accusation is incorrect and as the hammer tends to fall quickly around here, I would appreciate an opportunity to respond publicly to any decision that even remotely hints at impropriety on my part with respect to "ratings abuse."
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby jefjef on Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:36 am

Ratings abuse?

Here's what I see. But it is only my opinion.

Mark0609 = 1 stars. Too low of a rating imo.

Scipio70 = 1 attitude and tagged sore loser. Not quite accurate from the chat I saw. But doesn't matter. I believe this dude is a multi regardless what LV says.

alt1978 = deadbeat. Well not an accurate tag as far as the CC definition.

barley = silent + rude. Well I think Queen believes silence is rudeness.

Matt2006 = 1 stars + deadbeat. Well not an accurate tag as far as the CC definition. Bit low on the ratings imo.

Fralom = sore loser + silent. Well this is a contradiction.

danryan = sore loser. Not in the chat.

But I can't say they are vindictive or qualify as severe ratings abuse.

Of what I looked at I see only two that seem to be purely vindictive without basis.

zapusca007 (page two) + Great-Ollie

Sorry. Does not quite reach the abuse plateau.

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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby VPOG on Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:41 am

finally .some kind of an answer from Queen .a bit obvious though - pointing fingers at others that is.
it is a fact that i played a number of speed games with emergensea .he's a great guy ,always playing fair ,and just so happens - we like the same type of configurations and the same maps on speed games - nothing out of the ordinary .the wall comments i sent him and he sent me back were about launching this thread .
so are the comments from the "symbol" and great-ollie ,each from his own personal reasons .

Jefjef - thank you for the time and effort you put into this matter .with that , i disagree with your final conclusion . reason is : there were others who won and were poorly rated in addition to :sore loser ,cheap tactics and so on .
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby eddie2 on Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:28 am

sorry but im not going to check all games but this one was getting played at the same time Game 7299661


now looks to me that the op and emergant sea are friends onsite so queen herpes was right to rate the op how she did when she suspected secret diplomacy
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Metsfanmax on Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:33 am

Queen_Herpes wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:I would also suggest that if QH has to resort to ad hominem attacks regarding her accusers, then she's more or less conceding that the substance of the assertion is correct.


Lol. And I'm laughing at you, just so you know. You know how "life happens?" You've brought up that position in the thread about missing turns? Well, here's an opportunity for me to add a little to that argument, while responding to your retort here. I don't join or start games when I know there is a reasonable opportunity to miss my turns. Plain and simple. I think it is unfair to the other players. Now, when I am posting on the forums, my attitude is different. I may post something like "I'll start here" with the intention of returning to the thread to post again. Then, life happens, and I come back to conquerclub to post again. And, in this thread, before I could return, I see Metsfanmax has come to post before I could return.

Ah, yes, Metsfanmax, if only I had posted faster, right? Perhaps you wouldn't have felt the need to use fancy words (ad hominem) and assume that I am not negating the original post?

Now that I've taken the time to write this...I have to wrap presents for my son's birthday, and I will return (tonight? ...perhaps) to write a concerned and proper response to the original poster. Suffice it to say that I am not "conceding that the substance of the assertion is correct."


I wouldn't have said anything if your original claim hadn't been so ridiculous. It's like saying that if Ted Bundy came out against murder, it would mean that all of the reasons why murder is wrong would suddenly gain a lot less validity...
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby eddie2 on Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:35 am

and omg i just found this game Game 7015712 ism the op a multi i know they are from different countrys but to have all n/r deadbeat bit strange
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Bones2484 on Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:44 am

eddie2 wrote:and omg i just found this game Game 7015712 ism the op a multi i know they are from different countrys but to have all n/r deadbeat bit strange


Really? You've never seen all N/R's deadbeat in a single game?
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Evil Semp on Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:20 am

eddie2 wrote:and omg i just found this game Game 7015712 ism the op a multi i know they are from different countrys but to have all n/r deadbeat bit strange


eddie if you feel that VPOG is farming fill out the form and make a complaint. This thread is about the ratings that QH leaves.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Queen_Herpes on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:07 am

Um, for those of you who are doubtful about VPOG's validity:

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=117091&start=0&p=2587874&view=show#p2587874

He opened a C&A report about someone else being racist and then VPOG was "busted" with 3 other accounts.

So that I may know which accounts are accusing me, could I get some information about whether 1) VPOG was busted and then repurchased premium? 2) The names of the other accounts? (In case they have posted here) 3) IF VPOG was somehow otherwise vindicated of cheating?

I must add that I find it funny that I posted earlier and joked that it would be funny if VPOG was found to be in violation of the rules as a result of posting here. LO AND BEHOLD! This has already happened to this player! And, much to my surprise, someone else who is posting here is another busted multi: The symbol formerly known as King Burger! Any chance these two are related?
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Darwins_Bane on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:21 am

Queen_Herpes wrote:Um, for those of you who are doubtful about VPOG's validity:

viewtopic.php?f=239&t=117091&start=0&p=2587874&view=show#p2587874

He opened a C&A report about someone else being racist and then VPOG was "busted" with 3 other accounts.

So that I may know which accounts are accusing me, could I get some information about whether 1) VPOG was busted and then repurchased premium? 2) The names of the other accounts? (In case they have posted here) 3) IF VPOG was somehow otherwise vindicated of cheating?

I must add that I find it funny that I posted earlier and joked that it would be funny if VPOG was found to be in violation of the rules as a result of posting here. LO AND BEHOLD! This has already happened to this player! And, much to my surprise, someone else who is posting here is another busted multi: The symbol formerly known as King Burger! Any chance these two are related?

if you have nothing to worry about? then why do you keep trying to throw the validity of the accusers into question? instead of making personal attacks on people why don't you try stating your reasons and then letting the mods decide? The more personal attacks you use as you try and deflect the blame, the more guilty you look. But now you're going to come back in here and right a huge post and quote mine.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:24 am

agreed it has nothing to do with who the user is.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby Queen_Herpes on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:33 am

lord voldemort wrote:agreed it has nothing to do with who the user is.


Darwins_Bane, who previously posted in support of finding out about busted multis in this thread:
posting.php?mode=quote&f=4&p=2661744

wrote this in that thread...

Darwins_Bane wrote:Well there are some things that can be done to streamline the coding. I think what QH and others are saying is not that they need to know why anyone was busted, but rather just that they were. Same goes for bans. Although with forum bans its a little more tricky. I would tend to lean towards to forum bans being kept private such as something like this. when a mod forum bans someone a couple extra lines of code are added so that in, for instance, the user's profile, it then says that they cannot communicate. We dont know what happened but the pertinent info(ie can play team games effectively, etc) is communicated.

In the case of being busted as multies, we already see a large amount (say 90%) of them in C&A reports. I think all QH is asking for again is that when a C&A mod busts someone a couple lines of code could be added so that it again prints out to the user's profile that they have been busted. It doesn't need to say what for or anything like that either. On the same type of thing it could have something marked cleared if that were the case, thus allowing users to easily see whether a new C&A report is a waste of time.

I believe a solution like this would satisfy allowing people to know when others are busted(which is mostly already done) it would centralize where to look to see if they have already had a report filed against them or whatever. it could even reduce the amount of redundant reports, and useless ones too.


So, I am surprised to find a post here from Darwins_Bane that calls into question my methods.

Essentially, we wouldn't be here if VPOG's bust was made more visible than a line written in an abuse report that VPOG started about someone else. I didn't see it before when searching his posts, because I wouldn't have expected to find a bust of the OP in a C&A thread. Sure, it happens, but when I originally joined the game, I also didn't see the bust before joining the game. Which, again, is an example of why we wouldn't be here if I could have easily found that VPOG was arleady a cheater. Why? Because I never would have joined a game with VPOG if it was known that he was/is a cheater.

If VPOG is a cheater, it should be noted. It shoudl also be noted if any of his other multis are posting in this thread.
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Re: Queen_Herpes

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:41 am

This has nothing to do with this report. Stop taking it off topic. Our current policies are not to share information regarding users discipline. This hasnt changed and prolly never will. If you have nothing to add re: Queen_Herpes -ratings abuse then please refrain from posting in this thread...you have been warned
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