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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby MrBenn on Sun May 02, 2010 4:11 pm

The territory name of Goemark Station is still misspelt as Goemrak Station

so what are you saying it should be?[/quote]
The territory name on the map is currently "Goemrak Station"
On the legend you have the region named as "Goemark"
I'm assuming that one of them is incorrect :?
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby cairnswk on Sun May 02, 2010 4:18 pm

MrBenn wrote:
The territory name of Goemark Station is still misspelt as Goemrak Station

so what are you saying it should be?

The territory name on the map is currently "Goemrak Station"
On the legend you have the region named as "Goemark"
I'm assuming that one of them is incorrect :?[/quote]

Ah, here i am thinking they're both wrong...but all the is wrong is one doesn't correspond to the other; why didn't you say so. ;)
Fixed. Please refresh.
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby ender516 on Sun May 02, 2010 4:33 pm

I also preferred the solid outlines for the sniper ranges. The dots are best left to the artillery bombardment borders. I do like the new colour for S2.
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby natty dread on Sun May 02, 2010 4:47 pm

I agree with above.
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby cairnswk on Sun May 02, 2010 4:50 pm

OK, i'll move back to solid lines. 3 quiuck opinion is good enough for me.
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby saraith on Sun May 02, 2010 7:49 pm

The rewrite is taking longer than I would have expected... Longer by far than the original draft :lol:

But I have most of the tert names changed, what's taking time is going back through and undoing my mistakes. Plus I'm having some trouble with some of the new names... particularly the ones with numbered units, like 674th 3rd div got changed to 64th 15th div, etc.

I can handle it, but like I said, it's just taking some time to cross-reference, that's all. But I am working on it, I really am :)
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby cairnswk on Sun May 02, 2010 8:28 pm

saraith wrote:The rewrite is taking longer than I would have expected... Longer by far than the original draft :lol:

But I have most of the tert names changed, what's taking time is going back through and undoing my mistakes. Plus I'm having some trouble with some of the new names... particularly the ones with numbered units, like 674th 3rd div got changed to 64th 15th div, etc.

I can handle it, but like I said, it's just taking some time to cross-reference, that's all. But I am working on it, I really am :)


Why are you re-writting, i thought you were going to use find and replace.
Anyways, keep up the good work. :)
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby cairnswk on Fri May 07, 2010 7:58 pm

saraith wrote:...But I am working on it, I really am :)


Still waiting... :-^
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Opinion?

Postby iancanton on Sun May 09, 2010 10:37 am

MrBenn wrote:The territory name on the map is currently "Goemrak Station"
On the legend you have the region named as "Goemark"
I'm assuming that one of them is incorrect :?


actually, goemark is incorrect and goemrak is spelt that way only in dutch texts (google goemrak and u'll see what i mean).

gumrak is the preferred english-language transliteration from cyrillic script.
jasnostj wrote:Goemark=Gumrak


http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/2212

ian. :)
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP] V32 (P33)

Postby jasnostj on Sun May 09, 2010 2:02 pm

cairnswk wrote:Yes, there are certain discrepancies, some of which i will leave alone (...)

cairnswk wrote:As for the 278 million people who speak russian, i doubt if many of them will ever see this site (...)
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Waiting for XML

Postby Dako on Mon May 17, 2010 3:14 pm

Hey there Cairns.

If you want some comments - I can provide an info of how Russian names and places should be spelled. I can see some misspells (should be kuporosnaya, Mameev). Also, you have an inconsistency in namings. For example, Zaitsev and Sheykin. Both have the same sound (well, I can't insert the sound here) and you spell it through 'y' one time and through 'i' another time - that is wrong.

Also, some terrs have mix of Russian and English. I think it is better to decide how you want to name them - full Russian or full English. For example, Rynok means marketplace. Mameev hill is Mameev Kurgan in Russian. On the other hand you have Hospital instead of Bolnitsa (or just Gospital).

So if you would like to have perfect namings here - please say so and I will comment each terr name :-).
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Waiting for XML

Postby cairnswk on Mon May 17, 2010 4:30 pm

^^ I'm happy with the current combination of names. :)
It is not my intention to seek perfection.
I'm just waiting for the xml to be done so this can get into beta
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P39) Waiting for XML

Postby Dako on Tue May 18, 2010 4:05 am

Oh, ok :-(.
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP] V36 (P36)

Postby cairnswk on Fri May 21, 2010 9:30 pm

Well, it looks like saraith might pull out of doing the xml, but i'm waiting on one last final word from him.
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) Waiting for XML

Postby cairnswk on Fri May 21, 2010 9:46 pm

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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) Waiting for XML

Postby cairnswk on Sat May 22, 2010 6:48 am

XML Completed, but not centered yet.

http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/_stalingrad_220510.xml
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Done

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat May 22, 2010 12:50 pm

I never noticed until, but you use "territories" in the legend. You could use "regions" --- Official CC lingo. It'd make some areas easier to read, because of its reduced length. And it'd be consistent, since you use Assault, Bombardment, etc.


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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Done

Postby cairnswk on Sat May 22, 2010 2:46 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I never noticed until, but you use "territories" in the legend. You could use "regions" --- Official CC lingo. It'd make some areas easier to read, because of its reduced length. And it'd be consistent, since you use Assault, Bombardment, etc.


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Thanks for dropping in Andy, but i don't understand what you're saying here. This one has never come up before. Since when was a territory regarded officially as a "region". Also "territories" is still in use in the xml as an official tag.... ;)
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Done

Postby natty dread on Sat May 22, 2010 2:57 pm

cairnswk wrote:Since when was a territory regarded officially as a "region".


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Team 1:
r:darth emperor 4.8 19 32 17
g:natty_dread 4.8 14 57 11
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Done

Postby cairnswk on Sat May 22, 2010 3:33 pm

natty_dread wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Since when was a territory regarded officially as a "region".


Statistics
Player Regions Troops Troops Due
Team 1:
r:darth emperor 4.8 19 32 17
g:natty_dread 4.8 14 57 11


Oh that....well to me they're one in the same thing.
Does that mean we have to change all the existing maps that mention "territories".
Also appears lackattack hasn't kept pace with his own stats board with the xml.
As i said, <territory> is still the official tag in the xml...that's what i'm going by.
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Done

Postby natty dread on Sat May 22, 2010 3:42 pm

cairnswk wrote:Oh that....well to me they're one in the same thing.
Does that mean we have to change all the existing maps that mention "territories".
Also appears lackattack hasn't kept pace with his own stats board with the xml.
As i said, <territory> is still the official tag in the xml...that's what i'm going by.


Well the XML also says "continents" but nobody uses "continents" in maps... The XML tags are only inner elements, they don't show up in the actual game. However when your turn begins the game log says:

cairnswk received 3 troops for 8 regions


That being said... I actually agree with you, if you want to call them territories I don't see a huge problem with doing so. There's no real consistency in what different maps call things anyway. Sometimes the game terms are twisted to fit the theme of the map. For example in a world map it makes sense to call the bonus zones "continents" but in a map of a single country it doesn't make much sense to do so...
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Done

Postby cairnswk on Sat May 22, 2010 4:08 pm

cairnswk wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
cairnswk wrote::Since when was a territory regarded officially as a "region".


Statistics
Player Regions Troops Troops Due
Team 1:
r:darth emperor 4.8 19 32 17
g:natty_dread 4.8 14 57 11 {/quote]


Oh that....well to me they're one in the same thing.
Does that mean we have to change all the existing maps that mention "territories".
Also appears lackattack hasn't kept pace with his own stats board with the xml.
As i said, <territory> is still the official tag in the xml...that's what i'm going by.

But please refresh, i have changed the "territories" on the map to "regions"
to keep the peace.

http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/_stalingrad_220510.xml

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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Done

Postby cairnswk on Sat May 22, 2010 6:32 pm

XML and centering Complete...putting up in Official XML checker
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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Checked

Postby cairnswk on Sun May 23, 2010 3:08 pm

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Re: WWII-Stalingrad [D,GP,GR] V36 (P40) XML Checked

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon May 24, 2010 11:01 am

Was just a suggestion to keep your lingo consistent across the board, as you have a mix between official and unofficial. :)


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