Top 5 Generals in the world. (Past of Present)

RenegadePaddy · Post by **RenegadePaddy** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:25 pm

True, but I meant the resistance fighters

Kahless · Post by **Kahless** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:34 pm

johnnyrotten wrote:
Kahless wrote:Surprised to see no mention of Cromwell yet, took on the crown and won
I always thought Cromwell was a complete prick though

He was a good military leader, had a great idea of common people rising against the crown and divine rule. He was a prick enforcing his religous puritanism on people, and with his disregard for my country, he had some crazy ideas about the Irish and catholics. I hate him for the massacres in Ireland, but at the same time, I can't help respecting him in other ways.

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:49 pm

Muhammad the Prophet was a good general.
So was Andrew Jackson in the Battle of New Orleans (there's some facts and figures about it in the thread "dont visit this thread")

Incandenza · Post by **Incandenza** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:56 pm

RenegadePaddy wrote:Saladin
Robert E. Lee
Rommel
Lord Malborough
Suz-tzu

4 out of 5 for me.... Instead of Sun-tzu (or, as they call him on the Sopranos, 'Sun tuh-zoo'), who I'd consider more of a theorist than a general (much like someone like Clauswitz), I'd have to go with Wellington. Or maybe Genghis Khan...

I'm kinda surprised that Saladin isn't getting more love in this thread.

DIRESTRAITS · Post by **DIRESTRAITS** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:06 pm

I'm suprised no one has brought up Winfield Scott. Wellington called him the greatest soldier alive at the time, and he single handedly won two wars for America.

In no particular order

Winfield Scott
Sherman
Hannibal
Napoleon
Saladin

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:16 pm

Eisenhower

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:10 pm

Stonewall Jackson?

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:16 pm

Julius Caesar
Napoleon
Robert E. Lee
and of course the #1 and #2 ranked people in conquerclub.

for dummies · Post by **for dummies** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:17 pm

Eisenhower
Ulysses Grant
Napolean
Genghis Khan
Robert E. Lee

DeCaptain · Post by **DeCaptain** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:27 pm

im not gonna think of 5 of them..but id have to say alexander the great would have to be either 1 or 2.

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:34 am

1) Napoleon (a master strategist that could beat armies of vastly greater size)

2) Wellington (a genius for terrain and position - memorised the layout of Waterloo when he visited it years before)

3) Julius Caesar (A master of "divide and rule" balanced politics and armed power in a way no modern general could)

4) Mao Zedong (pulled off the impossible victory in capturing control of China - when vastly outnumbered out gunned and supplied)

And controversially:
5) Ernesto "Che" Guevara (never strictly a General - highest rank probably is closest to Major, but a master of Guerilla warfare and small scale tactics)

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:01 pm

Ruben's list is a strong one, but yeh you can't ignore Ceaser. Also, although Alexander the Great was a fine general his father Philip of Macedon was perhaps equally so. Genghis Khan is another fine candidate, as is Saladin.

perchorin · Post by **perchorin** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:09 pm

just to throw a name into the mix (do admirals count?) Yi Sunsin was the Korean naval leader who more or less invented the first armored warships and "is reputed to be one of the few admirals to have been victorious in every naval battle (at least 23) that he commanded"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Sun-shin

Sackett58 · Post by **Sackett58** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:32 pm

1. General Patton

2. General Longstreet

3. Brig General McAuliffe (in charge of Bastogne)

4. Admiral Yamamoto

5. Rommel

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:09 pm

johnnyrotten wrote:Georgy Zhukov
Erwin Rommel
Bernard Montgomery
Douglas Haig
Hannibal

In no particular order.

I think you'll find Hannibal only achieved the rank of colonel before he was imprisoned.

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:19 pm

1. Napolean
2. Alexander the Great
3. Saladin
4. Robert E. Lee
5. George Washington

jonnybgood · Post by **jonnybgood** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:19 pm

er scratch washinton and put ceasar in.......brain lapse

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:01 pm

jonnybgood wrote:er scratch washinton and put ceasar in.......brain lapse

That's Caesar please!

Warrior987 · Post by **Warrior987** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:02 pm

1. Alexander

2. Saladin

3.Bonaparte

4.Hannibal

5.Grant

hecter · Post by **hecter** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:06 pm

I don't even think I know the names of five generals

s.xkitten · Post by **s.xkitten** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:52 pm

hecter wrote:I don't even think I know the names of five generals

what about spamming generals?

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:13 am

Thats difficult...

But Im a great fan of Alexander the Great, and the way he was directly involved in the battles, being wounded several times... To me hes the #1.
Then Julius Caesar, that man could defeat everyone! #2 to him
Napolean during the initial stages of French rev was also incredible. #3
I think this ranking would be completed by Scipio and Rommel.

I know, not really a general, but a great strategist... I need admit Im also a fan of Otto von Bismarck. Much smarter than Churchill, in my opinion.

Well, worlds best general can be difficult... but Brazilian best general is not... If someone is curious enough, here is the link about Duke of Caxias:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lu%C3%ADs_ ... ma_e_Silva

In fact, I would appreciate if you guys could also name the greatest general of your home countries. That could be interesting.

Hologram · Post by **Hologram** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:14 am

I'm not even going to try to put them in any order.

Alexander the Great
William Tecumseh Sherman
Robert E. Lee
Ulysses S. Grant
Napolean Bonaparte

Hologram · Post by **Hologram** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:17 am

johnnyrotten wrote:
Kahless wrote:Surprised to see no mention of Cromwell yet, took on the crown and won
I always thought Cromwell was a complete prick though

I don't know about that, but MacArthur was for sure. At least in his whole affair with Australia.

Hologram · Post by **Hologram** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:20 am

reverend_kyle wrote:Eisenhower

Eisenhower was an idiot. He stopped the entire armoured corps in the western front just so the infantry could catch up. Only thing is that when the offensive stopped, Germany regrouped and conducted a major, almost succesful, counter-attack near Bastogne, Germany. Now before you go off and call generals great merely because they were in charge of an entire army, think of their strategic conduct.