MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:22 am

So as I said, I may not be have access to a computer during the next night, and yet everyone is postponing their voting once again. It seems like no one in this game ever wants to participate.

"ohhhh, but there are SO many players, I can't figure it out" or "There is just too much to read, I can't keep up!"

Well, we only have 13 people left, and there have only been a couple of pages for the last few days. I think its time for EVERYONE to catch up and start playing!

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:29 am

Poor Houssam was on a slow boat to China.

Just so happens alot of people are travelling. Don't worry. I'm back now and will not let the thread die, or go with a forced no lynch again... although I think we learned something from even that. Where's my electric cattle prod?

I'm agreeing Huge looks scummy, so Vote Hugenutts (or however you spell that!). I'll be curious to see who doesn't vote again this time.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:58 pm

This was falling closer toward the bottom.

Anyways, nice to hear from some of the others now. As you noticed, I (and pretty much everyone else throughout the thread) asked Hugue to post more...and then he doesn't. Hm.

Also, Nyvek, your post about VGM is interesting, especially the Marv part, as I remembered that...and I still don't trust Marv.

--Andy

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:06 pm

I'm going to go ahead and vote hugonots

For someone that volunteered to play for someone he has done nothing to even try to help the town.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:09 pm

OMG Moz voted!

Well it looks like the SK SamJam was the day killer, since there's been no day kill today. Thanks again mafia dude(s)!

Nyvek · Post by **Nyvek** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:26 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:This was falling closer toward the bottom.

Anyways, nice to hear from some of the others now. As you noticed, I (and pretty much everyone else throughout the thread) asked Hugue to post more...and then he doesn't. Hm.

Also, Nyvek, your post about VGM is interesting, especially the Marv part, as I remembered that...and I still don't trust Marv.

One of the things I'm concerned with is VGM's voting philosophy. When it came to Puff, Red Bull, Fircoal, and Trestain, (Claimed Doc, Cop, "important role", and Psychiatrist), he's willing to lynch them to determine the validity of their claims. Marv made no power role claim, but VGM says

vgmmaster wrote:Concerning Marv, I see it this way. If he is mafia, he can't hurt us because he isn't here. Due to that one reason alone, I believe we should keep him around for a while.

Bolding by Nyvek.

Not to be crass, but WTF kind of strategy is that? If he’s Mafia, he needs to be hanging now.

I couldn’t find much on Marv at the moment; else I would have posted it. If anyone is curious why I’m voting Hugu and quoting VGM, I currently don’t subscribe to the 1 mafia left theory. I feel there could easily be 3 left.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:30 pm

Wow Nyvek, I didn't notice that before but that is an excellent case you just made. Who would be willing to lynch potential power roles to find out if they are lying, yet unwilling to lynch a guy who never claimed? Scum, thats who!

However the huguenots case turns out, I am suddenly in strong favor of lynching vgmmaster in the future. That is an extremely incriminating voting pattern. And if he turns out to be mafia then it looks like Marv is as well.

I definitely think we need to stick with hugue today, but I am glad to see that insight on your part.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:32 pm

wow Nyvek.... interesting find indeed. what say ye VGM??

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:01 pm

Even I think VGM is acting strangely, but you can be sure, he is NOT connected to me. I want remember you that Andy was ready to create a lynch mob against me, but not only him, also more people said that wouldnt be good do that without a chance of defense... If I remember well, even Andy agreed to that.

Anyway, lynching people that claimed for power roles is not a good tactic... (But seriously, the way red bull claimed to be a cop was so stupid that seemed mafia, I admit.) So, yeah, I dont trust him, and I could vote to him without a doubt, even knowing that I would possibly be the next one if hes mafia.

But, I want to point that sully is acting the same way he acted in the game we were mafia together... he is not accusing anyone, he just waits for peoples theories, and then say "what a good point". But, is never being offensive.

About Andy, you are begginning to annoy me... What the hell you have against me? STILL the shit about me connected to autoload? If you have any proof to accuse me, please share with us all. And, Im not sure if that message calling you a mayor was really a tip from Master Bush... In fact, whats a mayor? Its not clear to me... And considering the pointless accusations against me, I think people are trusting you too much, friend... In fact, you seem connected to sully, and I dont think that initials trick is anything but a... trick.

In fact, I shared my thoughts, and no one but sully did the same. Can you please?

And dussle, stop being a submarine, start to share your opinions, too.

But I dont want another no lynch.
vote Huguenots

PS: I still dont trust trestain, too.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:15 pm

As I already said, I pointed out things I saw, regarding you, Marv. And as I said earlier, I think I've proven myself to be a townie, by outside forces.

And I'm always wary of Sully and Wicked (and maybe Moz), mostly because I've seen how they can play, and trick people, but you, houssam, hugue, maybe trestain...I've got strong feelings about for now.

It'll be interesting to see who dies during these next nights, as I think we will be down to strategic killings soon, due to the smaller, and closer knit group...or at least I think the killings will be less random.

--Andy

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:10 pm

During the day, Fircoal, (Protown -- Quack) mysteriously is found dead.

Continue with the DAY!

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:11 pm

Vote Count

[7] Huguenots -- (AndyDufresne, Nyvek, Senfive, sully800, wicked, moz976, Marvaddin)
[1] trestain -- (vgmmaster)
[5] Not Voting, Everyone Else

7 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Day Deadline: 05 March 2007 8:21 PM GMT.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:13 pm

uhh, can we still talk?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:16 pm

IC didn't say continue day, and hasn't locked thread...

soooo...

what's a quack?

and

guess there's either still a day killer or perhaps something got unlocked?

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:17 pm

Hm, interesting to note then...if there was protection going on by fircoal...it really wasn't working. Hm, the mafia might have made it look like the doctors were keeping specific people safe, but perhaps, that wasn't the case...

--Andy

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:22 pm

how would the mafia know though? they wouldn't know our docs and cops were useless. I'm assuming quack can't actually protect. They probably just assumed who was protected and picked other unprotecteds.

All these useless roles... makes you wonder... Seems now Sully is most likely a real doc. But what's the difference between quack and insane doc?? Interesting that Rojo wasn't told Fircoal was a quack?

Master Bush (Protown -- Day Cop)
Machiavelli (Protown -- Cop)

Puff (Protown -- Insane Doctor)
Fircoal (Protown -- Quack Doc)
red bull (Protown -- Naive Cop)

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:28 pm

It could be redbull wasn't told the real 'rest of the role' because he was naive. All he could figure out was perhaps 'parts'.

It does seem like sully is a doc then, but a mafia, like I said before, can easily claim doc as they essentially have the power to 'choose' not to kill a particular someone, thus saving them.

Hm...regarding insane vs quack... Quack would be able to 'protect' but the protection wouldn't mean anything, because they don't know anything about medicine. Insane, perhaps means, they have a chance to protect, or a chance to harm the person they are wanting to protect. I'm not sure.

--Andy

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:46 pm

Well damn, there goes one more confirmed townie. Its not as bad as it could have been since he was a quack, but he was still a voice I could trust and a vote I had confidence in.

Anyway, I hope that at least confirms to most people that I am a doctor. Unless of course someone else is going to claim the role as well? Do we have a 4th?

I'm guessing that AK is working on the write up for the lynch seen since we reached 5 votes, and this is once again a twilight period. Does anyone have any last words before it turns to night?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:48 pm

sully800 wrote:I'm guessing that AK is working on the write up for the lynch seen since we reached 5 votes

more notes to yourself?

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:54 pm

Lets take a look at the dead roles thus far:

supercram (Mafia -- Cop)
**(?)**XenHu (Instigator)
Master Bush (Protown -- Day Cop)
spiesr (Mafia)
dcowboys055 (Protown -- "Vanilla Mutant")
Puff (Protown -- Insane Doctor)
Kernal_Kronic (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")
Machiavelli (Protown -- Cop)
**(?)**autoload (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")
reverend_kyle (Mafia -- Godfather)
red bull (Protown -- Naive Cop)
sam jam (Serial Killer)
Fircoal (Protown -- Quack)

Regarding the Bolded in Black, they are the 'sure roles'...ones we have prior knowledge about.

Now, Mach said he could talk to Autoload...but it doesn't show up that Autoload is a Two Face or anything of the kind. So this is a head scratcher. One I fear...what if Mach had some horrible role that made him appear like a Protown Cop when he died, or if he sacrificed another mafia member? We don't know if the SK got autoload, or it was a event, or what. Hm, I don't know...anyways.

As for Xenhu, we don't know if he had a role to 'start' something, a lynch...etc...it could be a role, I'm not sure, hence the reason he is in the same state that Autoload is in.

Regarding the Black Bold...there are 8 roles. Quick math... 32% power roles if it was just them. Add me as a Mayor, you get 36%. Add sully as a doc you get 40%. Add either Autoload or Xenhu or Trestain (he claimed psych.) you get 44%. Add two you get 48% of the people in the town with power roles, and if you add three 52%. Yowza... how many roles do we really have?

I'm not sure what all this means, but...there seem to be a hell of a lot of roles.

--Andy

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:54 pm

Now here is the really crazy thing about this game so far. The night kills have pretty much been doing all the work for us, the town lynchings have been decent but a bit neutral. And the day killings have been a slaughterfest for the town. Forgive any mistakes from this list because I did it by memory. I'm trying to get it up before night falls (watch for wicked to highlight that quote)

Night Killed
Master Bush (Protown -- Day Cop)
spiesr (Mafia)
Kernal_Kronic (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")
sam jam (Serial Killer)

Lynched
dcowboys055 (Protown -- "Vanilla Mutant")
reverend_kyle (Mafia -- Godfather)
XenHu (Instigator)

Day Killed
supercram (Mafia -- Cop)
Puff (Protown -- Insane Doctor)
Machiavelli (Protown -- Cop)
autoload (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")
red bull (Protown -- Naive Cop)
Fircoal (Protown -- Quack)

Supercram was killed during the day, but that was because the day killer had little to go on I assume. Other than that, every day kill has been a claimed power role (autoload only went down because he was attached to mach).

That worries me because we have no protection during the day so I will most likely die tomorrow. Thankfully whoever is killing at night has only hit one townie!

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:57 pm

wicked wrote:
sully800 wrote:I'm guessing that AK is working on the write up for the lynch seen since we reached 5 votes
more notes to yourself?

gahhh, I should read what I write! That should be '7 votes', of course.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:58 pm

Andy, you're not taking into account three of those "power" roles really had no power.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:59 pm

I'm speaking in the terms of roles...I consider all 'powerful' as they have some degree of power (power of truth, confusion, etc)

--Andy

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:02 pm

sully800 wrote:we have no protection during the day

Looking over the roles, MB was listed as a day cop. I remember wondering before if there were other roles associated with "day" or "night". Perhaps a day doc?? Sully is your role day or night specific???