BOB/CM improvements

[sherkaner]

I'm trying to get some more experience with javascript, and improving either BOB or CM is a good way to improve that. But it seems that I get distracted with other things every time I try to improve something.
So I'd like to know what other people would like me to focus on. The poll below should give me a sense of direction.

I think combining BOB and CM would be a mistake at the moment, if only because of all the speed addicts. But there is a certain overlap which would make it pretty easy.
The replace number on the map is something that seems to be a bit strange, but it would allow me to really change a player's color, or change the font or size of the numbers if needed so this could be a real improvement. And it would mean that BOB doesn't have to save the whole image with the numbers any more in the snapshot, which would make exchanging them easier, and in case of a redesign of a map the old snapshot would probably still be valid. This will be the hardest option to implement though.

If you have any other options, just let me know.

[Dako]

BOB: Make snapshots exchangable
Yes, I would love that! I have PC at home and at work - the problems come at weekends because I don't have my snapshots from the previous week. A disaster indeed :-).

BOB: Create a way to 'replay' a game
Have thought about that myself. Really nice option to show how you've won some awesome game when you were at 2 territories only.

Pretty useless, but it will improve the coding level for sure.

[sherkaner]

Because I asked the question, I should get back at it eventually. There weren't too many votes, so I decided most people don't care about new options. And I picked making CM work in Chrome as the best option for now, it improves the code of CM a bit, I can learn some new tricks from it and I just found a way to get started.

Currently it gives no more direct errors and some things are working, so I'll have to find out why the others aren't working.

[chipv]

I think people are meaning to say "Great Job" which I agree with.

[Army of GOD]

BOB: Create a way to 'replay' a game
Have thought about that myself. Really nice option to show how you've won some awesome game when you were at 2 territories only.

Pretty useless, but it will improve the coding level for sure.

That'd be cool.

[sherkaner]

Thanks for the extra votes, it gives me a sense of direction. For the record, I had a very rudimentary version working of the playback-function, but it needs quite some work to have some value. I chose 1 attack per 0.3 second to be displayed, but some games still took very long, and you couldn't really notice the attacks fast enough. So I have to come up with some way of controlling that.

Currently it gives no more direct errors and some things are working, so I'll have to find out why the others aren't working.

Btw, if anyone is willing to test: http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/72599.user.js is the current script for both firefox and Chrome, but there could still be some bugs. What doesn't work: confirmations and updating (updating is uninstall/reinstall for now). And there could be some other effects, though just clicking seems to work (I used it a few turns, until I really missed BOB..).

[Dako]

One more option just came into my mind.

"Show initial map disposition". Should be useful at fog games with conquest type (or huge amount of coded neutrals). For example, you are playing feudal and pretty much pinpointed enemies location, but you do not know how many neutrals are between you (or could be, at least). This feature just shows the default coded neutral disposition on the map as if the game was sunny for a moment (of course, you can't see enemy anyway - but this way you know how many troops you need to pass). Also, all your allies troops overwrite "default neutrals".

How is that?

[sherkaner]

One more option just came into my mind.

"Show initial map disposition". Should be useful at fog games with conquest type (or huge amount of coded neutrals). For example, you are playing feudal and pretty much pinpointed enemies location, but you do not know how many neutrals are between you (or could be, at least). This feature just shows the default coded neutral disposition on the map as if the game was sunny for a moment (of course, you can't see enemy anyway - but this way you know how many troops you need to pass). Also, all your allies troops overwrite "default neutrals".

How is that?

That's actually the original reason for option 3. There is a chance the map xml has changed since the game started, then it would give the wrong numbers. But if that is accepted and I have a way to do option 3, this is quite easy.

[yeti_c]

Yeah - the reason I did the code for 3 to grab the images of the army numbers - is because you cannot create the numbers with HTML/Javascript alone (All to do with the black stroke) - so the numbers don't look nearly so nice... as you well know - we already store the armies array anyways - so if you *could* do away with the image save then you'd be saving a lot of effort...

Ideally what would be best if Lack provided a way of making an armies image with your own numbers... (This could also be used by the mapmaking tools as well)

C.

[sherkaner]

Main problem is that I can't get it to look exactly like CC's numbers at the moment.

[chipv]

Main problem is that I can't get it to look exactly like CC's numbers at the moment.

Ok you can use my generator. The XML Wizard generates exact CC looking numbers because it uses the same php
as CC to draw them (lack gave me the font code).

At the moment you can ask it for individual numbers and colour but I could also do a single overlay like CC does if you want.

Catch me on MSN.

[Chuuuuck]

I think I am late joining this conversation but I think the most useful would be to make snapshots exchangeable. That would be incredible for me and many others I know.

Thanks for all of your hard work.

[clapper011]

the newest bob update not working... I click it and nothing happens..

[TeeGee]

the newest bob update not working... I click it and nothing happens..

i had to install it twice to make it work.. don't know why it didnt take the 1st time

[clapper011]

the newest bob update not working... I click it and nothing happens..

i had to install it twice to make it work.. don't know why it didnt take the 1st time

I keep clicking on where it says update.. but nothing happens.. just the window like it always does but its blank and disappears right away!

[clapper011]

the newest bob update not working... I click it and nothing happens..

i had to install it twice to make it work.. don't know why it didnt take the 1st time

I keep clicking on where it says update.. but nothing happens.. just the window like it always does but its blank and disappears right away!

fixed! thanks ender516!

[Prow]

clapper, could you help others to solve this problem..?

[clapper011]

To know if you have an out-of-date BOB, ook at your BOB Menu. If the last item is blinking and says Update Available, then click it. The latest version available is 4.10.6, which you should be able to see in small print beside the BOB Menu title. (That's also a clicky which takes you to the main BOB forum topic mentioned above.)

BOB updates have been having minor problems lately, so if it doesn't seem to install, then try this link: http://www.mdn.fm/files/93673_idgpq/con ... ob.user.js.

Other quick fixes can include refreshing the page with F5, or with control-F5 (which, I believe, defeats cached information so old stuff gets swept out of the way), or disabling and reenabling BOB or all of GreaseMonkey (right-click the GreaseMonkey icon at the bottom right of your screen and click the appropriate menu item(s) to set and clear the checkmarks).

all right here

[Prow]

Thanks!

[Prow]

Well, it works only once..and after any refresh the problem is still there..

[sherkaner]

Check the main BOB-thread: viewtopic.php?f=527&p=2571872#p2571872
http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/52341.user.js should work now, afterwards it should be normal again.

[White Moose]

Clickable Maps Improvment

Remove the box which comes up when you try to attack a territory which you can't attack from the position you have marked.

It's seriously annoying if you happen to missclick in a speed game. Even though it doesnt happen so often.

[Dako]

BOB idea.

Move objective summary right below the map or to the side bar (make it an option?). Right now it is hard to find what terrs are to win the game. For example, on Das Schloss map I still don't know what I need to hold for the win lol. It is so hard to find them without map inspect.

What do you think?

[sherkaner]

I tend to have the continents on the side, maybe I could somehow merge it with that. I should already kill the display of continents without bonus anyway, that should create some room on a few maps.

[Dako]

I have continents on the side as well. Maybe show them one after another? Killing no-bonus continents is a good idea - but sometimes I use that to see who is close to a bonus (on Supermax it is very handy). So maybe it should be an option, again (option for continent view?).