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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby TheForgivenOne on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:58 am

KraphtOne wrote:
nippersean wrote:Re autostarting turn.
The available scripts will only start the turn, they cannot deploy.
You need to have that game open - you could not set up autostart for multiple games.


Not true, and not true...

not only can you have a bot take an entire turn for you... but you can set it up to rotate between tabs so that if any of the tabs are prompted that the round has started then it will perform the task you set up...

lucky for CC 99% of the people on here aren't intelligent or patient enough to figure it out...


Well wouldn't that be fun if 99% off CC users just had a bot to take their turns
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby drunkmonkey on Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:26 am

KraphtOne wrote:
nippersean wrote:Re autostarting turn.
The available scripts will only start the turn, they cannot deploy.
You need to have that game open - you could not set up autostart for multiple games.


Not true, and not true...

not only can you have a bot take an entire turn for you... but you can set it up to rotate between tabs so that if any of the tabs are prompted that the round has started then it will perform the task you set up...

lucky for CC 99% of the people on here aren't intelligent or patient enough to figure it out...


I don't think intelligence or patience has anything to do with it. Why pay $25 to have a program play games for you? People like aalmeida, who sign up just to get a high winning pct, even if it means not being at the computer when it happens...I don't get it.

On another note, is it normal for no moderators to make a comment in a 6-page abuse report? Even if it was just a "yes, this is against the rules" or "no, nothing's wrong with this", I'd love some kind of feedback.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Queen_Herpes on Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:17 am

So, are BOTS LEGAL?????
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Snowgun on Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:50 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:So, are BOTS LEGAL?????


Only in Japan. But you don't have to tip them.

There is no advantage that I can think of to have a bot play sequential, (other than covering your turn while you are away). So again this is delegated to the freestyle realm. So the 90% of cc that doens't play it doesn't care.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Queen_Herpes on Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:56 pm

Snowgun wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:So, are BOTS LEGAL?????


Only in Japan. But you don't have to tip them.

There is no advantage that I can think of to have a bot play sequential, (other than covering your turn while you are away). So again this is delegated to the freestyle realm. So the 90% of cc that doens't play it doesn't care.


That still hasn't answered the question. I didn't miss your sarcasm with the first sentence. Clearly there is no benefit in sequential, and the greatest benefit probably lies in speed freestyle. Probably an additional benefit to farmers: they don't miss their turns while their victims perchance miss turns.

Essentially, I return to my question: Is this a legally accepted script?
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Snowgun on Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:13 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:
I didn't miss your sarcasm with the first sentence.


I was going for dry humor, but apparently I gotta practice more.

Queen_Herpes wrote:Essentially, I return to my question: Is this a legally accepted script?


HA! Does CC have a choice? They can't enforce it anyway. So they will scowl at it and then try to make the topic go away, because they last thing they need is 2 billion C&A complaints that so and so won because he is a "script kiddy" and "he uzed botz".

Again, the nice part is that the infection is quarantined to the freestyle realm where all the dirty point whores live. :lol:
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:11 am

Snowgun wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
I didn't miss your sarcasm with the first sentence.


I was going for dry humor, but apparently I gotta practice more.

Queen_Herpes wrote:Essentially, I return to my question: Is this a legally accepted script?


HA! Does CC have a choice? They can't enforce it anyway. So they will scowl at it and then try to make the topic go away, because they last thing they need is 2 billion C&A complaints that so and so won because he is a "script kiddy" and "he uzed botz".

Again, the nice part is that the infection is quarantined to the freestyle realm where all the dirty point whores live. :lol:



You are sooo far off base about what freestyle is all about.. Just because 1 or 2 people abuse it does not make it the norm for all of us.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby jricart on Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:52 am

Dont you guys think its time to kick this guy out of CC?

He cheat, farm, use vulgar language, dont have any respect to other players, etc., etc, etc.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Snowgun on Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:59 am

Bruceswar wrote:You are sooo far off base about what freestyle is all about.. Just because 1 or 2 people abuse it does not make it the norm for all of us.


lol, No more like 20% use freestyle to ill gotten gains. And the point is that you should pay if you wanna play. Deal with the issues without crying to momma. Nobody cares what happens in freestyle land.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:21 am

Snowgun wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:You are sooo far off base about what freestyle is all about.. Just because 1 or 2 people abuse it does not make it the norm for all of us.


lol, No more like 20% use freestyle to ill gotten gains. And the point is that you should pay if you wanna play. Deal with the issues without crying to momma. Nobody cares what happens in freestyle land.


OK, since it appears to be legal, where can I get the bot script?
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:29 am

Queen_Herpes wrote:
Snowgun wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:You are sooo far off base about what freestyle is all about.. Just because 1 or 2 people abuse it does not make it the norm for all of us.


lol, No more like 20% use freestyle to ill gotten gains. And the point is that you should pay if you wanna play. Deal with the issues without crying to momma. Nobody cares what happens in freestyle land.


OK, since it appears to be legal, where can I get the bot script?



It is not legal and never has been.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby ljex on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:34 am

Queen_Herpes wrote:
Snowgun wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:So, are BOTS LEGAL?????


Only in Japan. But you don't have to tip them.

There is no advantage that I can think of to have a bot play sequential, (other than covering your turn while you are away). So again this is delegated to the freestyle realm. So the 90% of cc that doens't play it doesn't care.


That still hasn't answered the question. I didn't miss your sarcasm with the first sentence. Clearly there is no benefit in sequential, and the greatest benefit probably lies in speed freestyle. Probably an additional benefit to farmers: they don't miss their turns while their victims perchance miss turns.

Essentially, I return to my question: Is this a legally accepted script?


The greatest benefit dose not lie in speed freestyle at all because you can be sitting at the comupter and know you only have to wait a maximum of 2.5 min so you can just press b if you have clickable maps, thus getting the advantage of going second and not giving the opponent a chance to break any bonuses you have acquired. However in 24 hour games this would provide a huge advantage as you can check in once every 45min and your turn will be started for you so you dont let them break any of your bonuses that you got from going last and you don't have be there waiting for them.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby drunkmonkey on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:36 am

Bruceswar wrote:It is not legal and never has been.


I haven't seen a moderator say it's illegal. Maybe I'll start promoting it in the Strategy forum. Would that get anyone's attention?
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:42 am

drunkmonkey wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:It is not legal and never has been.


I haven't seen a moderator say it's illegal. Maybe I'll start promoting it in the Strategy forum. Would that get anyone's attention?



Let me quote sully.... 1 sec while I find it.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:45 am

sully800 wrote:Enterprise, we don't think that this script is a good idea for the site. I would suggest not continuing to work on it because it creates a big disadvantage for the casual gamer (the kind of person this site is geared toward). I am personally pretty impressed with the power of your script and your intuition to see the need and how to make it work, but unfortunately it is not something that can be used on CC.

Based on your original question, I think you were checking if this type of script would be allowed, so I'm sorry to say that it isn't. I know you may receive pressure from some people to continue working on the script and distribute it secretly, but don't give in to that. If the script continues to be used a delay will just be added into the game engine to slow automated turns down to human speed, which will make the time spent on this script a waste. Sorry to give you the bad news, but maybe you can go through the suggestions board and try to make a script that meets some other need on the site!



Sully800 said it best - Mothballed
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:30 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
Snowgun wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:You are sooo far off base about what freestyle is all about.. Just because 1 or 2 people abuse it does not make it the norm for all of us.


lol, No more like 20% use freestyle to ill gotten gains. And the point is that you should pay if you wanna play. Deal with the issues without crying to momma. Nobody cares what happens in freestyle land.


OK, since it appears to be legal, where can I get the bot script?



It is not legal and never has been.



Thank you for answering my question! Also thank you for the quote of Sully's. Where did that quote come from?
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby the.killing.44 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:53 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
Snowgun wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:You are sooo far off base about what freestyle is all about.. Just because 1 or 2 people abuse it does not make it the norm for all of us.


lol, No more like 20% use freestyle to ill gotten gains. And the point is that you should pay if you wanna play. Deal with the issues without crying to momma. Nobody cares what happens in freestyle land.


OK, since it appears to be legal, where can I get the bot script?



It is not legal and never has been.



Thank you for answering my question! Also thank you for the quote of Sully's. Where did that quote come from?

Only from Japan. But you don't have to tip him.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby yazoochick on Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:33 pm

I just had a few tournament games with Aalmeida17, and I saw no evidence of scripts being used.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby fumandomuerte on Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:58 pm

yazoochick wrote:I just had a few tournament games with Aalmeida17, and I saw no evidence of scripts being used.


Sequential games, no need of bots.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:06 pm

Queen_Herpes wrote:Thank you for answering my question! Also thank you for the quote of Sully's. Where did that quote come from?



Comes from a thread about the warp script in GD. I would have to look it up again.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby Evil Semp on Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:14 am

This accusation is based on the fact that Aalmeida17 starts his turns so quickly. As was stated wouldn't putting a weight on start the turn at the exact same time? That happened twice and not two turns in a row. He had four turns in a row where his turns started 1,0,1 and 0 seconds after yours, there were also three turns where he started 6 seconds later. One turn he started his turn and didn't make any moves for about 30minutes. I know that some freestyle players do this as part of their stratagy.

It looks to me that he is very dedicated to playing his games. I don't see any proof that he is using a script.

Without any proof I have to say Aslmeida17 is CLEARED of any wrongdoing.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby alster on Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:57 am

Evil Semp wrote:This accusation is based on the fact that Aalmeida17 starts his turns so quickly. As was stated wouldn't putting a weight on start the turn at the exact same time? That happened twice and not two turns in a row. He had four turns in a row where his turns started 1,0,1 and 0 seconds after yours, there were also three turns where he started 6 seconds later. One turn he started his turn and didn't make any moves for about 30minutes. I know that some freestyle players do this as part of their stratagy.

It looks to me that he is very dedicated to playing his games. I don't see any proof that he is using a script.

Without any proof I have to say Aslmeida17 is CLEARED of any wrongdoing.


Of course putting a weight on the keyboard don't cause one's turn to start at the same time. Jez... Further, Aalmeida17 states, as his defense, that this was what he did (no one would confess to using a script if that would be the case). At least your assessment should be based on this fact (and not on the lack of proof re scripts). Aalmeida17 also had a round where he didn't move for 60 minutes, then began his turn immediatly following his opponent opening up next round. This is obviously not a tactic, it just shows that Aalmeida17 at least used a low-tech auto started (i.e. a weight on the key board).

Go back and make a correct assessment / mod statement to this C&A report.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby jefjef on Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:23 pm

alstergren wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:This accusation is based on the fact that Aalmeida17 starts his turns so quickly. As was stated wouldn't putting a weight on start the turn at the exact same time? That happened twice and not two turns in a row. He had four turns in a row where his turns started 1,0,1 and 0 seconds after yours, there were also three turns where he started 6 seconds later. One turn he started his turn and didn't make any moves for about 30minutes. I know that some freestyle players do this as part of their stratagy.

It looks to me that he is very dedicated to playing his games. I don't see any proof that he is using a script.

Without any proof I have to say Aslmeida17 is CLEARED of any wrongdoing.


Of course putting a weight on the keyboard don't cause one's turn to start at the same time. Jez... Further, Aalmeida17 states, as his defense, that this was what he did (no one would confess to using a script if that would be the case). At least your assessment should be based on this fact (and not on the lack of proof re scripts). Aalmeida17 also had a round where he didn't move for 60 minutes, then began his turn immediatly following his opponent opening up next round. This is obviously not a tactic, it just shows that Aalmeida17 at least used a low-tech auto started (i.e. a weight on the key board).

Go back and make a correct assessment / mod statement to this C&A report.


Perhaps what has been decided was that it is fine to mechanically begin your turns. You just cant use a program to do it.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer

Postby drunkmonkey on Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:43 pm

Evil Semp wrote:This accusation is based on the fact that Aalmeida17 starts his turns so quickly. As was stated wouldn't putting a weight on start the turn at the exact same time? That happened twice and not two turns in a row. He had four turns in a row where his turns started 1,0,1 and 0 seconds after yours, there were also three turns where he started 6 seconds later. One turn he started his turn and didn't make any moves for about 30minutes. I know that some freestyle players do this as part of their stratagy.

It looks to me that he is very dedicated to playing his games. I don't see any proof that he is using a script.

Without any proof I have to say Aslmeida17 is CLEARED of any wrongdoing.


Aalmeida17 admitted to using a weight. The 6 second turns were legit. The 1,0,1,0 were weighted per his own admission. No freestyle player starts their turn 0 or 1 second later, and then runs out of time before deploying, only to start 1 second after my turn again. If you're saying this is a legal tactic, that's fine, and I'll be glad to promote it in the Strategy forum. But it seems you only read one or two posts in this thread, and made your decision based on that. Thanks for your time. :roll:

Also, a 1 second difference could mean I started my turn at 08:00:009 and his started at 08:00:011.
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Re: Aalmeida17 - auto-typer [cleared]es

Postby Evil Semp on Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:38 pm

No matter what decision was made someone would think it was wrong. If I did agree with you would you have accused me of not reading the thread? Well I did read the thread and the game log.

My suggestion is to fill out an e-ticket and let Admin look it over again.
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