MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:40 am

FYI guys, I'm going on vacation Saturday for a week and will be busy today at work and tonight at home trying to get ready to leave. I can still check in here occassionally at night, but my posts will drop considerably. Just wanted to explain why so I wouldn't get lynched for it!!

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:04 pm

Well I am going to unvote houssam

I'm really not sure who is mafia now. I'm going to have to rethink some things.
I will say this Treistan is looking very scummy by ignore questions of him.

And I also wonder about vgm since redbull got not role for him.

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:23 pm

Aight, I've read from page 30 to here, and I don't like trestain one bit. He hasn't posted anything of substance and she's been bandwagoning. however, he did that last game and if I remember correctly he was a townie. Still though, he doesn't look good.

FOS Trestain. I'll vote you if you can't change my mind.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:29 pm

Well... to me its clear... if this is not a day serial killer, its a day mafia vigilant. A townie wouldnt do so much damage to the town! Well, at least, we now know red bull was usefull just to mafia, not to the town.

Anyway, if we are vulnerable to mafia, even during day, and this is not helping us. About the alive members...

AndyDufresne looks clean, but Im not totally sure.
After many replacements, I have still no opinion about Dussle.
Fircoal looks clean to me; is the single one I have no doubt about.
HoussamTheGreat is not a main suspect.
Huguenots is someone I dont trust... hes looking to silly, unoffensive, but this can be a tactic.
moz976 is not a great suspect, but Im confuse about him.
Nyvek looks clean, but Im still unsure.
sam jam is like a submarine, but its not my greater suspect.
I always suspected Senfive... hes very scummy to me.
I dont trust sully800, those initial things seem a trick to show himself reliable.
trestain is a complete submarine; I also want hear more from him.
About vgmmaster, I dont have the feel hes mafia, like other people... maybe if you guy point something really suspect, I will change my mind.
wicked - she looks unstable, and is acting to put pressure on people, and this is a good strategy to mafia trying to seem townie; but shes still not a main suspect.

Like you know, we need talk more to get mafia being suspicious. So I would appreciate if all you could post your impressions about all alive people.

And to make clear already: I will bandwagon a trestain lynch if people are going to lynch him and deadline is approaching. Hes really not being helpfull to the town.

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:36 pm

Marvaddin wrote:Well... to me its clear... if this is not a day serial killer, its a day mafia vigilant. A townie wouldnt do so much damage to the town! Well, at least, we now know red bull was usefull just to mafia, not to the town.

A mafia vigilante? That doesn't sound right. Perhaps another mafia? As for this "Vanilla Mafia" vs "Mafia", I'm thinking that perhaps either a mafia somehow has more power than a vanilla , the "Mafia" had a hidden role, or there's a vanilla mafie, possibly with no powers but more people?

vgmmaster · Post by **vgmmaster** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:22 pm

Seeing how we have a naive cop, I'm willing to put money on the fact that there is also a paranoid cop as well.

Seems only right...

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:23 pm

That'd be a bit cruel on AK's part.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:46 pm

Jeez, with more people going...and others coming back...and others barely posting, it's harder to get a read on everyone.

--Andy

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:07 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Jeez, with more people going...and others coming back...and others barely posting, it's harder to get a read on everyone.

Agreed... but you all still should try, so we can maybe get some tips... How good to us is a silent thread?

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:35 pm

Vote Count

[4] trestain -- (vgmmaster, Sully800, wicked, Senfive)
[10] Not Voting, Everyone Else

8 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Day Deadline: 26 Feb 2007 00:32 GMT.

Sam Jam · Post by **Sam Jam** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:38 pm

why does it always go quiet everytime i come and check up on this thread?

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:20 pm

Wow, not even five posts since I got back. Everyone ok?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:24 pm

Well, I was gone.

Anyway, Trestain is the most scummy at this point. Can someone else post their opinions.

Huguenots · Post by **Huguenots** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:07 am

does anyone have any evidece on trestian if some could you post the pg #s

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:59 pm

Page 11 -- reverend_kyle wrote:What the hell?

Oh well, one down I dunno how many to go. I"d estimate probably 4 or 5 with this being a 25 person game.

While looking back through the posts, I noticed this. As there has been some discussion on how many mafia are left, it's interesting to note Rev (Mafia -- Godfather) said 4-5. Now if we do indeed have 2 Different Mafias...his admission may mean we have 4 a piece. Again, it could mean nothing, but something interesting to consider nonetheless. Rev wasn't much for posting substance, so perhaps this is just a part of that, or maybe it isn't.

I'll comment a little more later on various things.

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:03 pm

Page 14 -- dussle wrote:I don't like a lot of you right now....
1. Notice senfives, he's pointing fingers at everyone and votes no lynch, a classic early game mafia move in an attempt to clear themselves.
2. All you XenHu bandwangoners... not that XenHu isn't being a dumbass, but he's just that, a dumbass. For some reason I think he's clear, and if he is don't say I didn't tell you so.
3. AK... a mid-day murder? FOS AK_Icemam

We barely have a read on dussle, as he's been around only so often, plus the whole replacement issue. Anyways, the bold part may be him trying to clear himself a little, if he is Mafia (as he would know who is Mafia and who isn't).

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:05 pm

Page 15 -- dussle wrote:
Machiavelli wrote:I was getting a vibe that XenHu, crammy and Senfive had a night relationship.
I'm 14, no need to expose me to that sort of thing.

Andways, carms was rather suspiscious when it came to Xen. Going after him, then suddenly backing off? I don't like Senfive, but I think we're making a big mistake with Xen... I guess we'll see. Anyways, if he turns out to be a townie, that's one less nuisance, given that he's not a doctor or a cop... then we'd all feel really dumb.

Still trying to get a read on Dussle. Similar to the other post about him thinking Xenhu lynching was wrong.

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:07 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:
sully800 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
He was arguing with Senfive a lot, almost fighting with him and I believe pointed a FOS but never voted for Senfive.
I think MB and Senfive have clashing personalities.

--Andy
Oh, I don't think MB investigated Senfive, since he was being accusatory toward Senfive. I do believe that MB investigated a townie because he would have tried to tip us off otherwise. So perhaps he was being accusatory toward Senfive and struck a bit of truth? Maybe Senfive felt threatened because MB was right and so Senfive bumped him off?

It's a reach I know, and can't be proven, but whenever a townie is killed I think its helpful to look at who they were suspicious of, or who they clashed with. For MB it seemed to be wicked, senfive and xenhu. I think the wicked vote was mostly a joke to start the day, so I will point another FOS at Senfive

As for your confidence in who MB investigated, I still am not seeing the reasoning Andy.
This is more evidence then we had killing xenhu. I'm going to go ahead and vote senfive as it seems he is the biggest lead, also he was in autoloads game with master bush and watched him pick off 5 mafia, and argued with him every time. It just makes sense.

Just interesting to note Rev.'s voting record.

--Andy

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:17 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
Page 11 -- reverend_kyle wrote:What the hell?

Oh well, one down I dunno how many to go. I"d estimate probably 4 or 5 with this being a 25 person game.
While looking back through the posts, I noticed this. As there has been some discussion on how many mafia are left, it's interesting to note Rev (Mafia -- Godfather) said 4-5. Now if we do indeed have 2 Different Mafias...his admission may mean we have 4 a piece. Again, it could mean nothing, but something interesting to consider nonetheless. Rev wasn't much for posting substance, so perhaps this is just a part of that, or maybe it isn't.

I'll comment a little more later on various things.

--Andy

How did you manage to find that andy? I don't know if i would have been able to find that quote out of all these pages. Don't really know if that tells us much like you said but it is a start. Exactly when can we expect your post? Rk, spieser, supercram, kernal, and auto all turned out to be mafia so i am going to go back and look at each ones voting behavior.

oh andy i see you posted more so nm my question.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:23 pm

Page 61 -- reverend_kyle wrote:Well, ok, I really do think that Andy's logic revolving marvaddin seems sound, however I do not for some reason believe marvaddin to be mafia, and senfive trying to finger many power roles does strike me as odd, and I believe to the point of fos senfive

Interesting to note his FOSing record also, he also seems to believe Marv is pro-town.

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:25 pm

Page 62 -- reverend_kyle wrote:
Senfive wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:Well, ok, I really do think that Andy's logic revolving marvaddin seems sound, however I do not for some reason believe marvaddin to be mafia, and senfive trying to finger many power roles does strike me as odd, and I believe to the point of fos senfive
Yet you say nothing of us losing a Cop for a Mafia? I for one trusted machs instints from every game I have been in cause he catches things I don't. Who have I actually ever posted substance on, and been right about it? Yet people usually reluctently go with me cause no one else wants to stick there night out there for the good of the town. Have you ever seen a Mafia Goon Shine in the Spot Light? (Not counting Wicked. ) It doesn't happen very often. Also when I am mafia you know it cause I don't try so hard to look for the mafia. Also with so many pages between the first time Rojo posted and puff claimed and all I missed alot of substance. So lynch me. I honestly don't care. Town is going to win this so I win lynched or not.
Yeah, I do say nothing about us losing a cop for a mafia, why? Because it doesnt matter. Well it matters overall in the game, but it also distracts from where I believe the conversation should be. That is catching scum that are ALIVE much like you Senfive, but clearly as scum you would want to focus debate on other stuff and distract from catching scum. I Fos'd you and you hurried with an omgus vote, that with the stuff above makes it clear that I should upgrade to a vote senfive

He seems to be stuck on voting senfive. Exactly what that all means, not entirely sure.

But the thread has been quiet, so I hope some of this will spark some ideas.

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:26 pm

Page 64 -- reverend_kyle wrote:I love how by having less internet time I get accused of slipping under the radar. IMO, senfive looks really suspicious but I guess because he posts alot he must not be mafia.

Again, Rev. with the Senfive suspicion.

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:27 pm

Page 64 -- reverend_kyle wrote:Well, I have posted, it seems to me I can be most helpful if everyone is on and posting while I post because then a conversation can be going on. I dont think the idea of killing submarine posters is necessarily good because it has failed so many times. I believe that Andy may be even bringing that out because he is mafia but posts alot. I know that in the first game DaGreatBroomheads game Andy was mafia but posted most and always tried to post something to condemn other people and he was good at it. No one wanted to lynch him because of the simple reason that they were afraid that they'd be killing a great voice of the towns. Senfive has been the first person I see to act suspicious so I posted an FOS at him, I dont like to completely jump all over something til I am sure but I"m almost positive that senfive is scum. I also have my suspicions about wicked also.

Again, more notes about his record.

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:30 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:i'm sensing a bandwagon on me, but I am willing to be a martyr for the town so that you can realize you lynched a good guy and go on to lynching some bad guys(senfive)

He really is stuck. Did he just choose a scapegoat to point all fingers at when the heat got on him?

--Andy

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:33 pm

Huguenots wrote:i hate deadlines but i'm voteing senfive

Interesting to note, while RK Lynch was gaining momentum, this guy (who barely has even played or posted) decided to go against the stream...and vote senfive. Perhaps he's in the 'Regular Mafia' with RK? I don't know why else he would vote senfive, unless he's been talking with RK via Mafia Talk, and they decided to use him as a scapegoat.

--Andy