MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

[Nyvek]

That night lasted only a little over 24 hours. The max length of a night is 3 24 hour days. So if the one mafia couldn't vote because Marv wasn't here the night would have been more than twice as long.

Nice find Sully, I didn’t consider the time frame. Unvote Marv

Anyways lets get some other people's perspective on where we should go from here.

Ok, here’s my perspective. I think the conversation between you and Houssam was productive. It’s looks like you were anxious to change the subject.

Well in that post sully says that we already have the required number to lynch so you should have known that the vote didn't matter.

OK.. On second thought.. this is the exact quote from Sully's post

"In any case, I think we may have reached the majority vote for RK already, but I'm not sure so you may want to switch your vote to avoid a no lynch (deadline should be in a few minutes right?)"


Why are you taking it out of context? Why should we trust you?

This is an excellent question. Why did you change the quote to fit your argument?

How did vgmmaster become a known townie? Did I miss something?

Yes you did. Red Bull has already investigated VGM.

vgmmaster clean unless she/he is a godfather sorry vgm dont really know if your male or female

[sully800]

You guys aren't keeping up very well!

We have two revealed doctors- myself and fircoal. It doesn't seem unreasonable to have 2 doctors in a 24 person game. Puff was insane as we all should know. And wicked- of course no one I protected is dead...I would have pointed something like that out because it would mean I wasn't an effective doctor. You could look at my previous post to find out that I protected myself, then red bull, then myself and we are both alive.

As for vgm- we know he is innocent because red bull investigated him last night!

[AndyDufresne]

Andy- would your new theory happen to be that I am mafia? Maybe I'm just paranoid but it seems like thats what you are hinting at here. I am more than willing to post the description of my night role in code. Then fircoal can post his description and when they match you will know I'm not a fake doctor.

I guess you're thinking that we have a lot of doctors....I was thinking that the whole time as well! I was told that puff was a doctor and then both fircoal and vgm mentioned something about being sure that redbull was protected on the second night. So I thought at first that they were both hinting at being doctors as well. That is why I isolated fircoal's quote that made him look like a doctor (and then mach told me to shut up and wicked made fun of me because the quote was obvious). I wasn't trying to point out the quote to say, 'hey look what I found!'....I was pointing it out because I was suspicious at that time of all the apparent doctors...

...Maybe I'm way over thinking this Andy and you actually trust me, but that wasn't the vibe I got from your last few posts. Now I NEED to stop being distracted and get my work done!

I'm still unsure of what my theory is evolving into. Though now that you so happened to mention it, perhaps all your scheming has been an elaborate plan to 'clear' you and get any heat off of you! Essentially, a mafia can claim doctor...as they have the power to let someone live. Now, depending on the wording in the mafia role...it most likely said 'you may/can select on person to die'... Perhaps the Mafia selected no one, to throw the town off...to make them go in circles...and question each other more...increasing the chance they will eliminate a fellow townie.

**shrugs** It's all very interesting. And I'm still a little paranoid about Redbull being a mafia cop...as I said a while ago...perhaps both mafias have one...thus he can also essentially claim he is town. Confusing.

I still suspect Marv, as his recent post didn't have much actual game substance (answers to questions, thoughtful comments, etc) in it.


--Andy


--Andy

[sully800]

How did vgmmaster become a known townie? Did I miss something?

Yes you did. Red Bull has already investigated VGM.

vgmmaster clean unless she/he is a godfather sorry vgm dont really know if your male or female

Damn, fast posted.

What I want to know is how Moz and senfive both missed where vgm was cleared. First of all, you should have expected red bull to come out today and say someone is cleared or someone is mafia...it only takes a few seconds to look for that post.

Oh and wicked, fircoal said earlier that he wasn't unlocked. As for me I've been a doctor from the start, as you should know from my post where I said I was a doctor. I protected myself the first night and I had intentions to protect puff once he said he was a doctor. So no, I did not just gain my powers after puff's death.

[sully800]

--Andy


--Andy

[Fircoal]

Fircola, I'm still wondering why we should "focus on" the 'blue' people?

I just realized, since I went of, that I said it wrong. We should focus on the non-blue.

[AndyDufresne]

Wanted to make sure I got my name on that post!

I think people missed Redbull's post...because of the way he did it.

(I.E. 'u wunt mi to post it?' 'ne1 wunt mi to post it?' 'awright, i posted it.' Sort of thing)


--Andy

[wicked]

We still haven't heard much from SamJam, Huguenots and trestain. Dussle, too, but I won't FOS him until he's given another day or so to catch up. Hell Marv says he needs two days to catch up!

So FOS SAMJAM, HUGENOTS, & TRESTAIN for not posting that much. (hey, it worked with RK!)

[wicked]

SuperFOS TRESTAIN .... just went back and looked at his posts in isolation for the last two "days" and he has barely participated. Came on to vote for cowboy, then "voted" for RK incorrectly - until I called him on it. Might just be an innocent mistake, but maybe not. He's well aware of what happened in that last game with an incorrect vote not counting, so maybe was hoping for the same here. Right now it's just a FOS until he comes and participates more so we can get a read on him. I don't have time to look at all his posts now (busy @ work), but will later tonight!

[Marvaddin]

That night lasted only a little over 24 hours. The max length of a night is 3 24 hour days. So if the one mafia couldn't vote because Marv wasn't here the night would have been more than twice as long.

Really... this cleans me a bit, huh? I still believe there is only one more mafia... vanilla type probably. I wouldnt be surprised if a mafia team have the mafia cop, and another one have the godfather. Wouldnt a mafia team be very powerfull with 4 people, including a godfather and a cop? So my 1st impression is that red bull is a clean cop.

I still suspect Marv, as his recent post didn't have much actual game substance (answers to questions, thoughtful comments, etc) in it.

Did you realize I was out for almost a week? I need read like 40 pages. But I will do that. If you suspect me, then you are assuming:
- there are still 3 mafia members at least.
- there is a team with at least 2 members, and Im part of it.
I think this looks a bit unprobable, huh?

Well, can someone anyway list the roles claimed, plus how blue people were cleaned? I will start a long reading exercise soon...

[dussle]

Agh.... I'm seriously lost here and I don't have the time to read. Come on guys, clue me in here or else I'll end up looking dumb and getting lynched.

[wicked]

We need a "Highlights" version for Dussle and Marv.

[dussle]

We need a "Highlights" version for Dussle and Marv.

Are you volunteering? I could use one.

[wicked]

Maybe catch up with the most recent day first? It's the shortest. No one's even voted yet, so it looks like you have some time.

[dussle]

I've gotten that far, but all of these people have admitted they were cops or doctors and they're still alive and ther are all these theories I can't analyze because I haven't read any of this..... guess what I'm doing over my weekend?

[AndyDufresne]

'Deceased':

supercram (Mafia -- Cop)

XenHu (Instigator)

Master Bush (Protown -- Day Cop)

spiesr (Mafia)

dcowboys055 (Protown -- "Vanilla Mutant")

Puff (Protown -- Insane Doctor)

Kernal_Kronic (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")

Machiavelli (Protown -- Cop)

autoload (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")

reverend_kyle (Mafia -- Godfather)

The fact that there is a 'Mafia' on the list and 'Vanilla Mafia'...seems to suggest two mafias. Otherwise Spiesr would've been listed as Vanilla...and he wasn't.

And the fact that the 'Regular Mafia' had two power roles, and that we have 2 'Vanilla Mafia' members dead without power roles, seems to suggest there are two more remaining that are Vanilla.

It could be that 'Vanilla', in the mafia sense, means no power role, but then why would AK_iceman said having spiesr just be 'Mafia' was not a mistake?

And Dussle and Marv...I'd read up. If you want to be apart of the game, get reading.


--Andy

[moz976]

That night lasted only a little over 24 hours. The max length of a night is 3 24 hour days. So if the one mafia couldn't vote because Marv wasn't here the night would have been more than twice as long.

Nice find Sully, I didn’t consider the time frame. Unvote Marv

Anyways lets get some other people's perspective on where we should go from here.

Ok, here’s my perspective. I think the conversation between you and Houssam was productive. It’s looks like you were anxious to change the subject.

Well in that post sully says that we already have the required number to lynch so you should have known that the vote didn't matter.

OK.. On second thought.. this is the exact quote from Sully's post

"In any case, I think we may have reached the majority vote for RK already, but I'm not sure so you may want to switch your vote to avoid a no lynch (deadline should be in a few minutes right?)"


Why are you taking it out of context? Why should we trust you?

This is an excellent question. Why did you change the quote to fit your argument?

How did vgmmaster become a known townie? Did I miss something?

Yes you did. Red Bull has already investigated VGM.

vgmmaster clean unless she/he is a godfather sorry vgm dont really know if your male or female

Ok on the first part I didn't want to change the subject I just thought a person other than me and houssam could help.

Second I honestly miss read what sully said and quoted from what I remembered.

And thirdly I missed red bull clearing vgm thanks for pointing that out.

I still don't trust houssam so my vote will stand for now. I am interested in hearing from the submarine posters.

[vgmmaster]

'Deceased':

supercram (Mafia -- Cop)

XenHu (Instigator)

Master Bush (Protown -- Day Cop)

spiesr (Mafia)

dcowboys055 (Protown -- "Vanilla Mutant")

Puff (Protown -- Insane Doctor)

Kernal_Kronic (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")

Machiavelli (Protown -- Cop)

autoload (Mafia -- "Vanilla Mafia")

reverend_kyle (Mafia -- Godfather)

The fact that there is a 'Mafia' on the list and 'Vanilla Mafia'...seems to suggest two mafias. Otherwise Spiesr would've been listed as Vanilla...and he wasn't.

And the fact that the 'Regular Mafia' had two power roles, and that we have 2 'Vanilla Mafia' members dead without power roles, seems to suggest there are two more remaining that are Vanilla.

It could be that 'Vanilla', in the mafia sense, means no power role, but then why would AK_iceman said having spiesr just be 'Mafia' was not a mistake?

And Dussle and Marv...I'd read up. If you want to be apart of the game, get reading.


--Andy

I'm guessing it wasn't a mistake because if one mafia was all power-roles and the other mafia was all vanilla, it wouldn't seem balanced. I would suspect 2 power-roles and 2 vanillas for both mafias. However, does the vanilla mean a mafia with no power roles or is it just AK's way to identiy a 2nd mafia?

[red bull]

**shrugs** It's all very interesting. And I'm still a little paranoid about Redbull being a mafia cop...as I said a while ago...perhaps both mafias have one...thus he can also essentially claim he is town. Confusing


--Andy

well right now i dont trust you andy i would have thought i have proven my self now.... but any way vote HoussamTheGreat

[Huguenots]

just a quick Question why do are you FOS ing me wicked?

[Huguenots]

opps srry now i now i just read the bold but i post alot just not from 9 to 3 because of school

[AndyDufresne]

so you don't trust me Redbull.


--Andy

[vgmmaster]

I don't know if Marv and Sam Jam are innocent or guilty, but here's a few things to think about.

Sam Jam can only log on after 6pm due to his parents (saw this posted in a mafia game somewhere).

Both mafia groups reacted quite fast. Either Marv is mafia and his partner knew he'd be away (so the action was sent without Marv's consent) or the two member mafia (if this is the case) were both online at the same time.

I have to go for now, but I should be back tomorrow afternoon to try and look at things better.

I'd say that Trestain looks the most scummy, followed by Houssam stated earlier by wicked and moz.

VOTE: Trestain

SFOS: Houssam

[red bull]

so you don't trust me Redbull.


--Andy

no andy i dont

[Sam Jam]

Sam Jam can only log on after 6pm due to his parents (saw this posted in a mafia game somewhere).

that is true. i could only get on now because of my parents (i was too addicted to CC, so they banned me from it ). thats 6pm CMT though. i think there's probably 8 mafia total with 1 "mafia" and 2 "vanilla" mafia left. probably a regular mafia on the mafia side and 2 power roles left on the vanilla side, mabye a roleblocker? that could explain the one death nights. ill be on for another hour to contribute so dont let it go to waste!