MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:51 pm

who me

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:59 pm

red bull wrote:who me

yeah you stop playing games.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:01 pm

Huguenots since I led the charge against RK. Mind explaining why you decided to follow him and vote for me? I am looking for dirt on you but you havent' posted much which makes me wonder even more. I want an explination.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:04 pm

vgmmaster clean unless she/he is a godfather sorry vgm dont really know if your male or female

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:07 pm

Hm, well I'm going to develop my theory in written post form...

--Andy

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:54 pm

Hi everyone. Sorry but I missed a lot? Anyone wanna be helpful and clue me in here?

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:55 pm

EDIT: Sorry but I missed a lot isn't a question.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:55 pm

dussle wrote:Hi everyone. Sorry but I missed a lot? Anyone wanna be helpful and clue me in here?

YOU GOT REPLACED!

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:56 pm

Fircoal wrote:
dussle wrote:Hi everyone. Sorry but I missed a lot? Anyone wanna be helpful and clue me in here?
YOU GOT REPLACED!

I know that, think I'm that dumb? I replaced my replacer who didn't show up.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:58 pm

dussle wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
dussle wrote:Hi everyone. Sorry but I missed a lot? Anyone wanna be helpful and clue me in here?
YOU GOT REPLACED!
I know that, think I'm that dumb? I replaced my replacer who didn't show up.

Then why doesn't it say that on the 1st page?

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:00 pm

Lets hear from AK first, just to clarify everything. Until then, I wouldn't post Dussle.

--Andy

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:32 pm

Sorry guys, it slipped my mind earlier.

Announcement
Dussle has replaced geegel since he hasn't logged on in 5 days.

This will be the very last replacement.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:45 pm

Andy- would your new theory happen to be that I am mafia? Maybe I'm just paranoid but it seems like thats what you are hinting at here. I am more than willing to post the description of my night role in code. Then fircoal can post his description and when they match you will know I'm not a fake doctor.

I guess you're thinking that we have a lot of doctors....I was thinking that the whole time as well! I was told that puff was a doctor and then both fircoal and vgm mentioned something about being sure that redbull was protected on the second night. So I thought at first that they were both hinting at being doctors as well. That is why I isolated fircoal's quote that made him look like a doctor (and then mach told me to shut up and wicked made fun of me because the quote was obvious). I wasn't trying to point out the quote to say, 'hey look what I found!'....I was pointing it out because I was suspicious at that time of all the apparent doctors.

Here is the incident if people don't remember...

sully800 wrote:
Fircoal wrote:I'm pretty sure the doc protected Red Bull.
Hmmmm....

Machiavelli wrote:stfu newb!

Later Fircoal asked if anyone got his hint and wicked replied with

wicked wrote:we all got the hint about your role Fircoal, just didn't want to announce it! doesn't matter now since you're out. why sully has a 1/2 page post about how he got the hints is beyond me.

The reason I was explaining so much there wasn't because I understood the hint, it was because I was skeptical of having yet another doctor.

Also- the whole game people have been pointing out that I'm curious about roles....some say it looks suspicious because that is info only the mafia would want to know. Well of course, a townie doctor would also want to know that info so they actually have an idea of who to protect! And that is the reason I kept trying to find out as much information about each persons role as possible.

Maybe I'm way over thinking this Andy and you actually trust me, but that wasn't the vibe I got from your last few posts. Now I NEED to stop being distracted and get my work done!

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:29 am

sorry guys, been a crazy night and you all have been busy. let me catch up and I'll try to post my thoughts if I don't fall asleep first....

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:50 am

questions:
-what's a mayor do?
-why did Hugenots vote with RK?
-Is the reason for no kill b/c of doc's protection or a noob mafia w/o their leader RK?
-where the hell are samjam and trestain and houssam? we've barely heard from them. moz too. And Hugenots has barely posted since relieving whoever. dussle's back? why were you grounded? lol
-Shouldn't Marv be back already?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:53 am

oops, one more,

Sully how did you know no one would die last night? If you already stated that, sorry, there's a lot of info thrown out here recently.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:07 am

wicked wrote:questions:
-what's a mayor do?
-why did Hugenots vote with RK?
-Is the reason for no kill b/c of doc's protection or a noob mafia w/o their leader RK?
-where the hell are samjam and trestain and houssam? we've barely heard from them. moz too. And Hugenots has barely posted since relieving whoever. dussle's back? why were you grounded? lol
-Shouldn't Marv be back already?

A mayor can choose to stop a lynch at anytime, but it can't be his own lynch and it can't be the same person twice.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:13 am

at anytime?? meaning he can bring back peeps from the dead or what? Andy is this true?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:15 am

wicked wrote:at anytime?? meaning he can bring back peeps from the dead or what? Andy is this true?

No, it means when a lynch is about to happen on that day, he can end it.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:45 am

First off:

BAH!

second off: I KNOW SO MUCH BUT I CANT SAY IT.

ok i'll leave now.

Nyvek · Post by **Nyvek** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:35 am

Right now my suspicions are off Senfive mostly because RK went after him so hard.

VGM is cleared by Red Bull's investigation. The only way he can be scum is if he's the 2nd team's godfather.

Until RK's was lynched, I thought Andy had "shanghaid" the whole town into lynching another Dcowboys. Sully and Wicked were pushing so hard, it just looked fake. But, with RK's identity shown and Sully's consistent pro-town record, it all fits pretty well.

I was thinking about how no one was killed last night. What are the odds that both doctors chose both mafia targets? Pretty slim. I believe that leaves a couple scenarios.

If we believe there is 3 mafia to a team, team "mafia" is wiped and team "vanilla mafia" has 1 survivor. If there's 4 per team, that would leave 1 and 2 left.

With 2 doctors and several "targets" exposed, its not too hard to reason 1 attack was blocked. What if the other attack never got issued? What if the last surviving mafia was out of town?

Vote Marvaddin

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:23 am

Nyvek wrote:Right now my suspicions are off Senfive mostly because RK went after him so hard.

VGM is cleared by Red Bull's investigation. The only way he can be scum is if he's the 2nd team's godfather.

Until RK's was lynched, I thought Andy had "shanghaid" the whole town into lynching another Dcowboys. Sully and Wicked were pushing so hard, it just looked fake. But, with RK's identity shown and Sully's consistent pro-town record, it all fits pretty well.

I was thinking about how no one was killed last night. What are the odds that both doctors chose both mafia targets? Pretty slim. I believe that leaves a couple scenarios.

If we believe there is 3 mafia to a team, team "mafia" is wiped and team "vanilla mafia" has 1 survivor. If there's 4 per team, that would leave 1 and 2 left.

With 2 doctors and several "targets" exposed, its not too hard to reason 1 attack was blocked. What if the other attack never got issued? What if the last surviving mafia was out of town?

Vote Marvaddin

Makes sense but I would like to hear a defense first.

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:17 am

Ok well these are the people that did not participate in the lynching of RK which could give us some clues as to who is mafia and who isn't.

Dussle (can't really blame him though since he just got back)
Houssam (conveniently came in and voted after RK had the votes needed to be lynched)
Huguenots(was around during the lynching of and decided to side with RK instead of the town)
Marv(on vacation?)
Nyvex(again he was around to vote and was pushing hard against andy)
Sam Jam(barley posting could either be another RK or cowboy)

Now I am most suspicious of Houssam the way he slipped in there to cast a vote after it didn't really matter.

I also thought it was strange that treistan made the mistake of not bolding his vote. Was that on purpose and when he got called on it he came back and fixed it?

There also could be some mafia members mixed in there with the townies that voted for RK since there are two mafias. But these are just some thoughts I had.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:49 am

Nyvek wrote:Right now my suspicions are off Senfive mostly because RK went after him so hard.

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What if the other attack never got issued? What if the last surviving mafia was out of town?

Vote Marvaddin

But if RK knew he was getting lynched, it would be a good way to save a mafia buddy.

Interesting theory about the no deaths. I'd like to hear from Marv as well.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:21 am

wicked wrote:oops, one more,

Sully how did you know no one would die last night? If you already stated that, sorry, there's a lot of info thrown out here recently.

That was my prediction based on my plan.

I announced that red bull would be protected by fircoal and I tried to get the mafia to frame andy by leaving him alive. I still couldn't protect fircoal directly so I tried to make myself look very important and possibly like a cop so that the votes would come to me and not fircoal, then I protected myself. I didn't KNOW that no one would die, but it was the best case scenario for if the plan worked properly. If it didn't work I would have had to change the long post to reflect what happened.

Nyvek wrote:Until RK's was lynched, I thought Andy had "shanghaid" the whole town into lynching another Dcowboys.

Until RK was lynched I suspected that Andy couldn't vote for some reason. That was the first vote he cast all game, and I thought it might have something to do with his mayor role.

Nyvek wrote:I was thinking about how no one was killed last night. What are the odds that both doctors chose both mafia targets? Pretty slim. I believe that leaves a couple scenarios.

With 2 doctors and several "targets" exposed, its not too hard to reason 1 attack was blocked. What if the other attack never got issued? What if the last surviving mafia was out of town?

Well first of all, the mafia would have known red bull would be protected since that was announced in the thread. The real question is what are the chances that both mafias fell for the trap and both tried to kill me? I don't know the answer to that, just like we don't know for sure if there are two mafias (or members of two mafias left)

The second part of your quote doesn't make sense though. That night lasted only a little over 24 hours. The max length of a night is 3 24 hour days. So if the one mafia couldn't vote because Marv wasn't here the night would have been more than twice as long.

wicked wrote:
Nyvek wrote:Right now my suspicions are off Senfive mostly because RK went after him so hard.
But if RK knew he was getting lynched, it would be a good way to save a mafia buddy

RK went after Senfive long before it looked like RK was going to be lynched. Their interaction was one of the things that made RK look suspicious. I don't think Senfive is cleared, but a lot of my suspicions are off of him

Finally, I agree with moz that we should look at his list. Houssam conveniently missed the deadline to vote RK and Hugue sided with RK and voted for senfive even though it was close to a no lynch....I think they both look rather scummy from that incident.