Conquer Club

Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner[Cleared/Warned]

All previously decided cases. Please check here before opening a new case.

Moderators: Multi Hunters, Cheating/Abuse Team

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

[These cases have been closed. If you would like to appeal the decision of the hunter please open a ticket on the help page and the case will be looked into by a second hunter.]

Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner[Cleared/Warned]

Postby ..//x.Instinct.x on Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:53 am

Accused:
katsoulas
i3laderunner

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number:
Game 6242391

Comments:
In the first three rounds of this game i3laderunner takes three regions from me, and doesn't hassle katsoulas at all in the east of the map, even when i3laderunner acquired a bonus in his first turn. From then on he is consistently breaking my bonus, which would only be giving me six in total, whilst katsoulas was deploying ten, eleven or fifteen. The only time i3laderunner bothered to make an attack on katsoulas was when one of his bonuses was broken, but that is the only occurence of it. Since then - the last couple of rounds - katsoulas has just been acquiring more bonuses and i3laderunner as been doing nothing apart from trying to eliminate me, apparently because of my bad language.

They're chat is also slightly suspicious. They both seem to repeat each others' feelings, and they're grammar and punctuation are equally as bad as each other. Another point is that they're both from Greece, which could just be coincidence: perhaps their friends. Finally, it often takes a few minutes for either of them to start their turn - perhaps logging in and out?

Also, I'd like to thank FireStar for helping me out with this issue.
Image
User avatar
Private 1st Class ..//x.Instinct.x
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:59 am

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner

Postby jefjef on Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:47 pm

They are the same person.
This post was made by jefjef who should be on your ignore list.
Image
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
User avatar
Colonel jefjef
 
Posts: 6026
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:41 pm
Location: on my ass

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner

Postby Gen.LeeGettinhed on Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:35 pm

Instinct and CC,

Katsoulas contacted me about the situation a few minutes ago. While CC will check the Multi angle, he confirmed that he and Blade were close friends. He said that he did not know what he and Blade were doing was wrong. I propose:
1) Red back off (stop attacking Green/Blue) in the game, until sides are equal
2) Green back off from attacking Blue in the game -- uintil sides are equal
3) give time for Blue to catch-up in combination of regions and armies (no one has bonuse, etc.
4) and all 3 finish game as individuals

I also recommended that they quit playing 3's unless they act independent, focus on 1v1, 2v2, and >3 and announce friendships at BEGINNING.

Although I'm sure CC Admin C&A/multi/SD has their own process for handling, I give Katsoulas credit for asking advice and agreeing that what they did wasn't fair to Instinct.

Good luck,
User avatar
Field Marshal Gen.LeeGettinhed
 
Posts: 535
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:32 pm
Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (just south of El USA -- that's Spanish for The USA)

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner

Postby katsoulas on Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:25 pm

I accept and agree to what David posted, though close friends is not exactly the case, me and bladerunner are actually workng in the same company, we sure know each other, but we are not close friends.
We played several games before, us along with other colleagues as well, and many times we have hit each other hard, this can be easily proved, instinct should have seen it already in our previous games.

I must say that it was not my purpose, personally, to favor blade on the game, i played for my part and tried to win either it is Instinct or Blade I have to attack. If I am accused for bad tactics I can accept.

I also should accept that in case i was 50-50 between attacking Instinct or Blade, ok, I would choose Instinct. I admit that is unfair to some point and on 1v1v1 it gets more unfair, so accept David's suggestion.

Moreover, I can propose to back off entirely and let one of two other players to win the game, even Instinct who is considered the mistreated one. Ok with me.

What I wont do is apologize to Instinct, as he has been insulting Blade in a bad way, while the other part treated him with manners.

I also would like to say that when I go to 1v1v1 (rarely) I first check the nationality of two others. It is there, everyone can see, and i suspect it got there for this specific reason. I believe its more than humanly acceptable that a man favors one with same nationality even not in purpose.

If not well put, excuse my English......
Major katsoulas
 
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:16 am

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner

Postby jefjef on Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:51 pm

Here is another player that is part of this mix egw Should be looked. Several games with these three.
This post was made by jefjef who should be on your ignore list.
Image
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
User avatar
Colonel jefjef
 
Posts: 6026
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:41 pm
Location: on my ass

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner

Postby katsoulas on Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:22 am

Jefjef u seem like experienced CC user, why dont u make your search complete?..
Go to gamefinder and type:
With player - katsoulas
and player - i3laderunner

You will find 14 games on which, Eudoxos, egw, HawkCS_2000 take part along with us two.

Then go to each profile and see.. surprise... we are all fom Greece!!
As I said we are colleagues.
And we are playing between us.
Do you plan to prove that we are the same person, all of us trying to kill ownself ?????
If there is a way to check our ip origin please by all means do, that should prove our inocence.

I try not to write long posts but unfortunately I do. I just want to state the facts.

Cheers
Major katsoulas
 
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:16 am

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner

Postby Lionz on Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:15 am

Is there a secret Greece alliance club or what?

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=6242832
User avatar
General Lionz
 
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner[Pending]

Postby eye84free on Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:10 am

Looking into it at this time.

Eye84free
User avatar
Major eye84free
 
Posts: 1576
Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:33 pm
Location: NORTH CAROLINA

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner[Pending]

Postby Lionz on Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:46 pm

You should check out a latest move here perhaps...

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=6242832
User avatar
General Lionz
 
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner[Pending]

Postby Lionz on Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:15 pm

Move of red perhaps.
User avatar
General Lionz
 
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Re: Secret Diplomacy: katsoulas & i3laderunner[Cleared/Warned]

Postby eye84free on Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:28 pm

Cleared of multis.
Warned for poss Secret Diplomacy.

Eye84free
User avatar
Major eye84free
 
Posts: 1576
Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:33 pm
Location: NORTH CAROLINA


Return to Closed C&A Reports

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users