Another FARMING thread

[Aalmeida17]

another think is the points
oh well the points , if CC never get the NR's points the Conqueror never had more than 2000 and major , colonel , Brigadier , general and fidel marshal never exist , cuz the active players win and LOSE too , if u play always with the same guy from the beginning , u lose all the games and he win all , he get 1999 points u get 1(i think u cant get 0) but if u win one game to him u gonna win more than 50 points , and in last game he wont to u and just get 1 point, can u c my point of view?

can you ask targetman to translate this for us?

i try to do my best but i dont born in america ok?!
can u try to read and dont blame

I've spent over half of my life outside of the US, and English is not my first language. The only differences between you and me are:
1. I have enough of a brain to talk like a normal person.
2. I have enough of a brain to get to major easily without playing new recruits.
3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

HAHAHAHA

1-contrag for u , u deserve a statue with 9 meters in the center of NY , can u tal to me in portuguese? oh ok i understand go sleep
2.realy ???why u still Captain?
3-i have same brain and so what?

[jefjef]

you start this thread, and not expect my honest opinions?

this thread was a bait from the onset. a bait at me...

YOU were not notified. YOU were not invited. YOU are not a topic of this thread. YOU are using this thread for personal agendas.

Now to stay on topic:

CC is at fault for ALL farming because they allow what they consider cheating by not blocking it.

[Aalmeida17]

you start this thread, and not expect my honest opinions?

this thread was a bait from the onset. a bait at me...

bait like what I dont wanna catch ya!!!

[jefjef]

This isn't even about what's better for CC. It's kind of obvious this should've been enforced a long fucking time ago. This is now a matter of the mods being too stuck-up and stubborn to ENFORCE THIS. It has turned into a grudge-match, and I'm still unsure who will give in first, but I hope, for the good of CC, that the mods give in.

READ THIS CC. End farming. Free up your mods time. Protect our precious NR's.

[Aalmeida17]

This isn't even about what's better for CC. It's kind of obvious this should've been enforced a long fucking time ago. This is now a matter of the mods being too stuck-up and stubborn to ENFORCE THIS. It has turned into a grudge-match, and I'm still unsure who will give in first, but I hope, for the good of CC, that the mods give in.

READ THIS CC. End farming. Free up your mods time. Protect our precious NR's.

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[Aalmeida17]

course , they can win 2 we did block him to win , if they read forum try to understand , the story should be different

[jefjef]

This isn't even about what's better for CC. It's kind of obvious this should've been enforced a long fucking time ago. This is now a matter of the mods being too stuck-up and stubborn to ENFORCE THIS. It has turned into a grudge-match, and I'm still unsure who will give in first, but I hope, for the good of CC, that the mods give in.

READ THIS CC. End farming. Free up your mods time. Protect our precious NR's.

who gives a f*ck about NR's, as paying customers we are always right. It's win-win situation for all of us

Don't misunderstand. I don't give a rats ass about NR's. I'd prefer to never play one. A lot of em are multi's anyway.

This farming crap is a rules violation enforced by those who allow it. Stop allowing it. Block ?? from playing officers. End of story. End of farming crimes.

[MrMoody]

CC does not want restriction by rank. This will only grow into General and Field Marshals who don't want to play with anyone lower then major. Colonels would say they shouldn't need to play with cooks. restriction by rank brings a lot of new problems to the table. CC has always said any player should and can play against any other player. This may be the easy way to stop farming dead in its tracks but I don't believe it will ever be put into use.

Could there be another answer? Are members willing to give up other freedoms to end farming? One thing I see many farmers doing is starting multiple games of the same setting knowing some or many will make it to the first page of game finder.

3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

Could giving up the freedom of starting 50 new games end farming forever? If you could still join unlimited games BUT ONLY START 5 OR 10 farmers couldn't use this. I can only think of one case where this was not part of the method used. That case was not ruled as farming.

Are members willing to give up something like this to help end farming?

[The Neon Peon]

another think is the points
oh well the points , if CC never get the NR's points the Conqueror never had more than 2000 and major , colonel , Brigadier , general and fidel marshal never exist , cuz the active players win and LOSE too , if u play always with the same guy from the beginning , u lose all the games and he win all , he get 1999 points u get 1(i think u cant get 0) but if u win one game to him u gonna win more than 50 points , and in last game he wont to u and just get 1 point, can u c my point of view?

can you ask targetman to translate this for us?

i try to do my best but i dont born in america ok?!
can u try to read and dont blame

I've spent over half of my life outside of the US, and English is not my first language. The only differences between you and me are:
1. I have enough of a brain to talk like a normal person.
2. I have enough of a brain to get to major easily without playing new recruits.
3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

HAHAHAHA

1-contrag for u , u deserve a statue with 9 meters in the center of NY , can u tal to me in portuguese? oh ok i understand go sleep
2.realy ???why u still Captain?
3-i have same brain and so what?

1. Sorry, I don't know Portuguese, although it would greatly increase our ability to communicate, I'm sure. If you wish to speak in French, Russian, or Ukrainian instead, perhaps I wouldn't be forced to read your poor grammar.
2. Take a look at my games. Go a page back. See the 125 doodle 1v1s where all I did was auto until I didn't have any troops on the board. Alternatively, you can map rank me, see the couple of dozen times I've hit colonel, go to the game finder, and look up the various game types I've used to get there.
3.

As for farming, I think this is where CC goes down to the level of other sites. In almost all games, there are ways to abuse the game without the admin caring at all. I've seen places that seem to do everything to encourage the abuse of the game and other that ban the members for doing almost nothing. It is impossible to find the perfect middle ground, since the person can always plead that they are too stupid to realize new recruits won't stop joining the games after the first 30, or the next, or the next, or the next... It just comes down to whether the admin are going to take the rules by what they say or what they mean.

[alex951]

maybe the first five game of ?'s should not count, almost practice. that way they have time to learn the game but not get targeted because they are new.

[The Neon Peon]

3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

Could giving up the freedom of starting 50 new games end farming forever? If you could still join unlimited games BUT ONLY START 5 OR 10 farmers couldn't use this. I can only think of one case where this was not part of the method used. That case was not ruled as farming.

Are members willing to give up something like this to help end farming?

Take a look at this case closely. There are not 50 games, as the game waiting limit, but well over 100. And furthermore, he stated that he did not start more than 30 at once.

It is not that he started 50 games that filled up with new recruits. I perfectly understand how that could happen.

But to start 30, watch them fill up with new recruits..
start more 30, watch them fill up with new recruits...
start more 30, watch them fill up with new recruits...
then start more...

I think that it's not a matter of restricting the amount of games at that point. He can farm just as easily in sets of 10 or 20 games.

[Army of GOD]

I've always loved this idea: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 4&t=102006

[jefjef]

CC does not want restriction by rank. This will only grow into General and Field Marshals who don't want to play with anyone lower then major. Colonels would say they shouldn't need to play with cooks. restriction by rank brings a lot of new problems to the table. CC has always said any player should and can play against any other player. This may be the easy way to stop farming dead in its tracks but I don't believe it will ever be put into use.

Could there be another answer? Are members willing to give up other freedoms to end farming? One thing I see many farmers doing is starting multiple games of the same setting knowing some or many will make it to the first page of game finder.

3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

Could giving up the freedom of starting 50 new games end farming forever? If you could still join unlimited games BUT ONLY START 5 OR 10 farmers couldn't use this. I can only think of one case where this was not part of the method used. That case was not ruled as farming.

Are members willing to give up something like this to help end farming?

A QUESTION MARK is not a rank. It is a QUESTION MARK. They only are a QUESTION MARK until they play, what, 5 games.

It is NOT rank restriction if they have NO RANK.

BUT to suggest PAYING players to NOT create games they PAY for because peeps join them is ridiculous.

[Aalmeida17]

CC does not want restriction by rank. This will only grow into General and Field Marshals who don't want to play with anyone lower then major. Colonels would say they shouldn't need to play with cooks. restriction by rank brings a lot of new problems to the table. CC has always said any player should and can play against any other player. This may be the easy way to stop farming dead in its tracks but I don't believe it will ever be put into use.

Could there be another answer? Are members willing to give up other freedoms to end farming? One thing I see many farmers doing is starting multiple games of the same setting knowing some or many will make it to the first page of game finder.

3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

Could giving up the freedom of starting 50 new games end farming forever? If you could still join unlimited games BUT ONLY START 5 OR 10 farmers couldn't use this. I can only think of one case where this was not part of the method used. That case was not ruled as farming.

Are members willing to give up something like this to help end farming?

bla bla bla , ya wrote some nice words but the question is , restrict all the maps with that type of settings just because we know they will join?
we pay to have no restrictions

one more thing - why play with NR's is considered farming?
we just play with them , and they play eatch other , why was that farming?
cuz they dont wont , if all the 5 been NR's just one can win , what the difference ?
u win one more costumer ? i just get premium cuz like speeds .

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[Aalmeida17]

HAHAHAHA

1-contrag for u , u deserve a statue with 9 meters in the center of NY , can u tal to me in portuguese? oh ok i understand go sleep
2.realy ???why u still Captain?
3-i have same brain and so what? [/quote]
1. Sorry, I don't know Portuguese, although it would greatly increase our ability to communicate, I'm sure. If you wish to speak in French, Russian, or Ukrainian instead, perhaps I wouldn't be forced to read your poor grammar.
2. Take a look at my games. Go a page back. See the 125 doodle 1v1s where all I did was auto until I didn't have any troops on the board. Alternatively, you can map rank me, see the couple of dozen times I've hit colonel, go to the game finder, and look up the various game types I've used to get there.
3.

As for farming, I think this is where CC goes down to the level of other sites. In almost all games, there are ways to abuse the game without the admin caring at all. I've seen places that seem to do everything to encourage the abuse of the game and other that ban the members for doing almost nothing. It is impossible to find the perfect middle ground, since the person can always plead that they are too stupid to realize new recruits won't stop joining the games after the first 30, or the next, or the next, or the next... It just comes down to whether the admin are going to take the rules by what they say or what they mean.[/quote]


i realy enjoyed knowing why the f*ck u always target me in ur posts and what evil have I done to you?

[alex951]

CC does not want restriction by rank. This will only grow into General and Field Marshals who don't want to play with anyone lower then major. Colonels would say they shouldn't need to play with cooks. restriction by rank brings a lot of new problems to the table. CC has always said any player should and can play against any other player. This may be the easy way to stop farming dead in its tracks but I don't believe it will ever be put into use.

Could there be another answer? Are members willing to give up other freedoms to end farming? One thing I see many farmers doing is starting multiple games of the same setting knowing some or many will make it to the first page of game finder.

3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

Could giving up the freedom of starting 50 new games end farming forever? If you could still join unlimited games BUT ONLY START 5 OR 10 farmers couldn't use this. I can only think of one case where this was not part of the method used. That case was not ruled as farming.

Are members willing to give up something like this to help end farming?

but this freemi is obviously targeting NR but he can only have 4 games at a time dukefleed

why should i pay for premium only to be limited.

[MrMoody]

CC does not want restriction by rank. This will only grow into General and Field Marshals who don't want to play with anyone lower then major. Colonels would say they shouldn't need to play with cooks. restriction by rank brings a lot of new problems to the table. CC has always said any player should and can play against any other player. This may be the easy way to stop farming dead in its tracks but I don't believe it will ever be put into use.

Could there be another answer? Are members willing to give up other freedoms to end farming? One thing I see many farmers doing is starting multiple games of the same setting knowing some or many will make it to the first page of game finder.

3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

Could giving up the freedom of starting 50 new games end farming forever? If you could still join unlimited games BUT ONLY START 5 OR 10 farmers couldn't use this. I can only think of one case where this was not part of the method used. That case was not ruled as farming.

Are members willing to give up something like this to help end farming?

but this freemi is obviously targeting NR but he can only have 4 games at a time dukefleed

why should i pay for premium only to be limited.

There is already a limit at 50 games. premium is not unlimited for starting new games only unlimited to join games.
dukefleed looking at this. His first two pages of games have almost no new recruits. could the reason he now gets so many new recruits be from other maps being restricted?

[Snowgun]

CC does not want restriction by rank. This will only grow into General and Field Marshals who don't want to play with anyone lower then major. Colonels would say they shouldn't need to play with cooks. restriction by rank brings a lot of new problems to the table. CC has always said any player should and can play against any other player. This may be the easy way to stop farming dead in its tracks but I don't believe it will ever be put into use.

Could there be another answer? Are members willing to give up other freedoms to end farming? One thing I see many farmers doing is starting multiple games of the same setting knowing some or many will make it to the first page of game finder.

3. I have enough of a brain to figure out that if new recruits join the first 100 games on a map and settings, then they will join the next 20 you start.

Could giving up the freedom of starting 50 new games end farming forever? If you could still join unlimited games BUT ONLY START 5 OR 10 farmers couldn't use this. I can only think of one case where this was not part of the method used. That case was not ruled as farming.

Are members willing to give up something like this to help end farming?

As JefJef said, ? are not a rank.

I agree that a striation of rank restrictions would be bad. But look at the ridiculousness of what is already in place to try and stop farming. Why is the burden on the paying members?

• What happens when you put a game in the xbox (or on a pc or other councel), the game usually starts by explaining things to you, how to play the game, what not to do, ect.
  
  What happens when you first start to do something in society, like driving a car, bungee jumping, ect. You sign a waiver making sure you understand the dangers. You also may have a probationary period so you can extract your head from your ass before you do the real thing.

CC already does this with the multi checkbox and restriction certain maps from ?'s!

LETS take this to the obvious conclusion, and restrict ? from playing higher ranked members till they get cook (all of about 2 days), and EDUCATE them about joining freestyle and other advanced games.

Don't take this out on the Premium players. You will loose them.

Don't hate the players hate the game. (and those who code it )

[MrMoody]

Well best of luck with this. From what I have read over the last two years here. CC will not restrict players in this way. They seem more then willing to consider other solutions. Restriction has not been a choice they want.

[jefjef]

Well best of luck with this. From what I have read over the last two years here. CC will not restrict players in this way.

Then CC should not have a farming rule.

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[Snowgun]

Well best of luck with this. From what I have read over the last two years here. CC will not restrict players in this way.

Then CC should not have a farming rule.

Eventually, and hopefully, CC will finally realize that they can't have this both ways.

To stop this you have to address the source. Flinging about rules for the bread and butter of this site (the premiums) is just sticking your finger in the dam. Deal with the god damn noobs man!

[Woodruff]

CC does not want restriction by rank. This will only grow into General and Field Marshals who don't want to play with anyone lower then major.

No sir, that's not even remotely true, as has been WELL DOCUMENTED in the various anti-farming/pro-rank-restriction threads. There are many ways (one in particular is PERFECT) to limit ranks without making it so that the very top can only play with the very top.

Sadly, this site WANTS to have their cake and be able to eat it too...and they're losing members because of it.