MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:30 pm

I think anyone that pushes to vote you know will look suspicious. I find RK more scummy looking at this point, or even Sen, I'm not sure about him.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:37 pm

People on my scummy list:

RK
Houssam
Marv
Nyvek

(No particular order...except for maybe Marv #1)

Senfive is a possibility...but he did post something that could clear him...but if he may have got the info through mafia cohorts. I don't know.

And Sully. Only because I know you are good at playing these games.

--Andy

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:45 pm

I agree with you on Marv, but Nyvek sounds like town to me. Houssam is borderline, Rk is a bit scummy. Senfive is a bit scummy, and Sully seems town.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:48 pm

Well I appreciate that Andy, and that is the exact problem I am having with wicked. In the Superland mafia game where myself wicked and marv were mafia, I was the only one who got caught because I guess I am not a good enough actor. Marv and wicked seem to act the same in every game and despite wicked posting more than anyone I still can't get a proper read on her. Also- since Andy has declared the true meaning of his "I won't get lynched" philosophy anyone else who votes for him will appear rather scummy since the 'test' has been thrown out the window. So I don't think you need to worry about being lynched while youre away...

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:58 pm

sully800 wrote: since Andy has declared the true meaning of his "I won't get lynched" philosophy anyone else who votes for him will appear rather scummy since the 'test' has been thrown out the window. So I don't think you need to worry about being lynched while youre away...

Funny, I said the same thing earlier.

Don't worry Sully, I don't trust you either.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:00 pm

If it makes anyone feel better, I've come down with Bogusbet Syndrome.

--Andy

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:05 pm

ok.. clearly, I am missing something about andy. maybe a reference to a previous game or something. I need a reference from a neutral source here that I am indeed missing something.. and I will go look elsewhere.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:09 pm

Is your above post in reference to Bogusbet Syndrome?

--Andy

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:10 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Is your above post in reference to Bogusbet Syndrome?

--Andy

yes. or just the fact that he is paranoid of anything that moves, and most things that don't??

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:11 pm

Basically you understand the symptoms of the Snydrome.

--Andy

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:17 pm

wicked wrote:Funny, I said the same thing earlier.

Well, you make such excellent points, that I figure my best chance to sound rational and innocent is to simply repeat what you say

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:18 pm

Kind of what like Marv did with Mach?

--Andy

Nyvek · Post by **Nyvek** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:54 am

@Andy

One thing I liked about your reply is thinking Mach was mafia at first, because I thought the same. It was mostly from him pushing the role claims. I never spotted Mason clues though.

Two questions:
1- While keeping your low profile to avoid suspicion, why would you brag about not getting lynched?

2- You stated you have an important protown role, with important information that could help us. You also stated you believe you’re a big target that may not make it through the night. If that’s true, why are you willing to risk another night of not being able to make your delivery?

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:34 am

I share the same worries as Nyvek. Whenever someone has important info its a tough debate- if you share the info you might get yourself or another person killed. But if you keep the info to yourself you might die with it which is even worse in most cases. That's why its always good to leave hints behind in the form of clues if you don't share your info. They just have to be obvious enough for someone to discover them!

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:47 am

Vote Count

[2] reverend_kyle -- (Senfive, Wicked)
[2] AndyDufresne -- (Nyvek, HoussamTheGreat)
[1] Senfive -- (reverend_kyle)
[1] sam jam -- (Sully800)
[10] Not Voting, Everyone Else

9 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Day Deadline: 20 Feb 2007 7:56 PM GMT.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:43 am

wicked wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:I"m almost positive that senfive is scum. I also have my suspicions about wicked also.
simply because we voted for you? that's a scum tell... retaliate by counter-voting with no proof.

No, Actually I FOS'd Senfive and he hurried and voted for me if you read the history back, I then called him out for his hurried vote of me after I'd fos'd him. Then I voted for him because I felt the way that if his voting after I'd fos'd was almost as if it was a Omgus vote, which is a sure scum tell as you agree.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:04 am

reverend_kyle wrote:
wicked wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:I"m almost positive that senfive is scum. I also have my suspicions about wicked also.
simply because we voted for you? that's a scum tell... retaliate by counter-voting with no proof.

No, Actually I FOS'd Senfive and he hurried and voted for me if you read the history back, I then called him out for his hurried vote of me after I'd fos'd him. Then I voted for him because I felt the way that if his voting after I'd fos'd was almost as if it was a Omgus vote, which is a sure scum tell as you agree.

Hurried and voted you? I don't think so. We all asked for a rational explination and you said so and so sounds right about there assumptions, oh look senfive looks suspicious. You tried to turn it away from yourself and your submarine posting and dissappeared from the thread again. thats why I voted you. Until you actually take the time, like most other people in this thread, and read up on everything that has happened and make a conclusion from your own read through instead of skimming like you always do, then maybe, just maybe I will unvote you. And give anything you say any thought at all.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:53 am

how RK can be "positive" about anything when he's rarely here is beyond me.

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:48 am

Sorry to have been away so long this weekend. As Andy said my time on the internet for the weekend is limited (especially this weekend since I was laying wood floors in my house)

After reading everything I think that Rev is the most suspicious.

I think I might know what Andy would claim but I'm not positive.

And with Nyvek he seems like he is townie to me.

And I do not suspect Senfive because of his early posts as many people have already stated.

I would feel safe voting Rev if that is what everyone else thinks. I am going to wait on a vote since I have been wrong before.

vgmmaster · Post by **vgmmaster** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:18 am

Nyvek wrote:@Andy

One thing I liked about your reply is thinking Mach was mafia at first, because I thought the same. It was mostly from him pushing the role claims. I never spotted Mason clues though.

Two questions:
1- While keeping your low profile to avoid suspicion, why would you brag about not getting lynched?

2- You stated you have an important protown role, with important information that could help us. You also stated you believe you’re a big target that may not make it through the night. If that’s true, why are you willing to risk another night of not being able to make your delivery?

I think he mentioned that he won't be lynched is people are led to believe he is very important in mafia games. They fear that if Andy is a townie, they lose a very good player and a very good voice (except for opera singing, which I hear Andy is horrible at)

For not releasing his info yet (even after he realized he may be killed tonight) seems a bit suspicious to me. Perhaps Andy is mafia (and perhaps he is a godfather which leads to the possibility of him having nightkill immunity).

I'm not going to vote Andy because it's just a theory and there's no proof that I'm right, but he does deserve at least a FOS in my opinion.

FOS: Andy

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:22 pm

I agree with vgm and moz- Andy is still not to be trusted in my opinion, but I think there are a lot of candidates who would be better to lynch in the time being. However, the simple fact that Andy is still alive might indicate that he is mafia. As he said (and xenhu pointed out in the beginning), Andy is a pretty big target...I know that if I was mafia I would want to kill Andy/mach/wicked as early as possible, assuming they were all townies. So my suspicion about him lingers.

But I also agree with moz, senfive, wicked and everyone else saying that RK seems rather scummy and at the very least not helpful to the town. The two replacements will most likely be worthless, but I'm willing to give them a chance to catch up since they are at an inherent disadvantage. Sam Jam, RK and trestain are all people I would prefer to vote for before Andy, senfive, the replacements or anyone else. At least at this juncture, assuming no new evidence comes out. We have about 1 day left to decide for this lynch though,and I would like to hear from others still before voting for RK (as that seems to be the way most people are leaning).

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:27 pm

However Andy- if you do want to state that clue about Master Bush's first investigation, it might be more interesting for me to say what I think the clue is. But I'll have to wait and see how you feel about that.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:44 pm

well if this clue clears a townie, by all means share it. you're not giving up a power role - mafia would already know which of us are town anyway.

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:17 pm

Well looks like RK is going to go unless someone else comes up with a compelling argument against someone else.

Do you have any reason for us not to lynch you RK?

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:24 pm

wicked wrote:well if this clue clears a townie, by all means share it. you're not giving up a power role - mafia would already know which of us are town anyway.

I think it only clears the person by giving away a power role. And as Andy said, the person has not been in much danger, hence the problem with revealing it.