Game Page Layout - new proposal! [First Post]

[the.killing.44]

Keep the rank where it was please.

[K-dub]

its best the way it already is

[Ffraid]

Definitely better. I had to scroll down to get that information from the game log anyway, so this works for me.

[tubaman]

Keep the rank where it was please.

Yeah I agree I like the rank where it is in the current format. Everything else is good though.

[Nephilim]

would it be possible to get the BOB coders to help us solve this problem?

those of us who use BOB don't need the new table that has been created....so could the table be recreated so that a new BOB version would remove it (optional of course)? that way, i wouldn't have a smaller map in the current format, and i also wouldn't have a doubled up table just below the map in the proposed format.

peace

[your destroyer]

I don't understand what everyone is talking about.....the turn indicators are still there for me, infact everything is the same except I now have stats listed on the right side of the screen by the players names. I love this new addition, I don't have to scroll for anything......I think the only fair and the best answer to this question is to make it an [url]OPTION[/url] in players game settings that way everyone is happy.

Thanks for listening to my input.

[the.killing.44]

I don't understand what everyone is talking about.....the turn indicators are still there for me

That was an old [url]ISSUE[/url].

[Bruceswar]

While I like it, can we have rank and ratings also there please. Then it will be super nice.

[AIGuy]

put it...on the top?

You'd only have to scroll down once. It's look tacky, though.

[drwho1979]

Much better, Lack.

I have another suggestion, while we're changing this one.

With the stats added, the game log becomes much less important, and users are far less likely to look at it. It should still be there, but the Game Chat, in my opinion, is a more valuable tool now. Would it be possible to simply switch the order of the two? So that as you scroll down, you hit Game Stats, then Game Chat, and then Game Log?

I think this would increase the use of the chat and many users would appreciate it being more accessible.

I highly agree,
I believe this would give the player a better feel while playing....
more so while playing team games,
but still over this form of a layout would be very user appealing!!!

[Keredrex]

not sure if this was already mentioned..... i still think there is alot of wasted space below the player names. even if there were 8 players. why not place the game info there. game type, fortifications, etc. that would save some vertical space and the horizontal space would not change at all. but, leave the Spoil "cards" directly below the map above the attack buttons. as for the statistics the way you have it works either way.

[fumandomuerte]

Is it possible to make something like this?
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3362/hidemenu.gif

[AndyDufresne]

Is it possible to make something like this?
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3362/hidemenu.gif

Lack has thought about a hide-able navigation left panel---but since he plans on doing the re-design in 2010, he doesn't want to have "wasted work" --- that would essentially need to be recoded/changed for the whole site-wide redesign.


--Andy

[spiesr]

those of us who use BOB don't need the new table that has been created....so could the table be recreated so that a new BOB version would remove it (optional of course)? that way, i wouldn't have a smaller map in the current format, and i also wouldn't have a doubled up table just below the map in the proposed format.

BOB 4.9.8 can remove the current table already...

[Phatscotty]

I think the counter should be on the top, pretty much only need to look at it once, then you can scroll down and it will be just like before, no need to scroll up again unless you are double checking

[Georgerx7di]

I like the new proposal. One thing though, and I'm sure this has been posted already. I would like to see the troops and regions switched. Basically, the closer it is to bob, the easier we will get used to it. I'm getting used to the current one also, so leaving it might not be that bad either. But, troops and regions should definitely switch.

[Dako]

I like it basically, but I think the rank should stay at the right of the page (how it was before). Just add the stats below. And yes, can we please configure if we want them to be seen or not in options?

[jleonnn]

Well, looks like the log's going down below

[skeletonboy]

You could have it so that the ststistics box is minimisable so that players who dont like it dont have to see it. Otherwise its a good idea.

[yeti_c]

I voted NO...

Because this is a poor mans quick fix...

A full redesign would be a far superior idea - instead of just a "move it here cos the masses whinge" fix...

C.

[lackattack]

With the stats added, the game log becomes much less important, and users are far less likely to look at it. It should still be there, but the Game Chat, in my opinion, is a more valuable tool now. Would it be possible to simply switch the order of the two? So that as you scroll down, you hit Game Stats, then Game Chat, and then Game Log?

I think this would increase the use of the chat and many users would appreciate it being more accessible.

I agree the Game Chat needs more visibility. We once ran a poll to see if people prefer chat or log on top, and the results was not decisive. Perhaps after this change we could run a new poll. Also, there is a pending suggestion for a new chat message indicator that I have my eye on...

i still think there is alot of wasted space below the player names. even if there were 8 players. why not place the game info there. game type, fortifications, etc. that would save some vertical space and the horizontal space would not change at all. but, leave the Spoil "cards" directly below the map above the attack buttons. as for the statistics the way you have it works either way.

It is a catch 22. On long maps like Indochina there is wasted space. On the other hand, on small Classic Shapes with 8 player doubles, you would have to scroll up and down a lot more for each attack if we stuck more info under the players list and that would be annoying.

obliterationX on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:57 pm

Make it an option from the Game Settings menu?

Game Page stats "right of the map"; "below the map"; or "off"?

I dont understand lack why you ignore this, first you need to create this option:
>Game Statistic Off<---->Game Statistic On<

then we can talk abouth other parameters,because many people want to disabled this option,and many other want to have this option. I dont need this option and i will want to disabled game statistic.

I really don't see the need for hiding the stats. Those who already have stats with BOB can hide Conquer Club's stats with the latest version of BOB. To be honest, I suspect anyone else who still wants it hidden after we improve the layout just doesn't like change and will get used to it. I think it is a bad idea to fill up the Game Settings page with options for hiding all the features that some people needed time to appreciate (there has been quite few).

But, troops and regions should definitely switch.

What is the advantage to switching troops and regions asides from being the way BOB prints it?

Keep the rank where it was please.

Yeah I agree I like the rank where it is in the current format. Everything else is good though.

My reasoning is to show in the player list only what is immediately necessary to interpret the map, and print the rest of the details in the Statistics section. So then I figured the highest priority items you must know is:

* who is what colour
* who already played and is playing (think freestyle speed games)
* how many spoils (think escalating spoils)

Everything else like rank and region count are nice extras that you can refer to occasionally. Even though we listed ranks and ratings before this update, they could make the usernames and assassin targets wrap and look messy on 1024x768 resolution, which the website supports. So, unless there is a good reason to keep them above the fold, it is advantageous to print them below.

I voted NO...

Because this is a poor mans quick fix...

A full redesign would be a far superior idea - instead of just a "move it here cos the masses whinge" fix...

I figured some people are voting that way. I will do a full redesign but the soonest I can get it done is in a few months. Let's settle on a quick fix I can implement this week, no?

[waseemalim]

I voted NO...

Because this is a poor mans quick fix...

A full redesign would be a far superior idea - instead of just a "move it here cos the masses whinge" fix...

C.

hear hear.

[elmerfudd]

i like the chat and log to be more on top the other stuff can be more on bottom

[yeti_c]

I voted NO...

Because this is a poor mans quick fix...

A full redesign would be a far superior idea - instead of just a "move it here cos the masses whinge" fix...

I figured some people are voting that way. I will do a full redesign but the soonest I can get it done is in a few months. Let's settle on a quick fix I can implement this week, no?

Seems fair.

C.

[WidowMakers]

I think we should have a poll as to who uses what resolution. Perhaps only very few use something that small.

A poll is ok, but that would only hit up us forum-goers...which is a small minority of the site.

For what it's worth, I use 1280x1024.

I am sure lack could PM all active users.