Lunar War [GP, G, X] files on p.1

[natty dread]

Wow, thanks mr. baron! That's very helpful. You don't by any chance know where 13 would have landed if it had landed?

[AndyDufresne]

I have a feeling almost all the information you need about Nasa missions can be found at nasa.gov (It's a good website)


--Andy

[sully800]

One of the most notable features of the moon is craters, which happen to be the perfect shape and a good size for army shadows...

[natty dread]

One of the most notable features of the moon is craters, which happen to be the perfect shape and a good size for army shadows...

Not a bad idea...

[isaiah40]

I just went through NASA's site and couldn't find anything on Apollo 13. I guess it is back to Googling! As for the font, I'm not crazy about any of them. I'll post something this weekend with some of the fonts I have. In the meantime natty, if you want to get a rough draft up that would be great. I wouldn't make the moon any bigger just make the canvas area the 840x800 so that we can put the legend and game play instructions in. Use the first pic you have as a guide for the territories.

I'll continue to find out where Apollo 13 was supposed to have landed. I'll get back with you on which army circle/oval/rectangle/square I like better. I will also see if I can find a moon map that has a few more names on it.

Edit: I like the top right Army rectangle since it seems to fit the theme we're going after. I say let's roll with that one!

[natty dread]

OK, gotcha... It's 6 am and I've been working on my Nordic Countries map all night, so I think I'll sleep a bit and then start working on drawing the moon, with fresh brains...

[RedBaron0]

Apollo 13 was supposed to land in the Fra Mauro highlands, same as where Apollo 14 eventually landed. 14 basically took over 13's mission.

Bit of trivia I know(no google, scouts honor) Apollo 13 launched on April 11th, 1970 at 1:13 local time(13:13 military time) If you write the date in number form (4-11-70) the numbers when added together equal 13. (4+1+1+7+0=13) No mission in NASA's history had ever held the designation "13" the previous program, Gemini only got to 12. On 13th, the day before the the mission was due to land on the moon a explosion rocked the spacecraft. Ironically the attempt at a reverse black cat the mission by laughing in the face of the unlucky #13, backfired... It is unknown the exact cause of the explosion during trans-lunar insertion, but most attribute the explosion to a shorted wire that sparked near the oxygen tanks causing an explosion when Jack Swigert flipped the switch to "stir" the oxygen tanks.

[natty dread]

Thanks for the info baron! So, I guess we'll only have 6 apollo landing sites then. I guess we'll add Russia and China there somewhere...

[isaiah40]

Thank you RB0 for that good info!!

6 Apollo landing sites is okay, besides we'll have to have room for the other 3 countries. Maybe we should only show the last two Apollo sites? Then we would have room for the other 6 landing sites. 2 each for Russia, China and Japan. That would give us the 8 starting positions we need.

[natty dread]

Hm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't there be more than 8 starting points? If you had for example 16 starting points coded, then in 8 player game each would get 2 starting points, and in 3 player games each would get 5....

If I'm right about that, then I see no reason to limit the number of starting points to 8 just because 8 is the maximum number of players...

I'd say, 6 apollo sites + china, japan & russia = 9 starting points, if that's possible with the XML.

Or, 6 apollo sites + 2 each for others = 15 starting points. Why not?

ps. I haven't got much done on the moon image today. I was going to, but I got so busy with the nordic countries again... I guess you could say that map is in a critical phase at the moment.

Tomorrow I'll only work on the moon map, until I get a draft done. I promise.

[isaiah40]

Hm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't there be more than 8 starting points? If you had for example 16 starting points coded, then in 8 player game each would get 2 starting points, and in 3 player games each would get 5....

If I'm right about that, then I see no reason to limit the number of starting points to 8 just because 8 is the maximum number of players...

I'd say, 6 apollo sites + china, japan & russia = 9 starting points, if that's possible with the XML.

Or, 6 apollo sites + 2 each for others = 15 starting points. Why not?

ps. I haven't got much done on the moon image today. I was going to, but I got so busy with the nordic countries again... I guess you could say that map is in a critical phase at the moment.

Tomorrow I'll only work on the moon map, until I get a draft done. I promise.

Well duh! You're right, I don't know what I was thinking!! Yes 2 staring points would be a good idea. I'd say go with the 16 starting points. If I can only find a good image of the dark side with names of craters and such, we could do the WHOLE moon! I'll keep looking. That way we can spread the starting points out.

[natty dread]

Hmm... All dark side territories could have a -1 decay because astronauts will stumble in the darkness... but there would also be some real good bonuses on the dark side

[Evil DIMwit]

Hmm... All dark side territories could have a -1 decay because astronauts will stumble in the darkness... but there would also be some real good bonuses on the dark side

Y'know, the 'Dark Side' isn't much darker than the Light Side. It's just the hemisphere facing away from Earth -- each point still spends about half of its time exposed the sun and half of its time not. The far side only corresponds to the actual dark hemisphere once a month, during a full moon.

[isaiah40]

Here's a link that has some landing sites on, not just the Apollo landings. We could use a couple of these. Hmmm ... not what I just read. Follow the link.

[natty dread]

Yeah, those landing sites would definitely be useful.

[natty dread]

Ok, just to show what I've got so far... this is by no means finished yet, but it's a start.

Click image to enlarge.

[isaiah40]

Looks good, I like it. Don't forget we're going to need room for the legend and such. DO you think on the next version you can make put the canvas up to 840x800 and then center the moon top middle. Then the legend can go on the bottom. We can put the title across the top, kind of like my rough draft. Just an idea.

[natty dread]

Looks good, I like it. Don't forget we're going to need room for the legend and such. DO you think on the next version you can make put the canvas up to 840x800 and then center the moon top middle. Then the legend can go on the bottom. We can put the title across the top, kind of like my rough draft. Just an idea.

Yeah, I'll do that.

Hey, about the territories... so we're going with these on this image?

Click image to enlarge.

Could you start designing the gameplay, like the connections of the territories, bonus areas, and places for army circles, and mark them on top of this image? I could then use the image as a guide to draw the territories on the map.

[natty dread]

OK I couldn't resist posting this. Here's what I've got so far. It's not quite a working draft yet so I'm not posting it on the first post...

Click image to enlarge.

To do:
- choose another font for the territory names. This one didn't work out as well as I thought (too hard to tell r:s from p:s)
- connections (for craters), borders (for seas)
- mountains
- legend
- background. I was thinking of stars...

[fumandomuerte]

Don't forget to include R. Daneel Olivaw's secret moon base !
Nah, seriously, I love the moon idea, I hope to keep track over the progress on this one.

[AndyDufresne]

Like the font title, but not so much it anywhere else on the map...


--Andy

[natty dread]

Yeah it was already decided to change it.

[natty dread]

Here's the latest:

Click image to enlarge.

Isaiah: we need to work out the bonus system. PM me with ideas. If you have a plan ready, then use this image to mark it down and pm it to me...

Also: I left all the territory names the same colour, so they'll be easy to recolour. We can use the text colour to indicate bonus areas, if we are going to use bonus areas...

Also, I left the landing site labels the old font, it somehow seems to fit them.

[ender516]

This is looking pretty good, but the R in the font on those Russian landing sites is awful. I know it's an R, but my eyes keep saying "P.".

Have you dropped the Chinese from this? I would think that the taikonauts would be there before the Japanese.

If you want more landing sites, you could go with unmanned hard and soft landers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing
and the cancelled Apollo 18, 19, and 20 missions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canceled_Apollo_missions.

[isaiah40]

This is looking pretty good, but the R in the font on those Russian landing sites is awful. I know it's an R, but my eyes keep saying "P.".

Have you dropped the Chinese from this? I would think that the taikonauts would be there before the Japanese.

If you want more landing sites, you could go with unmanned hard and soft landers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing
and the cancelled Apollo 18, 19, and 20 missions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canceled_Apollo_missions.

Thank you ender! Yes natty is going to change the font. We are adding in the Chinese as well as well as a couple of other items. Natty should be posting the new version later today, I'm gathering!