Re: RAIL ASIA [1.11.12] QUENCHED

[cairnswk]

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BTK is a tad too close to SIN, it insinuates a connection and I think it might be best if relocated some to the right.

Yes, i'll move that out some.

The letters labeling the rail lines are tough on the eyes at that font style in that size.

I guess you're talking about the letters in the legend, if so i'll fix.

I wonder if having the two main stations so close to each other is a good idea. Hong Kong might be a better option if you're willing to relocate the Japan link and i think it would balance the map out much better. Though you'll have to move the Philippines east a little bit.

To make this map slightly different again from the other rail maps, i was wondering about having that third terminus.
Hong Kong makes for one option as you mentioned, and i'm still thinking on ways to achieve that...it's just that China occupies such a large space geographically.

[captainwalrus]

In the other rail maps there are some cities that belong to 2 rail lines, but there is only one actuall station, but here all the cities with multiple lines going through have multiple stations.
Also, the shadow sort of thing on all the land, look really odd on most of the islands in south pasific, it looks too large. Perhaps shorten it, cause so they don't stick up so much.

[gho]

I think you should get rid of Indonesia and the Phillipines. Theyre rail systems arent connected to the rest of the continent, and most of them aren't even connected together mostly (not like Japan with their rail tunnels). The rail systems in these nations aren't valued for their quality anyway.

[cairnswk]

In the other rail maps there are some cities that belong to 2 rail lines, but there is only one actuall station, but here all the cities with multiple lines going through have multiple stations.

Yes...that's true...do you any suggestions as at where these might be good.

Also, the shadow sort of thing on all the land, look really odd on most of the islands in south pasific, it looks too large. Perhaps shorten it, cause so they don't stick up so much.

OK, consider done.

[cairnswk]

I think you should get rid of Indonesia and the Phillipines. Theyre rail systems arent connected to the rest of the continent, and most of them aren't even connected together mostly (not like Japan with their rail tunnels). The rail systems in these nations aren't valued for their quality anyway.

Thanks for your comments gho...
I agree those two countries' rail systems aren't like Japan's, but i think the rail systems in those countries aren't as important because overall the countries are much poorer.
That doesn't mean of course that we can't represent them here, and in fact i'd like to keep them because they help balance the map somewhat and allow for extra small regions that players can target to help get them started.

[captainwalrus]

there is a Russian(a) rail line in between NVK and AST, but no A station station in AST. Why not add AST to the A line and have that station as a A and B station?
Also, there are some other cities where merging 2 stations into one would be good.
Cairo- it would make the Arabian and Ottoman lines flow together, and increase the importance of Cairo since it would be necessary for holding 2 bonuses.
ULB- it is the end of one line and the beginning of another, it would be unlikely that they would have 2 different stations in that city which would make it hard for people to go right through. IT would make it flow better and make it easier for players to move from east to west in the northern part of the map.

[cairnswk]

there is a Russian(a) rail line in between NVK and AST, but no A station station in AST. Why not add AST to the A line and have that station as a A and B station?
Also, there are some other cities where merging 2 stations into one would be good.
Cairo- it would make the Arabian and Ottoman lines flow together, and increase the importance of Cairo since it would be necessary for holding 2 bonuses.
ULB- it is the end of one line and the beginning of another, it would be unlikely that they would have 2 different stations in that city which would make it hard for people to go right through. IT would make it flow better and make it easier for players to move from east to west in the northern part of the map.

OK, i see what you mean, so we have
CAI
AST
ULB
...what about RGP and KUN also to balance the map, you know two each side?

[cairnswk]

Version 5.
1. Implemented single stations at CAI, AST, ULB, KUN
2. Added the New Delhi to Karachi line

[captainwalrus]

Yes, KUN works well. I like it.

[cairnswk]

Yes, KUN works well. I like it.

Excellent, thanks captainwalrus. Notice also the shadows on the continent have been lessened.

Any other suggestion?

[isaiah40]

Just a nit-pick cairns, the Philippino line in the legend needs to be changed to 'M' from 'L'. What do those two bonuses in the lower right go to. Are they the transcontinental lines you had but removed?

Good work! cheers!

[cairnswk]

Just a nit-pick cairns, the Philippino line in the legend needs to be changed to 'M' from 'L'. What do those two bonuses in the lower right go to. Are they the transcontinental lines you had but removed?

Good work! cheers!

All fixed and explained on map.
Please F5 to see changes above.

[thenobodies80]

[ Moved ]

On vacation under mapmaker request

can i have this map placed on vacation in the Dead Bin Projects please.

[isaiah40]

[ Moved ]

On vacation under mapmaker request

can i have this map placed on vacation in the Dead Bin Projects please.

Man, and just as I was getting into this map

[cairnswk]

[ Moved ]

On vacation under mapmaker request

can i have this map placed on vacation in the Dead Bin Projects please.

Man, and just as I was getting into this map

Isaiah40. i'm sorry, but this may be pulled out later from the Vacation Bin.
But it seems there is not enough support yet.....perhaps there will be more support after the Rail Africa map has run it's time.
I have not given up on this yet.

[captainwalrus]

I await its triumphant return!

[ender516]

As do I. I know I saw that it had been started, but since I hadn't posted to it, and I have been following a lot of topics through "View your posts", I lost track of it until today. Still it's a great start. However the red text in the legend for the Russian line has the same legibility problems as it had on Rail Africa. (Perhaps it's too early for graphical nitpicking.)

[Bruceswar]

Bring this map back please!

[cairnswk]

Bring this map back please!

Bruceswar....i'd be happy to re-start this, if i knew there was going to be some support for it.
If you can drum up some support, then you'll convince me

[isaiah40]

Well, you do have my support cairns!! Please do start this up again!!

[cairnswk]

Well, you do have my support cairns!! Please do start this up again!!

thanks isaiah40...
I will also want some extra space "supersize" for this one, only 60 extra at the bottom so that it becomes 630w x 660h...that station is fine but it needs people and other scenery at the bottom to make it come alove as did Rail Africa after i put that background in.

So if you will get this out into the foundry as soon as Trafalgar is Beta (can't have mnore than two maps) and lets determine if there is enough support for it to continue.

[isaiah40]

Well, you do have my support cairns!! Please do start this up again!!

thanks isaiah40...
I will also want some extra space "supersize" for this one, only 60 extra at the bottom so that it becomes 630w x 660h...that station is fine but it needs people and other scenery at the bottom to make it come alove as did Rail Africa after i put that background in.

Yes you can go the extra 60px!

[gimil]

Bring this map back please!

Bruceswar....i'd be happy to re-start this, if i knew there was going to be some support for it.
If you can drum up some support, then you'll convince me

Uft, go on cairns! Do it.

[cairnswk]

Bring this map back please!

Bruceswar....i'd be happy to re-start this, if i knew there was going to be some support for it.
If you can drum up some support, then you'll convince me

Uft, go on cairns! Do it.

thanks also gimil.

you know, if i threw a few sections into China India and Russia, we could almost have the basis of another excellent Asia map itself.

[Victor Sullivan]

IMO, there would really have to be something fresh and different from the other Rail maps, as we have plenty, I'd say.

I think there are better binned ideas to pursue, like Spanish Armada and CC's Treasure Island

This is not to say, though, that I necessarily disapprove this.

-Sully