PBplaya and Mung [closed]

[pie12345]

could he send an e-ticket

[nippersean]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

said same thing

What if you joined a game thinking you were playing a pfc with 15 games experience.
But in reality your opponent is a colonel with 2,000 games under a previous identity

[darkangelsguy205]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

said same thing

What if you joined a game thinking you were playing a pfc with 15 games experience.
But in reality your opponent is a colonel with 2,000 games under a previous identity

sucks for you

[Hsur]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

said same thing

What if you joined a game thinking you were playing a pfc with 15 games experience.
But in reality your opponent is a colonel with 2,000 games under a previous identity

sucks for you

So, dark, your saying it's ok to cheat?

[darkangelsguy205]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

said same thing

What if you joined a game thinking you were playing a pfc with 15 games experience.
But in reality your opponent is a colonel with 2,000 games under a previous identity

sucks for you

So, dark, your saying it's ok to cheat?

no im not. I'm saying that if you are not useing an acount its nor really that bad

[jefjef]

IT'S STILL MORE THAN ONE ACCOUNT. That's an issue. I applaud him for admitting to having been here before but when he made the new account he had to check the box stating that he did not and would not have any other accounts. And it's BS that that CC wasn't contacted. There is a way to do that.

It's also really hard to believe that he has no idea what the user name was.

[gollygee]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

said same thing

What if you joined a game thinking you were playing a pfc with 15 games experience.
But in reality your opponent is a colonel with 2,000 games under a previous identity

munq supplied the info about his previous account voluntarily. i think if he had anything to hide or was trying to pull one on you he wouldn't have done that.

[40kguy]

i have already seen one of theese, he has a two accounts he is done, good bye, he is busted end of story let the mods take care of it now

[Fuzzylogic99]

Does Munq's 9th grade account have anything to do with the controversy about him and Pbplaya? Maybe he could find a way to delete that account (i don't know how since he doesn't remember the info for it) and everyone can stop worrying about it? I'd like to see the issue of secret diplomacy between munq and pbplaya resolved because i know them in real life and part of the reason i joined this site was that i wanted to play risk with the two of them.

I realize there is little documented online to support what i am saying, but i would like to think that what i have to say as a "witness" will be taken into account:

me, munq, pbplaya, and sarabdelasovejas all go to the same school and we like to play games together on CC. if you check out our game records, you will see that munq and pbplaya have played multiple games with me and sarabdelasovejas as well. there are a lot of games with the two of them because they are roommates and are usually sitting about 5 feet away from each other when deciding which games to join. thus it is easy for them to play together, which they like to do because they are friends, not co-conspirators or a single entity. I have often witnessed them both take turns in cc games and neither has ever done or said anything to make me believe they are protecting eachothers' backs or targeting other players. they are both competitive and they like to beat each other as much as they like beating other people.

the four of us often play from the same IP addresses: either their dorm or my house. but i promise you on my honor i am not the same person as any of them!! we are people who frequent the same places. i am offering up myself as an example of someone who repeatedly plays games with friends from the same IP address but is not part of a conspiracy. there exist many people who communicate on the internet who are real life friends too!

I just don't think that the evidence is strong enough to ban them from the site. It upsets me that someone can get in trouble or be accused of cheating for wanting to play games with their friends. yes, they have won some of the games they play together. why does this imply trickery? they both had good strategies and played hard. AND, it's not like either of them are winning a strong percentage of the time! munq won 2 games. pbplaya won 1! doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

anyway, i'm saying this because i'd be sad to see them banned from this site. i can understand you guys wanting to protect yourselves from secret diplomacy, cheating is sh*tty, but i also think that players should be innocent before proven guilty. i don't think munq and pbplaya should have to avoid playing together out of fear that someone will be bitter about losing, see that munq and pbplaya are friends, and accuse them of being cheaters. they both like playing against other people, but one of the reasons they joined the site was to duke it out between the two of them (and against me and their other friends at school) as well. I just hope no one ever decides that because i like playing against them i'm a cheater too. that would suck. i hope you guys will make the right decision.

if it is giving the player an unfair advantage as it is in this situation than yes it is cheating
Since the games are FOW if PB or Munq knows each other position while the other players
dont it gives them an unfair advantage.What worse is than Munq seems to allow PB to
gain an unfair advantge in several games.I mean he or she does not break PB's bonuses
This is obvious by reading the game log.

I believe they are not multi but I think theres pretty strong evidence for a secret alliance
I dont thin that they should get banned but Im not so sure about them playing together in games.We shall see what the Mods think

Honestly I have no hard feeling toward them....I just want to meke sure they dont take advantage of other players if they are cheating.And no Im not upset bc I am losing.
Any I wish the best to all involved

[Fuzzylogic99]

well i cant remember all my users names.I play alot of games at different site so if I dont play that acount for awhile I forget.I sometimes forget i played there.I believe him or her when Munq says that he or she forgot the accont name .Still he or she needed to contact the site or atleast try to find out if this was legal to do

[pbplaya142]

How do you know that we looked at each others fog of war maps during the game??

We actually keep the computer out of sight from each other while we're viewing our FOW games. If we didn't we would have an unfair advantage against each other as well. I have no way of proving this but you have no way of proving that we look at each others games. Why would I show him where I was if I'm fighting against him as well? So should people that live together just not play FOW games together? That doesn't seem very fair.

This thread is full of such bureaucratic nonsense. A lot of you would make fantastic, inefficient politicians.

[Hsur]

said same thing

What if you joined a game thinking you were playing a pfc with 15 games experience.
But in reality your opponent is a colonel with 2,000 games under a previous identity

sucks for you

So, dark, your saying it's ok to cheat?

no im not. I'm saying that if you are not useing an acount its nor really that bad

Well, the rules state, even if your not using the other account it's still illegal.
So by you saying it's not that bad, your saying it's ok to cheat.

[Munq]

if an account is not being used and is clearly abandoned why brand that person as a multi? its a rather anal way of looking at this dont you think?

said same thing

What if you joined a game thinking you were playing a pfc with 15 games experience.
But in reality your opponent is a colonel with 2,000 games under a previous identity

If you're really only picking games you think you can win because the other player looks weak, you need to realize that the only way to get better is to play all kinds of players, so it shouldn't matter. Getting the shit kicked out of you can be a great learning experience.

And, yes, my old account was back before I had cemented one single internet username, as I have done now. So that's why I don't remember.

[Hsur]

And, yes, my old account was back before I had cemented one single internet username, as I have done now. So that's why I don't remember.

Do you remember what e-mail address you used when you set your old account up?

[Munq]

And, yes, my old account was back before I had cemented one single internet username, as I have done now. So that's why I don't remember.

Do you remember what e-mail address you used when you set your old account up?

Yes, and I have already reported it to a mod, thanks.

[king sam]

Just to let you know this thread has gotten mod attention, and is being looked at. Players are allowed to play with family members/roommates where the same IP scheme is used. We have our ways of telling if its more then 1 player on the same IP scheme or 1 player claiming that and in actuality having multies.

Obviously one account and one account only is allowed, and this issue will come up in the ruling of Mung as well as us looking at the diplomacy between the 4 users that are friends. If there is enough evidence to suggest an unfair advantage being made from an unsaid thing then you all know what will happen.

Please give us some time, as we are investigating this further to give this a resolution that is concise and good for the whole community.

King Sam

[Fuzzylogic99]

great.....I rather you get this right than rush and the wrong decision is made and they get punish for no reason.Keep up the good work

[king sam]

great.....I rather you get this right than rush and the wrong decision is made and they get punish for no reason.Keep up the good work

wait.. aren't we always right?

[king achilles]

pbplaya142 is cleared of being a multi with Munq, and the Munq account has already been inactivated. Now as for a possible secret diplomacy, if you were not able to rate them accordingly for that game, this report has at least been noted for future reference. The statement below where they all go to the same school is quite legitimate.

me, munq, pbplaya, and sarabdelasovejas all go to the same school and we like to play games together on CC......

the four of us often play from the same IP addresses: either their dorm or my house. but i promise you on my honor i am not the same person as any of them!!