Politcal Correctness (FBI/DOD could have stopped Fort Hood)

[Phatscotty]

Obviously the 2 who voted for conservatism were liberals!

Goddamit Jay, stop being such an obvious tool.

nah it's 1 liberal with multiple accounts

[Snorri1234]

Maybe I should specify. I think it's a "necessary evil" for politicians/public figures because people are always going to take offense to the dumbest things and blow them out of proportion. I have been called racist IRL when I make innocent comments before thinking about how they can be construed as offensive. The other day I went into an Arab friend's room and the clock was ticking loudly so I made a time bomb joke and everyone was like ooooh... and then I realized how it was offensive. I'M NOT RACIST, THEY ARE FOR INTERPRETING IT THAT WAY. I SHOULDN'T NEED A FILTER ON EVERYTHING I SAY BECAUSE OF THESE BIGOTS. /rant

Now I know you're not all that bright, but honestly you had to think before you'd realise that comment would be offensive?

Really though, how long will it be before Holiday Trees and Developmentally Delayed People and Little People and FirePeople get forced upon us? Don't tell me that's "respecting other people" you dumbass, that's trampling our rights.

This is going to happen very soon. Ever since only about 5% of the American people was christian it was bound to happen.


OW SHIT WAIT! I THOUGHT YOU WERE AN INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEING INSTEAD OF SOME WEIRD-ASS FOXNEWS MACHINE WHICH SPOUTS OUT RANDOM TOPICS!

[Woodruff]

stop this garbage. Its no ta trap. stop fucking styaing stupid shit about peopel. For the love go fal god. slurs arent cooo,, stop saying them. You arent interswting or intelligent or anyting. Stop thinkking your better because youarent. Be accountable for hstio. No one is taking ovg your life because of this political correctinons crap. If you cant talk like a reasonable adult you dersrve to get what the f*ck comes to dyou, its not the 19th centruyt.

got tonkaed, have you been taken over by the demon targetman?

[hecter]

stop this garbage. Its no ta trap. stop fucking styaing stupid shit about peopel. For the love go fal god. slurs arent cooo,, stop saying them. You arent interswting or intelligent or anyting. Stop thinkking your better because youarent. Be accountable for hstio. No one is taking ovg your life because of this political correctinons crap. If you cant talk like a reasonable adult you dersrve to get what the f*ck comes to dyou, its not the 19th centruyt.

got tonkaed, have you been taken over by the demon targetman?

I believe it was the Vodka Angel, actually.

[jbrettlip]

I think it is stupid that groups of people demand to be called a certain term. Don't get me wrong, I am not against them prohibiting being called by slurs. But when Black became African American, and American Indian became Native American...I just don't see the point. How would someone classify Lennox Lewis? Is he black, or is there a category of African British? Why does the US have these problems and other countries don't? Or do other countries deal with this? Please let me know.

[Phatscotty]

I think it is stupid that groups of people demand to be called a certain term. Don't get me wrong, I am not against them prohibiting being called by slurs. But when Black became African American, and American Indian became Native American...I just don't see the point. How would someone classify Lennox Lewis? Is he black, or is there a category of African British? Why does the US have these problems and other countries don't? Or do other countries deal with this? Please let me know.

because of....political correctness? hehe well I think the dash/american terminology was started to categorize americans while still keeping the word american in the phrase. probably meant as a uniting strategy.

[beezer]

I think it is stupid that groups of people demand to be called a certain term. Don't get me wrong, I am not against them prohibiting being called by slurs. But when Black became African American, and American Indian became Native American...I just don't see the point. How would someone classify Lennox Lewis? Is he black, or is there a category of African British? Why does the US have these problems and other countries don't? Or do other countries deal with this? Please let me know.

I agree with you. People are so mixed racially that there's no real way to assign a label anymore. At least in America it's that way.

[radiojake]

I think it is stupid that groups of people demand to be called a certain term. Don't get me wrong, I am not against them prohibiting being called by slurs. But when Black became African American, and American Indian became Native American...I just don't see the point. How would someone classify Lennox Lewis? Is he black, or is there a category of African British? Why does the US have these problems and other countries don't? Or do other countries deal with this? Please let me know.

Maybe 'Africian American' seemed more empowering after centuries of being called 'black' or 'nigger' - and i think (though I will stand corrected) Native American's were only called Indians because the Europeans thought they have found their way around to India (hence the 'West Indies) at first, and the name stuck. Either way, I don't see why it's stupid that certain groups of people felt compelled to name themselves, as opposed to the terms that white colonialism had decided to call them -

[pimpdave]

Political correctness was invented at McGill University in 1989.

[BigBallinStalin]

I think it is stupid that groups of people demand to be called a certain term. Don't get me wrong, I am not against them prohibiting being called by slurs. But when Black became African American, and American Indian became Native American...I just don't see the point. How would someone classify Lennox Lewis? Is he black, or is there a category of African British? Why does the US have these problems and other countries don't? Or do other countries deal with this? Please let me know.

Maybe 'Africian American' seemed more empowering after centuries of being called 'black' or 'nigger' - and i think (though I will stand corrected) Native American's were only called Indians because the Europeans thought they have found their way around to India (hence the 'West Indies) at first, and the name stuck. Either way, I don't see why it's stupid that certain groups of people felt compelled to name themselves, as opposed to the terms that white colonialism had decided to call them -

As for the term "African American," I think it's mostly just crap. There was this comedy show I saw (I think it was Wanda Sykes), and she was making fun of that term. As if simply being labeled another word will really change anything on how a race is perceived. For that reason and many others, I still use the word black--perhaps in certain essays I'll use the African-American. Why? Because some people (black and whites alike) are very sensitive about the word "black." In social settings, I'll use black because nearly everyone knows I'm not some racist bigoted prick.

What's even better is to not use either word at all, and just call someone as "this guy" or whatever. When people start inserting descriptions based on race about someone, then it allows a lot of preconceptions to kick in. Sometimes, in certain situations it's useful, and sometimes it's unnecessary.

[pmchugh]

Policitacal correctness has gone insane!!!!!!!!!

[MeDeFe]

Policitacal correctness has gone insane!!!!!!!!!

Insanity was invented at McGill University in 1872.

[Woodruff]

I think it is stupid that groups of people demand to be called a certain term. Don't get me wrong, I am not against them prohibiting being called by slurs. But when Black became African American, and American Indian became Native American...I just don't see the point. How would someone classify Lennox Lewis? Is he black, or is there a category of African British? Why does the US have these problems and other countries don't? Or do other countries deal with this? Please let me know.

I agree with you. People are so mixed racially that there's no real way to assign a label anymore. At least in America it's that way.

That's a large part of the problem...there may not be a rational, logical way to assign a label anymore...but labels WILL BE ASSIGNED, because that's the human thing to do, unfortunately. We love labels!

[Phatscotty]

CNN, which for the most part refuses to call Fort Hood Massacre terrorism, follows up every single "Hassan" story with 15 minutes of follow up from 4 US soldiers who killed innocent iraqis 3 years ago

Here is Chris Mathews and Glenn Beck having a surprising normal conversation and agreeing on the issue. politcal correctness conversation starts at about about half way through.

Chris Matthews: "Your'e great! I listen to you all the time. I think you are amazingly smart for such a young guy"

Glenn Beck: "Thank you"

[BigBallinStalin]

CNN, which for the most part refuses to call Fort Hood Massacre terrorism, follows up every single "Hassan" story with 15 minutes of follow up from 4 US soldiers who killed innocent iraqis 3 years ago

The FBI held a proper investigation and deemed at as not terrorism. They're a more reasonable bunch than you, Phat.

Political correctness is not preventing CNN from labeling the Fort Hood killing spree as terrorism; facts are.

[Phatscotty]

CNN, which for the most part refuses to call Fort Hood Massacre terrorism, follows up every single "Hassan" story with 15 minutes of follow up from 4 US soldiers who killed innocent iraqis 3 years ago

The FBI held a proper investigation and deemed at as not terrorism. They're a more reasonable bunch than you, Phat.

Political correctness is not preventing CNN from labeling the Fort Hood killing spree as terrorism; facts are.

I completely disagree. Show me your source on the officialy (ended) FBI investigation. I call Bullshit!

[Snorri1234]

While they're not completely ruling out terrorism as of yet, most official reports say it probably wasn't. Since they've established that the guy acted alone it's hard to determine the proper motive though. However, it also means that it wasn't a coordinated attack by a terrorist group.

[Phatscotty]

While they're not completely ruling out terrorism as of yet, most official reports say it probably wasn't. Since they've established that the guy acted alone it's hard to determine the proper motive though. However, it also means that it wasn't a coordinated attack by a terrorist group.

you are bending over backwards to search for an alternative reality that fits your perverted mind. It isn't there mate. It just isn't.

[Snorri1234]

While they're not completely ruling out terrorism as of yet, most official reports say it probably wasn't. Since they've established that the guy acted alone it's hard to determine the proper motive though. However, it also means that it wasn't a coordinated attack by a terrorist group.

you are bending over backwards to search for an alternative reality that fits your perverted mind. It isn't there mate. It just isn't.

OH SHIT I AM TOTALLY DOING THAT! I AM CURRENTLY GIVING A FLYING f*ck WHETHER IT'S TERRORISM OR NOT!


Seriously dude, I don't give a f*ck. If you want to use this thing as a casus belli be my guest. It is not actually affecting me, in fact most of what you guys do doesn't affect me in the slightest. Why do you think I would bend over backwards to fit some political agenda?

[Phatscotty]

While they're not completely ruling out terrorism as of yet, most official reports say it probably wasn't. Since they've established that the guy acted alone it's hard to determine the proper motive though. However, it also means that it wasn't a coordinated attack by a terrorist group.

you are bending over backwards to search for an alternative reality that fits your perverted mind. It isn't there mate. It just isn't.

OH SHIT I AM TOTALLY DOING THAT! I AM CURRENTLY GIVING A FLYING f*ck WHETHER IT'S TERRORISM OR NOT!


Seriously dude, I don't give a f*ck. If you want to use this thing as a casus belli be my guest. It is not actually affecting me, in fact most of what you guys do doesn't affect me in the slightest. Why do you think I would bend over backwards to fit some political agenda?

i concur, it is somewhat related to the previous post and went unnamed. However, taking a month to figure out whether or not to call it terrorism is fucking pathetic and can't survive

[Baron Von PWN]

Of course the only two Ideologies in the world are Conservatism and Liberalism . Political correctness is just politeness.

Proud to be politically incorrect! Oh Phat you crack me up! You may as well say "proud to be racists" or "proud to be homophobic". Is it so bad to call someone a term they don't find offensive? Sure you have the right to be as much of an asshole as you want to be, doesn't mean you have to be one.

[BigBallinStalin]

CNN, which for the most part refuses to call Fort Hood Massacre terrorism, follows up every single "Hassan" story with 15 minutes of follow up from 4 US soldiers who killed innocent iraqis 3 years ago

The FBI held a proper investigation and deemed at as not terrorism. They're a more reasonable bunch than you, Phat.

Political correctness is not preventing CNN from labeling the Fort Hood killing spree as terrorism; facts are.

I completely disagree. Show me your source on the officialy (ended) FBI investigation. I call Bullshit!

Phat, I don't need to waste my time with your nonsense. Go give the FBI a call or google it yourself. You either need to drag yourself from your own ignorance or we can all just make fun of you since you're always so hell-bent on starting shit, which you most likely don't even believe yourself. And if you do, then you're truly an idiot.

[daddy1gringo]

"Political correctness" as we know it today, is pretty much a liberal thing. The conservative, right-wing equivalent would be McCarthyism, which is a dead horse.

Political correctness isn't just politeness. It's intolerance masquerading as tolerance. Let Dr. Laura Schlessinger or Dr. James Dobson express their opinion that homosexuality is an aberration and it's "Get them off the air! Pressure the stations and the sponsors!" and in Dobson's case, "try to prosecute him for an act of violence committed by some totally unconnected idiots in Texas!" Which was so insane it was scary.

For the political correctness crowd, tolerance is a one-way street. "Tolerate all points of view, as long as they agree with mine." "You can't stereotype or ridicule any group of people, unless I don't like them, like Roman Catholics, Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews..."

[spurgistan]

"Political correctness" as we know it today, is pretty much a liberal thing. The conservative, right-wing equivalent would be McCarthyism, which is a dead horse.

Political correctness isn't just politeness. It's intolerance masquerading as tolerance. Let Dr. Laura Schlessinger or Dr. James Dobson express their opinion that homosexuality is an aberration and it's "Get them off the air! Pressure the stations and the sponsors!" and in Dobson's case, "try to prosecute him for an act of violence committed by some totally unconnected idiots in Texas!" Which was so insane it was scary.

For the political correctness crowd, tolerance is a one-way street. "Tolerate all points of view, as long as they agree with mine." "You can't stereotype or ridicule any group of people, unless I don't like them, like Roman Catholics, Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews..."

Remember the Dixie Chicks? They were fun. Anyways, the point of humor ought to be to make fun of the people with the power. Also, I'm pretty sure we tolerate most different POV's that don't impugn some broad group, or have to do with violence. Tolerate and like are two very different things.

[thegreekdog]

"Political correctness" as we know it today, is pretty much a liberal thing. The conservative, right-wing equivalent would be McCarthyism, which is a dead horse.

Political correctness isn't just politeness. It's intolerance masquerading as tolerance. Let Dr. Laura Schlessinger or Dr. James Dobson express their opinion that homosexuality is an aberration and it's "Get them off the air! Pressure the stations and the sponsors!" and in Dobson's case, "try to prosecute him for an act of violence committed by some totally unconnected idiots in Texas!" Which was so insane it was scary.

For the political correctness crowd, tolerance is a one-way street. "Tolerate all points of view, as long as they agree with mine." "You can't stereotype or ridicule any group of people, unless I don't like them, like Roman Catholics, Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews..."

Remember the Dixie Chicks? They were fun. Anyways, the point of humor ought to be to make fun of the people with the power. Also, I'm pretty sure we tolerate most different POV's that don't impugn some broad group, or have to do with violence. Tolerate and like are two very different things.

Unless you're a member of that particular group that's not in power. Then you have every right to make fun of that particular group (see, e.g. Chris Rock).