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Postby Titanic on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:50 am

Flashleg, the polic raids on terrorists so far have been good. They had the one bad raid at Forest Gate, which was overblown. I mean, ok you got shot, but shut the fck up dude, its history, it was an accident. Its over a year ago, you got compensation, you were shot in the shoulder, its hardly life threatening!! They say they live in paranoia now. From what? Police raiding the house again? The report cleared the police, but he wudn bloody shut up. Its a shame they didn shoot him in the head.
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Re: Political Correctness is the end of Democracy!!

Postby unriggable on Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:44 am

jay_a2j wrote:Retail stores saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". (this however was corrected this past year 2006 after much public pressure)

Why do you say 'corrected?' I mean, technically we aren't celebrating christmas, we celebrate the holidays. By buying tons of crap.

Prayer in school.

I see no problem with not enforcing religion in schools UNLESS it's a religious school.

Searching baby strollers and the elderly in NYC subways while letting men of Arab decent go unsearched.

That's not PC, that's just stupid. Baby strollers? "Hold my baby while I set this bomb off". Nobody needs to be searched - the terrors to person-who-needs-to-take-the-subway ratio is nuts.

Donald Trumps American Flag... told to take it down. (He didn't)

What is this? Never heard of it.

The uncomprehensable drive to allow illegal immigrants to stay illegally in the US.

I don't see any problem, they are here because the alternative is horrible (ever been to Mexico City? Yeah. Thought so.)


and the list goes on..... yeah political correctness will be the downfall of the US.[/quote]
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Re: Political Correctness is the end of Democracy!!

Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:31 am

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Retail stores saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". (this however was corrected this past year 2006 after much public pressure)

Why do you say 'corrected?' I mean, technically we aren't celebrating christmas, we celebrate the holidays. By buying tons of crap.

Prayer in school.

I see no problem with not enforcing religion in schools UNLESS it's a religious school.

Searching baby strollers and the elderly in NYC subways while letting men of Arab decent go unsearched.

That's not PC, that's just stupid. Baby strollers? "Hold my baby while I set this bomb off". Nobody needs to be searched - the terrors to person-who-needs-to-take-the-subway ratio is nuts.

Donald Trumps American Flag... told to take it down. (He didn't)

What is this? Never heard of it.

The incomprehensible drive to allow illegal immigrants to stay illegally in the US.

I don't see any problem, they are here because the alternative is horrible (ever been to Mexico City? Yeah. Thought so.)


and the list goes on..... yeah political correctness will be the downfall of the US.
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The majority of Americans celebrate Christmas both Christians and those who claim no faith. It is PC when the majority have to cow-tow to the will of the minority so as to prevent "offendedness". You think Christians in Iraq got offended when Ramadan was celebrated? If you don't like the culture of the country you live in.... move.



Its not enforcing religion...it an option. Pray if you like, to whomever you like or think about the hot chick standing next to you. Your call.


Donald Trump put up a huge American Flag on his property and the town told him to take it down.


Illegal immigration. And its terrible on the streets of many American cities. So, are you going to take in the homeless to make it better for them? These immigrants are here illegally, they are breaking US law. If you don't see a problem with breaking the law then you are not the average American.
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Postby Guiscard on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:48 pm

Titanic wrote:Flashleg, the polic raids on terrorists so far have been good. They had the one bad raid at Forest Gate, which was overblown. I mean, ok you got shot, but shut the fck up dude, its history, it was an accident. Its over a year ago, you got compensation, you were shot in the shoulder, its hardly life threatening!! They say they live in paranoia now. From what? Police raiding the house again? The report cleared the police, but he wudn bloody shut up. Its a shame they didn shoot him in the head.


How would you feel if you got shot? Or your son got shot due to a police mistake...

Its not quite as simple as all that. Yes, they do a sterling job and yes they can make mistakes but Flashleg is talking a lot of sense.

Put yourself in the place of a Muslim living in a community where you often get stopped and searched, more than the white guys in the next estate (although I'm not arguing this is neccessarily wrong...). The country you live in is occupying a couple other Muslim countries, your religion is being demonised by the propogandist rhetoric of your national leaders, sensasionalist papers accuse you of preaching Jihad and wanting to chop off peoples heads all the time...

...Then the police break down the door of your innocent next door neighbour and shoot the guy. How are you gonna feel? Solidarity with the state or excluded and alienated, more willing to listen to the extremeist babblings of a local Imam who before you saw as divisive and harmful.

Plus we're now allowing detention without charge, which had been legally outlawed since the early 19th Century (and look what happened last time: Radficalism, Peterloo, the Plug riots etc. etc.)

I'll be the first to praise the Police for their action in foiling terror plots, and the whole country responded admirably after the July bombings but we can't get carried away and gradually corode our civil liberties.
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Re: Political Correctness is the end of Democracy!!

Postby heavycola on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:55 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Retail stores saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". (this however was corrected this past year 2006 after much public pressure)

Why do you say 'corrected?' I mean, technically we aren't celebrating christmas, we celebrate the holidays. By buying tons of crap.

Prayer in school.

I see no problem with not enforcing religion in schools UNLESS it's a religious school.

Searching baby strollers and the elderly in NYC subways while letting men of Arab decent go unsearched.

That's not PC, that's just stupid. Baby strollers? "Hold my baby while I set this bomb off". Nobody needs to be searched - the terrors to person-who-needs-to-take-the-subway ratio is nuts.

Donald Trumps American Flag... told to take it down. (He didn't)

What is this? Never heard of it.

The incomprehensible drive to allow illegal immigrants to stay illegally in the US.

I don't see any problem, they are here because the alternative is horrible (ever been to Mexico City? Yeah. Thought so.)


and the list goes on..... yeah political correctness will be the downfall of the US.



The majority of Americans celebrate Christmas both Christians and those who claim no faith. It is PC when the majority have to cow-tow to the will of the minority so as to prevent "offendedness". You think Christians in Iraq got offended when Ramadan was celebrated? If you don't like the culture of the country you live in.... move.[/quote]

Don't you live in a multicultural country? Don't we all?

Its not enforcing religion...it an option. Pray if you like, to whomever you like or think about the hot chick standing next to you. Your call.

How can a school stop anyone praying? It can be done silently, in the back of a maths class, in recess, whenever. The only objection is having official prayer time. That goes against the necessary and constitutional separation of church and state. Or is the constitution itself too politically correct?

Donald Trump put up a huge American Flag on his property and the town told him to take it down.

And? Who was he supposed to be offending, exactly, by waving a giant flag? What is the point of this story?
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Re: Political Correctness is the end of Democracy!!

Postby Jesse, Bad Boy on Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:02 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Retail stores saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". (this however was corrected this past year 2006 after much public pressure)

Why do you say 'corrected?' I mean, technically we aren't celebrating christmas, we celebrate the holidays. By buying tons of crap.

Prayer in school.

I see no problem with not enforcing religion in schools UNLESS it's a religious school.

Searching baby strollers and the elderly in NYC subways while letting men of Arab decent go unsearched.

That's not PC, that's just stupid. Baby strollers? "Hold my baby while I set this bomb off". Nobody needs to be searched - the terrors to person-who-needs-to-take-the-subway ratio is nuts.

Donald Trumps American Flag... told to take it down. (He didn't)

What is this? Never heard of it.

The incomprehensible drive to allow illegal immigrants to stay illegally in the US.

I don't see any problem, they are here because the alternative is horrible (ever been to Mexico City? Yeah. Thought so.)


and the list goes on..... yeah political correctness will be the downfall of the US.



The majority of Americans celebrate Christmas both Christians and those who claim no faith. It is PC when the majority have to cow-tow to the will of the minority so as to prevent "offendedness". You think Christians in Iraq got offended when Ramadan was celebrated? If you don't like the culture of the country you live in.... move.



Its not enforcing religion...it an option. Pray if you like, to whomever you like or think about the hot chick standing next to you. Your call.


Donald Trump put up a huge American Flag on his property and the town told him to take it down.


Illegal immigration. And its terrible on the streets of many American cities. So, are you going to take in the homeless to make it better for them? These immigrants are here illegally, they are breaking US law. If you don't see a problem with breaking the law then you are not the average American.[/quote]

If you do not see a problem with disallowing immigration, then you are not the average American.

See? I can do it too.

Also, who cares if businesses say "happy holidays", they are in the business of making money, not kow towing to everyone they deem necessary.
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Postby Fitz69 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:52 pm

A couple of years ago I came across a re-written Bill Of Rights.
It was along the lines of "you have the right to use common sense", "You have the right to take responability for your own actions" and " You have the right to refuse looking/reading/viewing things offensive to you".

Does anyone recall seeing this?
I'd love to get a copy/link.
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Re: Political Correctness is the end of Democracy!!

Postby jay_a2j on Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:24 pm

Jesse, Bad Boy wrote:If you do not see a problem with disallowing immigration, then you are not the average American.

See? I can do it too.

Also, who cares if businesses say "happy holidays", they are in the business of making money, not kow towing to everyone they deem necessary.





I have no problem with Immigration. Where I have the problem is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION


You don't think if all of Mexico came across the boarder tomorrow that it would have an adverse effect on American society?

Lets list some things that would change here in the good ole USA:

*Astronomical unemployment

*Bankrupt Government (both State and Federal) for having to pay medical costs and welfare to this huge addition to our population.

*Wages would go down for entry level jobs

*Kiss your Social Security goodbye (if you even get anyways)

and I'm sure I'm missing a ton of stuff.
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