Feudal Epic, L&S, Pg. 49 [D, Gp, Gr]

[thenobodies80]

And finally, we will argue forever about the right color of green the grass should be and never reach a conclusion.

QFT. That is pretty much my stance on this.

This is my final say. I don't want to do much more of porker suggestions or it will become more his map than mine graphically.

Gimil's reply is pretty clear.
If you guys have other things to clarify please use PM and stop trolling this thread.
I think that we can restart discussion from here:

... what I really want to see is some XML

yeti_c , where are you?

[a.sub]

i apologize in advance for beating the dead horse of graphics, but can you please just revisit the contrast while people work on the XML?
simply follow the philosophy; either 70% (appx) agree on a change or we leave it as is. So if we hit a grid lock we just abandone it all together and stick with the original.

[porkenbeans]

i apologize in advance for beating the dead horse of graphics, but can you please just revisit the contrast while people work on the XML?
simply follow the philosophy; either 70% (appx) agree on a change or we leave it as is. So if we hit a grid lock we just abandon it all together and stick with the original.

Very sensible, but I am afraid that gimil is more worried about the graphics NOT being his or hers ?, than what is best in this respect. Maybe gimil could just go and play around with the fine tuning and see if the graphics can be sharpened up a bit. It only takes a moment or two if you just take it directly to photobucket editing room. I am sure that if it is done by gimil, It can still remain his/her map, graphically. Its just fine tuning, not some big overhaul.

[the.killing.44]

simply follow the philosophy; either 70% (appx) agree on a change or we leave it as is. So if we hit a grid lock we just abandone it all together and stick with the original.

Or simply listen that gimil doesn't want to change jack shit. Stop trying to get him to do it, wait for yeti, and leave britney alone!

[grandin]

Did ayone take my concern about the resolution of the large map into consideration?

[n00blet]

Did ayone take my concern about the resolution of the large map into consideration?

I agree completely that the colors and such are done and should stop being argued about.

But I must also confess that I agree with sir grandin. I respectfully petition for a look into the feasability of a resolution upgrade.

[General Mayhem]

If this goes live soon....I might actually go premium again...

[SultanOfSurreal]

For what it's worth I prefer the original coloring, ps this slapfight is mega retarded

[n00blet]

this slapfight is mega retarded

QFT

[the.killing.44]

I'll do the damn XML if it means this things gets going.

[samuelc812]

I'll do the damn XML if it means this things gets going.

Good Luck

[RedBaron0]

To be honest, the XML here should be a bit more straight forward than the Poland map... Hell, I could probably do the XML here, and you can pester killing to get on that Poland XML, sam.

[wolfpack0530]

I like porker's coloring better! Brighter and more contrast for us colorblind folks out there. However, both versions are great, and i cant wait to play it. Good luck going to the final forge!!!!

[porkenbeans]

Thanks Wolf, I am getting a little tired of the same group of knuckleheads always trying to turn everything I do into accusations of me flaming and such. The time that I spend in the foundry is meant as a helping hand, nothing more. If I state any opinion, it is only that. My opinion, period. I have not acted belligerent in any manor, and I ask that the mods step up and do something when these small group of foundry snobs try to say otherwise. I will say one more time, that my latest fine tuning of the filters IS an improvement. More than a few have agreed. That is evidence that I am not coming from way out in left field on this one. So gimil can take it or leave it, but I do not want to hear any more of this total rubbish, that I am out of line, by lobbying for this fine tuning of the transfer modes.

[Kotaro]

@ the parka (troll):

I have made my final opinion clear. Lets tak it from there.

[the.killing.44]

So gimil can take it or leave it, but I do not want to hear any more of this total rubbish, that I am out of line, by lobbying for this fine tuning of the transfer modes.

Yes he can. He has left it. You will not hear any more of this "total rubbish" if you realize that gim doesn't want it, has already said that, and stop posting the same opinion repeatedly.

As for the XML, yeti said he's low on time and though he could have a chance soon, I've got it done sans co-ords and neutral values. I'll try to have that done by tonight.

[porkenbeans]

So gimil can take it or leave it, but I do not want to hear any more of this total rubbish, that I am out of line, by lobbying for this fine tuning of the transfer modes.

Yes he can. He has left it. You will not hear any more of this "total rubbish" if you realize that gim doesn't want it, has already said that, and stop posting the same opinion repeatedly.

As for the XML, yeti said he's low on time and though he could have a chance soon, I've got it done sans co-ords and neutral values. I'll try to have that done by tonight.

It is a matter of playability. More than one person has said that my suggestion about the fine tuning does indeed help to make the map easier to read. Gimils reason for not wanting to consider it, is because he doesnt want it to somehow be more my map than his. This is ridiculous. The only thing that should matter is, if it is better one way or the other. Not some silly notion about who's map it is. Everyone knows the answer to that. If he wants his map to be harder for color blind people to read it, just because he does not want to take a suggestion from me, then that would be a shame. If the suggestion was only to aesthetics, and gimil did not agree, that would be one thing, and I probably would never had said another word on the matter. But, the idea that he would somehow loose ownership of the map by accepting my suggestion, is not wise, and goes against everything that the foundry process is about.

[n00blet]

So gimil can take it or leave it, but I do not want to hear any more of this total rubbish, that I am out of line, by lobbying for this fine tuning of the transfer modes.

Yes he can. He has left it. You will not hear any more of this "total rubbish" if you realize that gim doesn't want it, has already said that, and stop posting the same opinion repeatedly.

As for the XML, yeti said he's low on time and though he could have a chance soon, I've got it done sans co-ords and neutral values. I'll try to have that done by tonight.

It is a matter of playability. More than one person has said that my suggestion about the fine tuning does indeed help to make the map easier to read. Gimils reason for not wanting to consider it, is because he doesnt want it to somehow be more my map than his. This is ridiculous. The only thing that should matter is, if it is better one way or the other. Not some silly notion about who's map it is. Everyone knows the answer to that. If he wants his map to be harder for color blind people to read it just because he does not want to take a suggestion from me, that would make it easier to read, then that would be a shame.

Holy. Shit.

Maybe if I translate gimil's message for you, it'll be a bit easier to understand.

This is my final say.

Means: SHUT UP ABOUT GRAPHICS.

I'll admit your arguments had *some* merit before gimil decided he didn't want any more additions. Now you're just trolling the thread.

[porkenbeans]

So gimil can take it or leave it, but I do not want to hear any more of this total rubbish, that I am out of line, by lobbying for this fine tuning of the transfer modes.

Yes he can. He has left it. You will not hear any more of this "total rubbish" if you realize that gim doesn't want it, has already said that, and stop posting the same opinion repeatedly.

As for the XML, yeti said he's low on time and though he could have a chance soon, I've got it done sans co-ords and neutral values. I'll try to have that done by tonight.

It is a matter of playability. More than one person has said that my suggestion about the fine tuning does indeed help to make the map easier to read. Gimils reason for not wanting to consider it, is because he doesnt want it to somehow be more my map than his. This is ridiculous. The only thing that should matter is, if it is better one way or the other. Not some silly notion about who's map it is. Everyone knows the answer to that. If he wants his map to be harder for color blind people to read it just because he does not want to take a suggestion from me, that would make it easier to read, then that would be a shame.

Holy. Shit.

Maybe if I translate gimil's message for you, it'll be a bit easier to understand.

This is my final say.

Means: SHUT UP ABOUT GRAPHICS.

I'll admit your arguments had *some* merit before gimil decided he didn't want any more additions. Now you're just trolling the thread.

It is not an addition, it is only about the fine tuning, and it goes to playability. and for the record, virtually every map that I have taken an interest in, I have been able to contribute to its end. I am convinced that I am right about this suggestion. We are all just waiting for the code to be done, and there is no other conversation going on, so I am hurting no one by trying to persuade gimil to see my point. ...lighten up dude.

[the.killing.44]

So gimil can take it or leave it, but I do not want to hear any more of this total rubbish, that I am out of line, by lobbying for this fine tuning of the transfer modes.

Yes he can. He has left it. You will not hear any more of this "total rubbish" if you realize that gim doesn't want it, has already said that, and stop posting the same opinion repeatedly.

As for the XML, yeti said he's low on time and though he could have a chance soon, I've got it done sans co-ords and neutral values. I'll try to have that done by tonight.

It is a matter of playability. More than one person has said that my suggestion about the fine tuning does indeed help to make the map easier to read. Gimils reason for not wanting to consider it, is because he doesnt want it to somehow be more my map than his. This is ridiculous. The only thing that should matter is, if it is better one way or the other. Not some silly notion about who's map it is. Everyone knows the answer to that. If he wants his map to be harder for color blind people to read it just because he does not want to take a suggestion from me, that would make it easier to read, then that would be a shame.

Holy. Shit.

Maybe if I translate gimil's message for you, it'll be a bit easier to understand.

This is my final say.

Means: SHUT UP ABOUT GRAPHICS.

I'll admit your arguments had *some* merit before gimil decided he didn't want any more additions. Now you're just trolling the thread.

It is not an addition, it is only about the fine tuning, and it goes to playability. and for the record, virtually every map that I have taken an interest in, I have been able to contribute to its end. I am convinced that I am right about this suggestion. We are all just waiting for the code to be done, and there is no other conversation going on, so I am hurting no one by trying to persuade gimil to see my point. ...lighten up dude.

Congrats on being stubborn. Now, let's put this in perspective: it is like you are trying to convince da Vinci to paint the Mona Lisa with an beard. He is not going to accept your suggestion. Stop trying. PLEASE.

XML update: completed, trying to figure out 2 errors, whose roots I really can't find. I'll keep working.

[captainwalrus]

What is the reasoning behind having the large version so close in size to the small version?

[yeti_c]

XML update: completed, trying to figure out 2 errors, whose roots I really can't find. I'll keep working.

Excellent work - and cheers for picking this up for me - drop me a PM if you need a hand...

C.

[gimil]

Your suggestion may make thins easier for colour blind people but that doesn't mean it needs to be fufilled. The current version is more than enought for colour blind people:

Oaktown hasn't complained about colou rblind being a problem

My colour blind friend an't see any problems

and this guy even thou colour blind said either version is great.

I like porker's coloring better! Brighter and more contrast for us colorblind folks out there. However, both versions are great, and i cant wait to play it. Good luck going to the final forge!!!!

There is a line porker between making a change to help the colour blind and then refining ever detail with only colour blind people in mind.

As an old gal I never got along with on these forums said:

'Its one thing to have disabled parking spaces, it is another to turn the whold damn lot into them' (Or something like that)

For the size of the large map, it shouldn't be that small. I must have made a mistake somewhere down the line. I will look into fixing it

[porkenbeans]

Your suggestion may make thins easier for colour blind people but that doesn't mean it needs to be fufilled. The current version is more than enought for colour blind people:

Oaktown hasn't complained about colou rblind being a problem

My colour blind friend an't see any problems

and this guy even thou colour blind said either version is great.

I like porker's coloring better! Brighter and more contrast for us colorblind folks out there. However, both versions are great, and i cant wait to play it. Good luck going to the final forge!!!!

There is a line porker between making a change to help the colour blind and then refining ever detail with only colour blind people in mind.

As an old gal I never got along with on these forums said:

'Its one thing to have disabled parking spaces, it is another to turn the whold damn lot into them' (Or something like that)

For the size of the large map, it shouldn't be that small. I must have made a mistake somewhere down the line. I will look into fixing it

Yeah, I agree with that old gal, and I respect your decision on this matter. I hope that you do not begrudge me for my lobbying effort, as some have. I am glad to have been a part in the production of your map. I think that is is way better than the original Feudal. However, I am the kind of person that believes there is always room for improvement, This is the curse of the perfectionist, and I carry this affliction as you can see. Please keep this in mind, and in the future, just know that I am only trying to help.

[the.killing.44]

Map name: Feudal Epic

Link to thread: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=61409

Link to large image: http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/G ... picL-2.png

Link to small image: http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/G ... picS-3.png

[For Neutral Reference]: http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c64/G ... utrals.png
*Note Tri 12 & Tri 7 switch neutral value

XML: (text link or in [code] brackets): http://h1.ripway.com/killing44/Feudal.xml