MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:18 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Puff wrote:
wicked wrote:but rojo hasn't even claimed cop. WE are the ones putting that label on him. lynching fircola doesn't automatically prove rojo is a cop if fircola turns out to be townie.

I think the whole situation is weird, but I'm not ready to lynch on it right now.
It does prove something Lynching Fircoal will tell us if red bull is either:

cop
mafia
mason

why else would he defend fircoal
And how could he be a mason, if I'm not sure if he's scum or not.

Smarter mafia trying to back track.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:19 pm

Marvaddin wrote:So, Fircoal, you are not a mason, right?

Just to remember you, red bull posted that he had the feeling that Mach was mafia.

Plus, why we never started to talk about our identities in this game? In other games, this is always a convo, although it sometimes can be more confusing than helpfull.

I'm not a mason.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:19 pm

Marvaddin wrote: red bull posted that he had the feeling that Mach was mafia.

where was this Marv???

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:20 pm

red bull wrote:i have the feeling fircoal IS pro town and mach IS mafia or something like that.. just a thought

Here's the quote, Wicked.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:22 pm

red bull wrote:i have the feeling fircoal IS pro town and mach IS mafia or something like that.. just a thought

From page 23 ^^

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:22 pm

Fircoal wrote:
red bull wrote:i have the feeling fircoal IS pro town and mach IS mafia or something like that.. just a thought
Here's the quote, Wicked.

But at that point, he'd only been able to do ONE investigation, correct? How can you be sure of TWO people if you've only done ONE investigation?

FOS ROJO AGAIN

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:23 pm

if Rojo doesn't have a good explanation for that, I'm voting him. But I want to hear him out first.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:23 pm

wicked wrote:if Rojo doesn't have a good explanation for that, I'm voting him. But I want to hear him out first.

Same here

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:25 pm

well he's not in chat, so he's not here. I'll be back later!!

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:31 pm

I don't think red bull is going to come back with anything substantial. I have been reading this over and over and over again.. nothing makes more sense except the trademark mafia throwing us all over the place.

RK - why fircoal?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:31 pm

Well I thought of something, he probably isn't a mason with me because
1) I say that we're not
2) I voted to lynch him yesterday, I would have to be really stupid, to vote a mason with me.

He's probably not a cop because, to proven me innocent and Mach guilty would require 2 investagations, and our day cop is already dead.

That means he's either a townie who can't explain or Mafia. I'd say mafia.

Vote: Red Bull

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:34 pm

unvote fircoal for now. I'm not sure with how substantial rojo will come out with, but Its waiting time.

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:40 pm

reverend_kyle wrote: unvote fircoal for now. I'm not sure with how substantial rojo will come out with, but Its waiting time.

I am about ready to vote red bull to get rid of the "rojo" crap!

but I am sure he will put his foot deep deep in his mouth shortly. liars always do.... (hint hint "Rojo" - Think.. think again.. type.. think some more then hit submit button).

And yes.. I am ready to DOS red bull

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:54 pm

wicked wrote:
red bull wrote:i have the feeling fircoal IS pro town and mach IS mafia or something like that.. just a thought
But at that point, he'd only been able to do ONE investigation, correct? How can you be sure of TWO people if you've only done ONE investigation?

FOS ROJO AGAIN

Once again, if I'm believing that red bull is the cop, this makes plenty of sense. If he investigated fircoal and found out he was innocent, then he saw mach post this...

Machiavelli wrote:IF XenHu wasnt town, I dont think Senfive is either.

And I get the vibe that fircoal isnt protown, even if the SK thing doesnt make him guilty.

which is what made him say that perhaps mach was mafia. Notice, he said "I have a feeling" and "or something like that" which seems like he was unsure, and probably would want to investigate mach tonight. He also said a bit later...

red bull wrote:ok i cant really back anything up im sorry i cant. its just what i think and how he is acting,{fircoal} i still have no clues who is in the mafia i have some thoughts as to who is in it but i think i will not get a clear view untill the next day. but right now it does not look like i will make it but i do know that the pro town needs to keep fircoal alive

Which seems to me he was confident in his thoughts about fircoal but not about machiavelli, or other potential mafia and he wants to investigate them tonight. (I personally believe mach is innocent for now, but he's hella good so its tough to read).

Anyway, I will once again say that it is not worth the risk to lynch someone who appears to be a cop. Everyone did it to Autoload in Finn Rock and then he was the actual cop. The doctors and cops have been lynched by townies much more often in these games than killed by mafia. I have no proof that red bull is a cop, but I believe he is and I think his posts make sense. If you lynch him and find out he is the cop the townies will be in tough shape.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:15 pm

Why is everyone so sure that redbull is either cop or mafia?

Couldnt he just be a plain townie? There are some people in this game that I would defend even stronger than rojo was defending fircoal, you dont need night info to be sure that someone is town.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:16 pm

Machiavelli wrote:Why is everyone so sure that redbull is either cop or mafia?

Couldnt he just be a plain townie? There are some people in this game that I would defend even stronger than rojo was defending fircoal, you dont need night info to be sure that someone is town.

I've said that he could of been a townie, it's just more unlikely. He seems mafia to me.

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:28 pm

Machiavelli wrote:Why is everyone so sure that redbull is either cop or mafia?

Couldnt he just be a plain townie? There are some people in this game that I would defend even stronger than rojo was defending fircoal, you dont need night info to be sure that someone is town.

I think he can defend whoever he wants to defend. What bugs me is the flip flopping and "hunches" and the "knowing" who is mafia and who is townie. Does it mean I am 100% convinced of his scumness? no. But what he has been doing stands out more than what anyone else is. Would suck if he just turns out to be a stupid townie - would suck even more if he does turn out to be a cop (a moronic cop if that's the case) but at this point, we really don't have too much to go on, do we?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:30 pm

Machiavelli wrote: There are some people in this game that I would defend even stronger than rojo was defending fircoal, you dont need night info to be sure that someone is town.

like your mafia buddies?

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:26 pm

Damn! How did catch me so fast?

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:27 pm

There should be a "you" between "did" and "catch"

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:28 pm

well I saw rojo in chat, and I saw him browsing, but not posting.

vote red bull

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:43 pm

ok first of all i did not know you were alowed to tell your job . the way i play it at home is you are not alowed to tell your job sorry for that and second I AM SURE WE SHOULD NOT kill fircoal BUT i picked marv just because if he is smart and mafia he would have picked up that i was defending fircoal for a reason and that i knew something and that i could find out something possibly about him next time so he would want my self and fircoal dead. you see thats what i was getting at with him!

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:55 pm

ok thank you wicked I AM A COP !!!!!!!!!!!!!! idid not know i was able to say that

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:57 pm

BUT WE NEED TO KEEP FIRCOAL ALIVE !!!!!!!

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:58 pm

for clarification, rojo asked me in chat if "saying his job" was against the rules. I said no. I hope that's ok since it was just a rule clarification. I would've directed him to IC, but IC wasn't online.