MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:24 pm

ooh! what if there's a day vigilante and a night vigilante????? or day vigilante and night SK? or ... ????

vgmmaster · Post by **vgmmaster** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:25 pm

I've seen this before, and it's possible that there's a tratior within the mafia group. Espiecally since two mafia members are dead already.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:26 pm

Hm, well 2 more dead...we are down to 21 people now.

Points of interest for everyone to consider:

The mafia had a cop, this suggests there might be 3 divisions of mutants here... (maybe more instigators?)

2 Mafia dead thus far, one killed during the day, one killed during the night.

A cop is gone, and in a game this large, perhaps we've got a back-up, or perhaps another role unlocked? I think I know who Master Bush investigated the first night also. We should take a closer look at his voting record also...

--Andy

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:28 pm

Or perhaps those were linked roles?

Would a traitor be able to kill independently of mafia?

Two mafia gone by the 2nd day! This ROCKS!!

vgmmaster · Post by **vgmmaster** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:30 pm

wicked wrote:Or perhaps those were linked roles?

Would a traitor be able to kill independently of mafia?

Two mafia gone by the 2nd day! This ROCKS!!

It depends. In one game I played a while ago, there was a SK inside the mafia. It may not be a traitor necessarily, but somebody with a killing ability.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:31 pm

I did look at MB's voting record, he random voted me, then voted xenhu b/c he was acting weird. he didn't go after anyone else that I saw.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:31 pm

Hm, a serial killer in the Mafia could be an option...but it would have to be a random choice, or 'inversed' SK...as one most likely wouldn't take out a fellow mafia member (unless it is part of strategy to confuse?).

--Andy

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:34 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Hm, well 2 more ...we are down to 21 people now.

Points of interest for everyone to consider:
The mafia had a cop, this suggests there might be 3 divisions of mutants here... (maybe more instigators?)

2 Mafia thus far, one killed during the day, one killed during the night.

A cop is gone, and in a game this large, perhaps we've got a back-up, or perhaps another role unlocked? I think I know who Master Bush investigated the first night also. We should take a closer look at his voting record also...

--Andy

I am sure that another cop role was unlocked in a game this large. There is probably a backup for the doctor too.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:36 pm

and since IC specifically said MB was a DAY COP, I bet there's a NIGHT COP too.

vgmmaster · Post by **vgmmaster** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:37 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Hm, a serial killer in the Mafia could be an option...but it would have to be a random choice, or 'inversed' SK...as one most likely wouldn't take out a fellow mafia member (unless it is part of strategy to confuse?).

--Andy

Actually, I was the Mafia SK in that game and the choices were not random. I don't understand why the SK would take out the mafia first, so, if my theory is correct, we have a newbie serial killer.

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:37 pm

I wonder if there is a day doc, who can prevent someone from being lynched?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:42 pm

Maybe there is a day cop, I believe there is a day vig though.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:43 pm

I think the Day COP has already been confirmed, Fircoal. Did you mean Day DOC?;)

--Andy

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:43 pm

possible roles then...

1-2 cops (day and night?)
1 backup cop
1-2 docs (day and night?)
1 backup doc
1-2 vigilante (day and night?)
1 SK or traitor
2 possible masons (seems to be a popular role, so I guess IC would include)
5-6 mafia (that was MB's guess)

So in a game of 25, wouldn't that be too many pro-townie power roles??

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:45 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I think the Day COP has already been confirmed, Fircoal. Did you mean Day DOC?;)

--Andy

Yes, I did. I keep on making mistakes, I think it might be due to the fact that my mafia game is going on so I r5ush my posts a bit.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:51 pm

ok lets see two dead at night 4 total dead ....... fircaol off the hook for me now i think he is pro town ..........

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:57 pm

red bull wrote: fircaol off the hook for me now i think he is pro town ..........

Why?

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:06 pm

wicked wrote:I didn't really see anything that Spiesr wrote that made him look mafia. So that's two mysterious mafia kills, from a vigililante I'm guessing? But no one is THAT lucky. So I'm not sure what killing role would be that precise! And how would one person get two kills? Probably not, so probably two independent killing roles that are pro-town? These are all just theories, just trying to make sense of what we're dealing with here.

Do you think we may have two mafia groups/families? Remember that neither of the dead mafia members did anything extraordinary to make them look guilty...

I guess I just don't believe its a vigilante, because there was not much evidence against either one. I think a vigilante would be a bit more careful in using their power because they could just end up killing townies twice as fast if they were wrong. A serial killer is a real possibility though, I can believe that.

Anyway, my reasoning for having two different mafias- First of all, their were two kills at night which seems to support that theory. Also, the large number of people would open up room for multiple mafia groups. Each group would have to defeat the other mafia and the townies to win. I still can't really explain the day kills or day cop or any of that....it seems like we may just have a lot of twists.

Now, since Master Bush was the Day Cop he would have already investigated someone. I'm going to go search his posts to see if he left a hint about that person, or any other "breadcrumb" as I think they call it in mafiascum.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:08 pm

reading who he was going after look at it. he knows somthing ..........

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:09 pm

I think Sully is onto something, regarding perhaps multiple mafias...I was thinking the same thing, since there was a mafia cop.

--Andy

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:10 pm

and my mind is always right

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:16 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I think Sully is onto something, regarding perhaps multiple mafias...I was thinking the same thing, since there was a mafia cop.

--Andy

Oh yeah, the mafia cop is another excellent clue. If it was a standard 2 side game the mafia would have no need for a cop...or very little anyway. I suppose it could be useful for finding power roles but it makes more sense to have two mafias.

By the way, does anyone have theories as to why Xenhu was posted in blue but Master Bush was listed in Green?

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:16 pm

I dont know what to say, I'm not really used to these types of games and figuring them out. But I think there is 2 of everything

2 mafia groups 2 docs 2 cops

as everyone has been saying.. nothing new here just wanting people to not say "kyle isn't posting omgzz mafiaxxorzz!!" because I'm not mafia.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:17 pm

sully800 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I think Sully is onto something, regarding perhaps multiple mafias...I was thinking the same thing, since there was a mafia cop.

--Andy
Oh yeah, the mafia cop is another excellent clue. If it was a standard 2 side game the mafia would have no need for a cop...or very little anyway. I suppose it could be useful for finding power roles but it makes more sense to have two mafias.

By the way, does anyone have theories as to why Xenhu was posted in blue but Master Bush was listed in Green?

I always thought that mafia cops were ones who could see power roles.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:18 pm

I also haven't since the first day thought that Xenhu was pro town, but I dont know what he would be if not.. pro town pro mafia there doesnt seem to be a 3rd tier.l