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I have looked at other countries. Why do you think that means "WE have to be like them"? WHY? taxation takes away from liberty. I see you have completely discarded the concept of liberty, as ALL your statements tread on it. Is there any other single person that likes the IRS and is willing to make it stronger? Please join up with this communist, he is lonely. so you want to Make the IRS stonger......YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY are you serious? BTW xelabale, the IRS accepts checks, send them as much of your own dare i say "hard earned" money. and if you think it's ok to sit in the back and steal from citizens thru taxation, well, you just can't find a better definition of a coward. you want more of my money, come and face me and try to fucking take it. at least have the balls. ok?xelabale wrote:Oh. My. God.
Tax.
RUUUUUUUUN
While you still can
Using all our money for the common good, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Look at countries like France, Canada and Sweden, do we want to end up like that????????????? No wonder the frogs wear berets, canucks wear toques and the Swedes are blonde, it's the burden of tax they bear.
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
And if I try and weasel out of paying the evil IRS will get me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So true. Many reasons why the US government is not effective. Firstly, there is so little trust in it. Here in Europe the government in trusted, but scrutinised so that any money that is spent is spent properly. Also the US government is too corporatist and its congress is all in the pockets of the rich, so there is no incentive to actually run government as it should be.The Neon Peon wrote:Taxation is good depending on what the government uses it for. The reason that countries like France have free education even in private universities, free nationalized and good health care, clean cities etc. is because they use their money wisely.
Personally, I think the US has been doing a terrible job of spending their money and still is. I am not in favor whatsoever of increasing taxes until we start using the money we have more intelligently, but high taxes are not at all a bad thing.
I highly doubt that. The citizens of USA understand American freedom and liberty, not what the true concept of their meanings are.Phatscotty wrote:The People of the United States understand freedom and liberty......The People of the United States are Saying NO. signature
And that shows your vast knowledge of international affairs and how screwed up your vision is.Phatscotty wrote:you foreigners, I know you support it cuz you will support anything that makes America weaker. Your country has nothing to do with Obama or the IRS
Phatscotty wrote:MYOB. you foreigners, I know you support it cuz you will support anything that makes America weaker. Your country has nothing to do with Obama or the IRS
yes, and i have 100% evidence. look at every person who supports healthcare on this website, in turtle soup. all foreigners and a couple of americans. i have been looking, you have not. tell me more about who has their add up whos ass? do your research clown. WE don't care about "Every other industrialized" argument, we dont have to be like everybody else. we rather enjoy not being like everybody else. MYO fucking B!el-presidente wrote:Phatscotty wrote:MYOB. you foreigners, I know you support it cuz you will support anything that makes America weaker. Your country has nothing to do with Obama or the IRSAre you stupid, or do you just live with your head up your arse? Do you honestly belive that every person from a foreign country is trying to make America fall apart? Maybe if people would actualy try to understand other countries things would be a lot better. There is a reason almost every other industrialized nation in the world has some form of government healthcare. I would rather the IRS itself control my healthcare than a company that profits only if they can avoid paying for the things that I need.
doesnt matter what they have, that means nothing to me. I dont care how any foriengers think My country should handle healthcare. you are pushing Fascism, HARDel-presidente wrote:Well, let's think this out, shall we? Ok, most foreign countries have some sort of public option, okay, you still with me? Now, that means that most foreigners (including the ones posting on this very site) live in a county that has a public healthcare option. They all like it, but most of the people who don't like it, are Americans like you, who have never seen it in action. Wouldn't you think, that if people with it like it, that would be a good indication that it is good? Also, because the people against it don't really know what it is like, they are not really a credible source for saying if it works well. Do you get my point?
That is a marvelous sentence.Phatscotty wrote:you "look at how they do it. see, you should do what they do. why can you do like they do"......fascism, look it up I can tell you dont know what it means
Mr_Adams wrote:You, sir, are an idiot.
Timminz wrote:By that logic, you eat babies.
I believe you on that, and guess why mostly foreigners support it? BECAUSE IT HAS WORKED IN THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE FROM!!! Nationalized healthcare works great in France, Sweden, Canada, Russia and many other countries, which is why the people from those countries support it.Phatscotty wrote:yes, and i have 100% evidence. look at every person who supports healthcare on this website, in turtle soup. all foreigners and a couple of americans. i have been looking, you have not.
If all foreigners actually did hate America, wouldn't you think there would be a reason why? I can't recall people hating other countries in such unison as you are describing.Phatscotty wrote:MYOB. you foreigners, I know you support it cuz you will support anything that makes America weaker. Your country has nothing to do with Obama or the IRS
Okay, I just looked it upPhatscotty wrote:you "look at how they do it. see, you should do what they do. why can you do like they do"......fascism, look it up I can tell you dont know what it means
I say we should have nationalized healthcare similar to that they have in France and Canada. Last I checked, they were as democratic and free as the US.Merriam-Webster's Dictionary wrote: 1 a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
Btw, go to France or Canada and injure yourself, make yourself get a disease and eat crappy food so you can get a heart attack. OMG! They don't make you use the government healthcare! If you want to, you can go to some private place to be cured...Phatscotty wrote:I am simply speaking for myself. Gov't take over of health care opposers wish to force nothing on no person. Supporters demand the enforcement of something on EVERYONE. Simple, done, end of story. Supporters are fascist communists in its simplest form. Opposers love liberty and freedom. its as simple as that. Dance around it, disguise it all you want. All we are saying is....
DON'T TREAD ON ME
yes. Anyways phatscotty if all the foreigners who have it think its great, it probably is, I wasn't sure where I stood before, but now I'm pretty sure i am, thanks to your idiot posts.Phatscotty wrote:I have looked at other countries. Why do you think that means "WE have to be like them"? WHY? taxation takes away from liberty. I see you have completely discarded the concept of liberty, as ALL your statements tread on it. Is there any other single person that likes the IRS and is willing to make it stronger?xelabale wrote:Oh. My. God.
Tax.
RUUUUUUUUN
While you still can
Using all our money for the common good, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Look at countries like France, Canada and Sweden, do we want to end up like that????????????? No wonder the frogs wear berets, canucks wear toques and the Swedes are blonde, it's the burden of tax they bear.
AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
And if I try and weasel out of paying the evil IRS will get me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
1) Facist communist is an oxymoron, Facists are anti-communist by deffinition.Phatscotty wrote:I am simply speaking for myself. Gov't take over of health care opposers wish to force nothing on no person. Supporters demand the enforcement of something on EVERYONE. Simple, done, end of story. Supporters are fascist communists in its simplest form. Opposers love liberty and freedom. its as simple as that. Dance around it, disguise it all you want. All we are saying is....
DON'T TREAD ON ME
Good trollery, I'm impressed, but I think you went to far with the "nothing on no person", people aren't gonna buy that. Now git orf my laand.Phatscotty wrote:I am simply speaking for myself. Gov't take over of health care opposers wish to force nothing on no person. Supporters demand the enforcement of something on EVERYONE. Simple, done, end of story. Supporters are fascist communists in its simplest form. Opposers love liberty and freedom. its as simple as that. Dance around it, disguise it all you want. All we are saying is....
DON'T TREAD ON ME