MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:32 am

I personally don't know who's theory to go with so I'm going to say.

vote: No Lynch

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:57 am

Fircoal wrote:And for the OMGUS votes. It's like a random vote, and there really is no harm to it. It's just a vote in a playfully manner. All of the votes so far have been random, besides the Xenhu Bandwagon. So what's the matter with an OMGUS vote. It's like a random one, just with out the random. It still isn't a meaningful vote. Right now that's all it is, meaningless votes, except the Xenhu Bandwagon. I'd say that they look more scummy then I do. When someone really startes acting like scum, I will start to change my vote, and go more onto them.

Although I still don't like what you did, I can see that in your mind you aren't doing anything wrong.

Unvote: Fircoal

I still have some reading and analyzing to do.

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:11 am

AK_iceman wrote:Vote Count

[2] Machiavelli -- (Nyvek, Lt.Mustard)

[1] autoload -- (Fircoal)

[2] AndyDufresne -- (wicked, XenHu)

[6] XenHu -- (dcowboys055, Machiavelli, supercram, Master Bush, HoussamTheGreat, trestain)

[2] No Lynch -- (red bull, Senfive)

[12] Not Voting, Everyone Else
13 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Not that it matters now, but you missed my vote on Fircoal in your last Vote Count. I unvoted him now, so the point is moot. I just know that I would like to be corrected in games I mod is all. No offense...

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:16 am

moz976 wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:Wicked and moz976 raise their heads and rub their eyes.
Waking up next to Wicked nice way to wake up hehe

I agree with everyone that XenHu seems to be out of character from what I have seen in other games. I could see him as being the jester. So the question is should we lynch him to see of look for someone else to put pressure on. I am going to look through what everyone has posted again to see if there is anyone who seems to be acting more scummy than XenHu

Hey Moz - buzz off!! She's mine.

As for Xenhu call me crazy but I am kind of uncomfortable giving him game-long immunity just because he claimed to be a jester!

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:18 am

autoload wrote: Not that it matters now, but you missed my vote on Fircoal in your last Vote Count. I unvoted him now, so the point is moot. I just know that I would like to be corrected in games I mod is all. No offense...

Damn noob mafia hosts...

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:18 am

HoussamTheGreat wrote:[

Hey Moz - buzz off!! She's mine.

As for Xenhu call me crazy but I am kind of uncomfortable giving him game-long immunity just because he claimed to be a jester!

I never claimed anything...

-X

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:42 am

HoussamTheGreat wrote:As for Xenhu call me crazy but I am kind of uncomfortable giving him game-long immunity just because he claimed to be a jester!

Agreed.

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:45 am

HoussamTheGreat wrote:
moz976 wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:Wicked and moz976 raise their heads and rub their eyes.
Waking up next to Wicked nice way to wake up hehe

I agree with everyone that XenHu seems to be out of character from what I have seen in other games. I could see him as being the jester. So the question is should we lynch him to see of look for someone else to put pressure on. I am going to look through what everyone has posted again to see if there is anyone who seems to be acting more scummy than XenHu
Hey Moz - buzz off!! She's mine.

As for Xenhu call me crazy but I am kind of uncomfortable giving him game-long immunity just because he claimed to be a jester!

Sorry Houssam I didn't write ice did. Maybe if you weren't "working on homework" with Supercram she would have been with you hehe

On a serious note I don't think we should give him game long immunity on a hunch. I just don't think we should rush to lynch someone who seems so willing to go.

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:45 am

I agreed for not giving him game long immunity, not for claiming Jester which i know he didn't. The way everyone was talking the theory of him being Jester kind of became implied. I don't like that.

I doubt with 25 players that AK would say, "Whelp, The Jester was lynched... Game over!" after one day...

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:47 am

I never said I was willing to go either.. Jeeze! Thinking out loud can get you killed.

-X

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:11 am

Why are we all jumping on Xenhu right now. I didn't see anything blatantly convincing, but I'd vote for him if someone could post something super convincing.

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:21 am

reverend_kyle wrote:Why are we all jumping on Xenhu right now. I didn't see anything blatantly convincing, but I'd vote for him if someone could post something super convincing.

I am ALWAYS pro day 1 lynch, because I think a no lynch give mafia a defacto advantage. so even in absence of concrete evidence, I usually go after whoever seems more likely to get lynched - just to get things moving. and yes 75% of the time, it turns out to be a townie, but it gives you some insight.

Having said that, this time, Xenhu does legitimately seem suspicious to me. He comes out and says Andy is dead anyway - which is pretty stupid if you ask me. He really has no defence - I am not sure about the jester thing, but I am not willing really to have somebody go the whole game basically with immunity only to discover he was mafia! If he is a jester and fulfills his win condition, that's ok.. he will win alongside the town. I don't care - but somehow I doubt it.

Do I know he is mafia - no.. but then go back to the first paragraph.

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:22 am

I already said I took my joking to far... I just thought tha if I was mafia that's what I'd do...

Christ...

-X

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:33 am

XenHu wrote:I just thought tha if I was mafia that's what I'd do...

-X

why?

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:39 am

To piss people off.. C'mon, are you saying you wouldn't miss Andy?

-X

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:46 am

XenHu wrote:To piss people off.. C'mon, are you saying you wouldn't miss Andy?

-X

I would. I've never played with him before. I can see how a mafia would see him as a threat though. Joking around is fine, but it seems like you're using that as an excuse to cover up a slip?

unvote random vote
vote xenhu

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:53 am

xenhu is starting to feel like a lynch mob victim to me. i listened to mach with the "he's so annoying let's get rid of him argument" but that's how we lost our Doc last game. i can't risk it.

unvote xenhu for now.

there are so many people who haven't posted. 7 votes on one guy right now is really fast.

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:01 pm

Actually there is only one person who hasn't posted at all and that is Sully800.
Of course some have posted more than others have.

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:19 pm

sorry there are so many people in this game it's hard to keep track of already. i found the 19 player game difficult and this one even more so.

we're alos assuredly going to make a mistake today. but can someone convince me why no lynch makes sense?

i don't believe in it mathematically, but lately i've pushed for Day 1 lynches and been so terribly terribly wrong.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:21 pm

About XenHu, I agree with these:

HoussamTheGreat wrote:As for Xenhu call me crazy but I am kind of uncomfortable giving him game-long immunity just because he claimed to be a jester!

wicked wrote:Joking around is fine, but it seems like you're using that as an excuse to cover up a slip?

So, vote XenHu

Beyond that, I suspect Senfive... he looks unstable, is accusing many people, while ignores what XenHu is doing... talking about others death.

I dont know anything about this Jester role, maybe someone could clarify, but if hes mafia and killing him wont give mafia scum the victory, whats the problem of killing him? We would most probably lynch a townie if no one get suspicious. So I think XenHu is the best option, at least if I didnt misunderstand the Jester thing.

I thought this was suspicious:

red bull wrote:but.... i must vote no lynch to early in the game... might kill one of the good ones

It looks too innocent to me... To me it seems a try to cheat me.
No lynch? Really? And then:

Senfive wrote:I honestly have to agree with red bull on this one. Way too early on and the chances of Hittin a Pro-Townie with a power role is way too high in a 25 man game. so therefore I am going to SFOS Fircoal and Machiavelli and Houssam and Master Bush and have to Vote No Lynch

4 SFOS, so serious accusations, and vote no lynch????

And supercram is also suspicious to me: he was the 1st to vote to XenHu, in page 4, if Im not wrong, unvoted under the jester excuse on page 6, then vote again to XenHu in page 6, and now, after voting to him twice, is talking about mob victim? XenHu is doing nothing to defend himself! Man, are you crazy?

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:24 pm

What more do you want me to say.. I fucked up with my joking..

That's all you have on me... Just jokes...

-X

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:26 pm

XenHu wrote:What more do you want me to say.. I fucked up with my joking..

That's all you have on me... Just jokes...

-X

You don't have anything you could tell us that would clear you XenHu? If not I guess I'm going to have to vote for you as well.

XenHu · Post by **XenHu** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:27 pm

What can I tell you... I'm a townie.. That's all...

-X

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:40 pm

Marvaddin wrote:About XenHu, I agree with these:
HoussamTheGreat wrote:As for Xenhu call me crazy but I am kind of uncomfortable giving him game-long immunity just because he claimed to be a jester!

wicked wrote:Joking around is fine, but it seems like you're using that as an excuse to cover up a slip?
So, vote XenHu

Beyond that, I suspect Senfive... he looks unstable, is accusing many people, while ignores what XenHu is doing... talking about others death.

I dont know anything about this Jester role, maybe someone could clarify, but if hes mafia and killing him wont give mafia scum the victory, whats the problem of killing him? We would most probably lynch a townie if no one get suspicious. So I think XenHu is the best option, at least if I didnt misunderstand the Jester thing.

I thought this was suspicious:
red bull wrote:but.... i must vote no lynch to early in the game... might kill one of the good ones
It looks too innocent to me... To me it seems a try to cheat me.
No lynch? Really? And then:

Senfive wrote:I honestly have to agree with red bull on this one. Way too early on and the chances of Hittin a Pro-Townie with a power role is way too high in a 25 man game. so therefore I am going to SFOS Fircoal and Machiavelli and Houssam and Master Bush and have to Vote No Lynch
4 SFOS, so serious accusations, and vote no lynch????

And supercram is also suspicious to me: he was the 1st to vote to XenHu, in page 4, if Im not wrong, unvoted under the jester excuse on page 6, then vote again to XenHu in page 6, and now, after voting to him twice, is talking about mob victim? XenHu is doing nothing to defend himself! Man, are you crazy?

Wow Marv! I didn't know you had it in you! You bring up some excellent points. I was going to post about supercram's on again off again vote romance with XenHu, but it seems you beat me to it. Very suspicious on the part of supercram.

Also, it should not be a secret that I have never been a fan of the No Lynch on the first day. Most people that suggest it is new however, and don't realize what a mistake it is. red bull might be off the hook for this one, but not Senfive. As you have stated, I do not like his major FOS's of people with not even a vote to lynch one of them. I am torn on whether to vote for supercram or Senfive at the moment. I believe we, as town, in games past have put guys up for lynch pretty hastily and with sloppy reason. Odds are we will make a mistake again this game, but we have to try and do better this time.

Vote: Xenhu

If XenHu turns out to be mafia, then it should be apparent that supercram is as well for trying to protect him when the going got a little tough.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:09 pm

autoload wrote:
Marvaddin wrote:About XenHu, I agree with these:
HoussamTheGreat wrote:As for Xenhu call me crazy but I am kind of uncomfortable giving him game-long immunity just because he claimed to be a jester!

wicked wrote:Joking around is fine, but it seems like you're using that as an excuse to cover up a slip?
So, vote XenHu

Beyond that, I suspect Senfive... he looks unstable, is accusing many people, while ignores what XenHu is doing... talking about others death.

I dont know anything about this Jester role, maybe someone could clarify, but if hes mafia and killing him wont give mafia scum the victory, whats the problem of killing him? We would most probably lynch a townie if no one get suspicious. So I think XenHu is the best option, at least if I didnt misunderstand the Jester thing.

I thought this was suspicious:
red bull wrote:but.... i must vote no lynch to early in the game... might kill one of the good ones
It looks too innocent to me... To me it seems a try to cheat me.
No lynch? Really? And then:

Senfive wrote:I honestly have to agree with red bull on this one. Way too early on and the chances of Hittin a Pro-Townie with a power role is way too high in a 25 man game. so therefore I am going to SFOS Fircoal and Machiavelli and Houssam and Master Bush and have to Vote No Lynch
4 SFOS, so serious accusations, and vote no lynch????

And supercram is also suspicious to me: he was the 1st to vote to XenHu, in page 4, if Im not wrong, unvoted under the jester excuse on page 6, then vote again to XenHu in page 6, and now, after voting to him twice, is talking about mob victim? XenHu is doing nothing to defend himself! Man, are you crazy?
Wow Marv! I didn't know you had it in you! You bring up some excellent points. I was going to post about supercram's on again off again vote romance with XenHu, but it seems you beat me to it. Very suspicious on the part of supercram.

Also, it should not be a secret that I have never been a fan of the No Lynch on the first day. Most people that suggest it is new however, and don't realize what a mistake it is. red bull might be off the hook for this one, but not Senfive. As you have stated, I do not like his major FOS's of people with not even a vote to lynch one of them. I am torn on whether to vote for supercram or Senfive at the moment. I believe we, as town, in games past have put guys up for lynch pretty hastily and with sloppy reason. Odds are we will make a mistake again this game, but we have to try and do better this time.

Vote: Xenhu

If XenHu turns out to be mafia, then it should be apparent that supercram is as well for trying to protect him when the going got a little tough.

I have always always said no lynch in most of my games. Better to lose one townie at night then possibly killing a Pro-town Power role and then losing another at night. Not to metion the possiblity of a serial killer. I ask the cop to investigate me if you all wanna suspect me. I have made perfectly clear I am townie if you read my posts and look carefully.