[Official] Germany Revamp

[pepperonibread]

You should take a grunge brush and use the burn tool on this map. Give it some sinisterness.

Workin on it right now. I've been trying out some hi-res brushes lately, and some pretty cool stuff is coming of it so far.

[mibi]

You should take a grunge brush and use the burn tool on this map. Give it some sinisterness.

Workin on it right now. I've been trying out some hi-res brushes lately, and some pretty cool stuff is coming of it so far.

cool. you really don't need high res brushes for 72dpi work. espeically with the burn tool where you should be able to see the brush work at all. leep the opacity low on those brushes, sub 5%, ya heard.

[pepperonibread]

New update:

Large:

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Small:



Large 88's XML Test:

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Small 88's XML Test:



Large 888's XML Test:

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Small 888's XML Test:



XML Link: http://h1.ripway.com/pepperonibread/Germany.xml

Changes:
-Just one: Added some significant grunge effects to the image. I think it turned out really well, though I suppose it is often personal preference when considering how "clean" a map should be. Comments are encouraged as always, actually more than usual because I wanna get this going despite my slowness in updating.

To do:
-Fix 88's, if any are off-center or misplaced.
-Comments?

[MrBenn]

This looks truly wonderful... the grunge adds some feeling to the map, and gives it a certain je ne c'est quoi!

My final nit-pick, is a request to switch the dark/light red, so that the darker red is on the bigger region, which will reflect the colours of the flag a bit more accurately. Having said that, it really isn't important at this stage - I can almost smell the quench stamp

[the.killing.44]

I can almost smell the quench stamp

He needs the XML stamp, silly!



This looks awesome.
.44

[pepperonibread]

I can almost smell the quench stamp

He needs the XML stamp, silly!



This looks awesome.
.44

Wow, I haven't been to the foundry in a while... you have that authority!? I'll take it in any case.

This looks truly wonderful... the grunge adds some feeling to the map, and gives it a certain je ne c'est quoi!

My final nit-pick, is a request to switch the dark/light red, so that the darker red is on the bigger region, which will reflect the colours of the flag a bit more accurately. Having said that, it really isn't important at this stage - I can almost smell the quench stamp

Okey doke here are your two options then. Note that I didn't update the minimap on the edited version yet:

Dark on Left
Dark on Right

My opinion here: The image feels slightly more balanced with all darks on one side. In fact I think the balance issue was the reason why this ordering was decided on in the first place.

[MrBenn]

I prefer the edited version - but at the end of the day, I think I can leave you to call this one

[pepperonibread]

Thanks Benn. Anyone else have stuff to add?

[RjBeals]

the darks look better on the right side. good call ben. I say quench this mofo and get it into beta... for christs sake.

[sully800]

Looks great to me! I as well prefer dark on the right.

[pepperonibread]

Cool guys, glad you like it.

Final concerns...?

[MrBenn]

Pep... Which version have you decided on? I'm getting itchy fingers...

Once you've decided that, please post the links to the large/small images and the XML, and I'll re-ink the Beta stamp

[pepperonibread]

i decided to stick with the current one. Sorry for the delay, I was on vaykayshun... your links will be up tonight.

[pepperonibread]

Large Map:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5660/ger ... mp013l.jpg

Small map:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3623/ger ... mp013s.jpg

XML File:
http://h1.ripway.com/pepperonibread/Germany.xml

These haven't changed since the above update, I just moved to imageshack to remove some unwanted jpeg compression.

[MrBenn]

• • • • Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Germany Revamp. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

• • • • • • 

--MrBenn

[iancanton]

congrats, pep!

ian.

[owenshooter]

why did the match i am in right now just switch over to this map? sigh...-0

[MrBenn]

Looks like the map is up

[pepperonibread]

Hooray!?!?
Thanks everybody for the support. I'm glad all this is finally completed. It only took me a year and a half.

[thenobodies80]

Congrats!

[RjBeals]

nice work pep. You've got a really nice style, and this is a great looking revamp.

[Bruceswar]

Sorry I hate to be the one to rain on your parade. Nice map for sure, but I have now been asked by 3 dutch people why there is the German Eagle on their country. During WW II Germans Occupied Holland aka Netherlands and that eagle was used as a means to show dominance. Many people from Holland to this day still do not like that eagle emblem. With that said it would be like having a map of Israel with the Palestine Flag on top of it. Just not a good idea. Is there nothing that can be done to correct this? I thoughts maps were not supposed to have anything that could be seen as bigotry on it?

I will wait to see what the rest of you all say.

[ben79]

Sorry I hate to be the one to rain on your parade. Nice map for sure, but I have now been asked by 3 dutch people why there is the German Eagle on their country. During WW II Germans Occupied Holland aka Netherlands and that eagle was used as a means to show dominance. Many people from Holland to this day still do not like that eagle emblem. With that said it would be like having a map of Israel with the Palestine Flag on top of it. Just not a good idea. Is there nothing that can be done to correct this? I thoughts maps were not supposed to have anything that could be seen as bigotry on it?

I will wait to see what the rest of you all say.

that eagle goes back to the 13th century and probably before that, do your historical lessons

[Incandenza]

Sorry I hate to be the one to rain on your parade. Nice map for sure, but I have now been asked by 3 dutch people why there is the German Eagle on their country. During WW II Germans Occupied Holland aka Netherlands and that eagle was used as a means to show dominance. Many people from Holland to this day still do not like that eagle emblem. With that said it would be like having a map of Israel with the Palestine Flag on top of it. Just not a good idea. Is there nothing that can be done to correct this? I thoughts maps were not supposed to have anything that could be seen as bigotry on it?

I will wait to see what the rest of you all say.

Your analogy is flawed. Certainly a map of Israel, dominated by a Palestinian flag, would be a bad idea. The Germany map, however, is a map of Germany, and the Netherlands are part of the unplayable map background, underneath about as neutral a symbol of modern Germany as you're likely to find.

And honestly, if there are Dutch folks who feel offended, let them come and air their grievances. Outrage is much more credible and pathos-inducing when not conveyed by an intermediary.

I swear, every revamp is like this. One could revamp a map with such skill that the resulting image literally induces religious-experience-type orgasms when gazed upon, and people would still complain.

[RjBeals]

I swear, every revamp is like this. One could revamp a map with such skill that the resulting image literally induces religious-experience-type orgasms when gazed upon, and people would still complain.

Rj can you please change the territory named of Rio Negro it kind of insults me and I don't approve of it.

This was a complaint when I revamped Brazil... go figure.