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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby juventino on Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:26 pm

It could be good with some focus in the thread since alot of people, me included, has missunderstod the accusation by JOHNNYROCKET24.

This thread and the accusation from JOHNNYROCKET24 is about playing noobs, playing ?. And so called noob-farming.
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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby Hoagy on Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:26 am

Here are the results of the games.

Game 5200274 USA South-East.....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades.....Bosses win and gain 45 points
Game 5200263 USA Rockies.........Bosses v Hoagy & juventino......Hoagy & juventino win and gain 11 points
Game 5200260 USA New England....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades....Hoagy & Renegades win and gain 10 points

Although I myself was on the winning team in two out of three games, the net points loss was 24 points.

Conversely, the new recruits gained 24 points, a result I would say that they are pleased with.

I'm also pleased with the result, despite the overall points loss. I achieved my objective of defeating 5 unique opponents on the New England map and got to try out the other two maps. In all three games, the Bosses proved to be good players, thoroughly deserved the win they got, and at times it looked as if they might win at least one of the other two.

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My final point in all of this is that the points scoring system itself is fair, the handicapping mechanism ensures that, with fair play, consistently playing lower-ranked players will, on average, ultimately lose points, not gain them. The above games therefore demonstrate that "newbie-farming" can be unproductive.

Now, for those of you who cannot rationalise this, nor see the wisdom in avoiding "newbie-farming", accusing others of the same, or even baiting people to "newbie farm", I leave you to your pathetic quibbling on this matter.
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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby BoganGod on Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:29 am

Hoagy wrote:Here are the results of the games.

Game 5200274 USA South-East.....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades.....Bosses win and gain 45 points
Game 5200263 USA Rockies.........Bosses v Hoagy & juventino......Hoagy & juventino win and gain 11 points
Game 5200260 USA New England....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades....Hoagy & Renegades win and gain 10 points

Although I myself was on the winning team in two out of three games, the net points loss was 24 points.

Conversely, the new recruits gained 24 points, a result I would say that they are pleased with.

I'm also pleased with the result, despite the overall points loss. I achieved my objective of defeating 5 unique opponents on the New England map and got to try out the other two maps. In all three games, the Bosses proved to be good players, thoroughly deserved the win they got, and at times it looked as if they might win at least one of the other two.

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Your wasting your time mate, those that go on witch hunts, are often incapable/unwilling to applying rational thought to an opposing argument. If their minds are already made up, any rational rebuttal of their accusations will be as futile as a fart in a gale. I give all posters the benefit of the doubt, and hope they are able to see reason.

My final point in all of this is that the points scoring system itself is fair, the handicapping mechanism ensures that, with fair play, consistently playing lower-ranked players will, on average, ultimately lose points, not gain them. The above games therefore demonstrate that "newbie-farming" can be unproductive.

Now, for those of you who cannot rationalise this, nor see the wisdom in avoiding "newbie-farming", accusing others of the same, or even baiting people to "newbie farm", I leave you to your pathetic quibbling on this matter.
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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:42 am

Hoagy wrote:Here are the results of the games.

Game 5200274 USA South-East.....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades.....Bosses win and gain 45 points
Game 5200263 USA Rockies.........Bosses v Hoagy & juventino......Hoagy & juventino win and gain 11 points
Game 5200260 USA New England....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades....Hoagy & Renegades win and gain 10 points

Although I myself was on the winning team in two out of three games, the net points loss was 24 points.

Conversely, the new recruits gained 24 points, a result I would say that they are pleased with.

I'm also pleased with the result, despite the overall points loss. I achieved my objective of defeating 5 unique opponents on the New England map and got to try out the other two maps. In all three games, the Bosses proved to be good players, thoroughly deserved the win they got, and at times it looked as if they might win at least one of the other two.

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My final point in all of this is that the points scoring system itself is fair, the handicapping mechanism ensures that, with fair play, consistently playing lower-ranked players will, on average, ultimately lose points, not gain them. The above games therefore demonstrate that "newbie-farming" can be unproductive.

Now, for those of you who cannot rationalise this, nor see the wisdom in avoiding "newbie-farming", accusing others of the same, or even baiting people to "newbie farm", I leave you to your pathetic quibbling on this matter.

punishment should fit the crime.
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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby BoganGod on Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:48 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Hoagy wrote:Here are the results of the games.

Game 5200274 USA South-East.....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades.....Bosses win and gain 45 points
Game 5200263 USA Rockies.........Bosses v Hoagy & juventino......Hoagy & juventino win and gain 11 points
Game 5200260 USA New England....Bosses v Hoagy & Renegades....Hoagy & Renegades win and gain 10 points

Although I myself was on the winning team in two out of three games, the net points loss was 24 points.

Conversely, the new recruits gained 24 points, a result I would say that they are pleased with.

I'm also pleased with the result, despite the overall points loss. I achieved my objective of defeating 5 unique opponents on the New England map and got to try out the other two maps. In all three games, the Bosses proved to be good players, thoroughly deserved the win they got, and at times it looked as if they might win at least one of the other two.

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My final point in all of this is that the points scoring system itself is fair, the handicapping mechanism ensures that, with fair play, consistently playing lower-ranked players will, on average, ultimately lose points, not gain them. The above games therefore demonstrate that "newbie-farming" can be unproductive.

Now, for those of you who cannot rationalise this, nor see the wisdom in avoiding "newbie-farming", accusing others of the same, or even baiting people to "newbie farm", I leave you to your pathetic quibbling on this matter.

punishment should fit the crime.


What crime? No crime committed. Come on Johny I expect better from you, your a smart rational member of CC, drop the personal grudge thing, and the crusade, they weren't farming in this instance. I'm sure you are a big enough person to acknowledge that. :D :) :?: In fact I'm very sure you are capable of doing just that.
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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby king sam on Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:25 pm

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BoganGod wrote:Post me a link stating that it is against the rules to join an open game? If they are still in waiting games, they have not been judged to be multis at that time.


LFAW Warned for abusing new system of kicking multis out of a game
lancehoch wrote:LFAW has been Warned for abusing the new system of kicking multis out of a game. This thread will remain locked since people cannot seem to remain on topic.


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juventino wrote:Ok. Then I can adress it as I did earlier. How can it be against the rules to join one game with a new recruit. It is against the rules to systematically "farming" new recruits. Is is not systematically if you play one game out of 500 against a new recruit.

Or is it?

Pre-Meditated Malice quote below can be found here
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alstergren wrote:Nice catch. Now the 10 000 dollar question is, who will quickly snap up and join the three open games for the free points? :D

no-one? then I will do it =)


Juventino it was obvious that you suspected those users as multis and you knowingly joined the awaiting games with those users in them for the benefit of the free points once they were kicked out as per the new rule. Whether or not they have/will be BUSTED is besides the point to be quite honest, cause you showed the intent to do wrong, and in the other thread quoted above your other posts in there you openly admit to it, and your corrective answer is "to remove the games.No points. No nothing"

I don't see the discussion or arguing points in your favor seeing as what you have already came clean to in both of these threads. To me its obvious you chose to participate in a sort of behavior that is against the rules (check the LFAW thread above). Regardless the verdict of the multi accusation on those other members your intent was to join in hopes to get the free points.

Which is kinda why I think that thread hasn't been ruled upon yet, to let the point system in those games to be decided by the game. Either way I think this kind of behavior deserves a WARNING.

Ever since your name came up in a itty bitty thread about Ratings Abuse you have done nothing but disgruntle things around the site. I had never heard of you until then, I get it that your bent out of shape about a ruling against you that you felt was unjustified, but acting out like this is not the way to credit your good name. May I suggest letting it go, and continuing on enjoying this site and game like you had been before. Stay out of the limelight

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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby king achilles on Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:51 am

juventino wrote:
alstergren wrote:Nice catch. Now the 10 000 dollar question is, who will quickly snap up and join the three open games for the free points? :D

no-one? then I will do it =)

juventino has been warned.

Are there any posts or evidence that Hoagy and Renegades knew of the thread where Biggest_Boss and Like_A_Boss43 were reported for being multi accounts? If none, then this is noted of them.
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Re: Hoagy/Renegades/juventino

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:21 am

king achilles wrote:
juventino wrote:
alstergren wrote:Nice catch. Now the 10 000 dollar question is, who will quickly snap up and join the three open games for the free points? :D

no-one? then I will do it =)

juventino has been warned.

Are there any posts or evidence that Hoagy and Renegades knew of the thread where Biggest_Boss and Like_A_Boss43 were reported for being multi accounts? If none, then this is noted of them.

King A

this thread is for Renegades and Company noob farming on new recruits. See game numbers in original post. Not the fact that they knew the 2 accounts were multis although now I see that thread is updated to "pending".
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