Logic dictates that there is a God!

[StiffMittens]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

Right, because nobody, in the entire history of human existence, ever invented anything or adapted their behavior to fit new circumstances.

[Snorri1234]

On the issue of science, I have concluded that much of it is based on speculation.


Take this for example:




Now HOW do they know this? Have they taken subs though the mantle and discovered a "solid core"?

HOLY MOTHER OF FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING SHITCAKES!!!

Woopwoop, seismological studies is not actual proof. The earth's atmosphere doesn't consist of oxygen, carbondioxide and nitrogen among others, but actually free-floating borium and heated fantasticum.




Jesus jay, you really, really, really don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, do you?

[Snorri1234]

No seriously guys, the whole thing about a "solid" inner-core is made up. It was just a ploy by us savvy atheists to make fun of religious people.

[neanderpaul14]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

As does the argument of "this book said so".

No.......no......no If it was written in a book then it must be true.

I've read many books about vampires and werewolves and my house is now filled with garlic and wooden stakes and my guns are now loaded with silver bullets.

im a vampire lol

See those wooden stakes were worth every penny.

[StiffMittens]

No seriously guys, the whole thing about a "solid" inner-core is made up. It was just a ploy by us savvy atheists to make fun of religious people.

I thought it was an excuse to not believe in hell, so we could do whatever the f*ck we want and not have to worry about eternal punishment.

[jay_a2j]

Now i also ask of you this o god believers, why do you believe, do you fear going to hell, because tech if your only believing to save your own soul... well is that not selfish and something your god and bible try to teach you not to be? and if you were sick, can you not just think that maybe you got lucky, your body had somethin goin on, environmental or otherwise that kept you from dieing? I ask this of you and await your answer and will listen and wont judge you for it...

I believe because after first believing as "a child" my faith has grown stronger. To the point that I can safely say that I no longer "believe" in God but rather "know" there is a God. Something that can not be proven to another accept through witness. It's no so much the fear of hell that scares me but rather the separation from God. As for my healing, I might have considered this an 18 year remission, if I hadn't physically felt the healing that Spring day in 1991 as well as believe that God can indeed heal.

[morph]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

As does the argument of "this book said so".

No.......no......no If it was written in a book then it must be true.

I've read many books about vampires and werewolves and my house is now filled with garlic and wooden stakes and my guns are now loaded with silver bullets.

im a vampire lol

See those wooden stakes were worth every penny.

Garlic dont work and neither does the stakes, though they make good tooth picks after i eat your brain!!

[neanderpaul14]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

As does the argument of "this book said so".


No.......no......no If it was written in a book then it must be true.

I've read many books about vampires and werewolves and my house is now filled with garlic and wooden stakes and my guns are now loaded with silver bullets.

im a vampire lol

See those wooden stakes were worth every penny.

Garlic dont work and neither does the stakes, though they make good tooth picks after i eat your brain!!

Ahhhhhhhh.........run away....

[Snorri1234]

Now i also ask of you this o god believers, why do you believe, do you fear going to hell, because tech if your only believing to save your own soul... well is that not selfish and something your god and bible try to teach you not to be? and if you were sick, can you not just think that maybe you got lucky, your body had somethin goin on, environmental or otherwise that kept you from dieing? I ask this of you and await your answer and will listen and wont judge you for it...

I believe because after first believing as "a child" my faith has grown stronger. To the point that I can safely say that I no longer "believe" in God but rather "know" there is a God. Something that can not be proven to another accept through witness. It's no so much the fear of hell that scares me but rather the separation from God. As for my healing, I might have considered this an 18 year remission, if I hadn't physically felt the healing that Spring day in 1991 as well as believe that God can indeed heal.

Seriously though Jay, I want to know what you think about seismology.

[neanderpaul14]

If I were going to devote my life to an ancient book I would much prefer the Kama Sutra

[morph]

If I were going to devote my life to an ancient book I would much prefer the Kama Sutra

lol o come on be original , do somethin like the X-men comics and tryin to make those come true..

[neanderpaul14]

If I were going to devote my life to an ancient book I would much prefer the Kama Sutra

lol o come on be original , do somethin like the X-men comics and tryin to make those come true..

That would be cool......can I be Magneto??

[morph]

Now i also ask of you this o god believers, why do you believe, do you fear going to hell, because tech if your only believing to save your own soul... well is that not selfish and something your god and bible try to teach you not to be? and if you were sick, can you not just think that maybe you got lucky, your body had somethin goin on, environmental or otherwise that kept you from dieing? I ask this of you and await your answer and will listen and wont judge you for it...

I believe because after first believing as "a child" my faith has grown stronger. To the point that I can safely say that I no longer "believe" in God but rather "know" there is a God. Something that can not be proven to another accept through witness. It's no so much the fear of hell that scares me but rather the separation from God. As for my healing, I might have considered this an 18 year remission, if I hadn't physically felt the healing that Spring day in 1991 as well as believe that God can indeed heal.

i Dont judge you, and I appreciate your faith and such, but imma quickly point out that ppl with schizophrenia (did i actually just spell that?) also "know" that the stuff is real that is happening to them... (btw i dont care about ppls faith, i just like to argue, and this is fun for me, i don't think anyone here is gonna change their views..) soooo... ya schizophrenia and "knowing" there is a god... hm k..

[morph]

A few words from Bash.org

Mjordan2nd: If you could be any fictional character, who would you be?
Chris: Spider Man
Tim: batman
Sidd: batman
Mjordan2nd: I'd be god

[jay_a2j]

Now i also ask of you this o god believers, why do you believe, do you fear going to hell, because tech if your only believing to save your own soul... well is that not selfish and something your god and bible try to teach you not to be? and if you were sick, can you not just think that maybe you got lucky, your body had somethin goin on, environmental or otherwise that kept you from dieing? I ask this of you and await your answer and will listen and wont judge you for it...

I believe because after first believing as "a child" my faith has grown stronger. To the point that I can safely say that I no longer "believe" in God but rather "know" there is a God. Something that can not be proven to another accept through witness. It's no so much the fear of hell that scares me but rather the separation from God. As for my healing, I might have considered this an 18 year remission, if I hadn't physically felt the healing that Spring day in 1991 as well as believe that God can indeed heal.

i Dont judge you, and I appreciate your faith and such, but imma quickly point out that ppl with schizophrenia (did i actually just spell that?) also "know" that the stuff is real that is happening to them... (btw i dont care about ppls faith, i just like to argue, and this is fun for me, i don't think anyone here is gonna change their views..) soooo... ya schizophrenia and "knowing" there is a god... hm k..

Yes, yes, yes that explains it. I'm schizo!

[MeDeFe]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Why?

Because He is. No reason, just because He is.

Well, in that case he'd better start doing something to show that he isn't a waste of time and space.

[jay_a2j]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Why?

Because He is. No reason, just because He is.

Well, in that case he'd better start doing something to show that he isn't a waste of time and space.

Just curious, what are you doing to show that you aren't a waste of time and space?

[MeDeFe]

There is a God.

Why?

Because He is. No reason, just because He is.

Well, in that case he'd better start doing something to show that he isn't a waste of time and space.

Just curious, what are you doing to show that you aren't a waste of time and space?

Posting on an internet forum counts.

Later.

[Haggis_McMutton]

No seriously guys, the whole thing about a "solid" inner-core is made up. It was just a ploy by us savvy atheists to make fun of religious people.

Shit, wtf man?
Why'd you spill the beans?

Now it's only a matter of time before they realize that plate tectonics are bullshit, meant to cover up that earthquakes occur when god is pissed off.
I mean seriously, huge rocks slowly moving below the earth, seriously.

[Haggis_McMutton]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

So humans are the only species that transmit messages through sound?

[KLOBBER]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

God f*ck no. You still believe in that argument?

Like seriously? Like, you don't believe that animal communication exists?

No animal has ever taught a human being to speak, with the possible exception of Snorri.

In addition, the science of linguistics adds much weight to Jay's point. Language historians know for a fact that, as time goes by, languages are getting less and less complex, and easier and easier to learn. Sanskrit, for example, is now basically impossible for any human being to learn and speak fluently, whereas it was formerly learned and spoken fluently by millions. Latin is also much more complex and difficult to learn than its modern descendant languages, and there are many more examples.

Even English is getting simpler, not more complex, as time passes.

Human beings are not gaining intelligence as historical time passes; they are losing it. Language is but one of the many clear examples, in easily provable, real-life terms, of the devolution of man, and evidence that "evolution" from lower forms to higher ones is an out-and-out myth.

[Timminz]

Proof is not the same as evidence. You have just explain what you believe to be evidence of devolution. Not proof.

Highly unscientific, and unintelligent.

[KLOBBER]

Proof is not the same as evidence. You have just explain what you believe to be evidence of devolution. Not proof.

Highly unscientific, and unintelligent.

I have posted facts, not beliefs -- belief is your specialty.

[xelabale]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

God f*ck no. You still believe in that argument?

Like seriously? Like, you don't believe that animal communication exists?

No animal has ever taught a human being to speak, with the possible exception of Snorri.

In addition, the science of linguistics adds much weight to Jay's point. Language historians know for a fact that, as time goes by, languages are getting less and less complex, and easier and easier to learn. Sanskrit, for example, is now basically impossible for any human being to learn and speak fluently, whereas it was formerly learned and spoken fluently by millions. Latin is also much more complex and difficult to learn than its modern descendant languages, and there are many more examples.

Even English is getting simpler, not more complex, as time passes.

Human beings are not gaining intelligence as historical time passes; they are losing it. Language is but one of the many clear examples, in easily provable, real-life terms, of the devolution of man, and evidence that "evolution" from lower forms to higher ones is an out-and-out myth.

Lol your argument that evolution can't exist is based on the evolution of language

There are many theories as to how speech evolved - it's existence poses no threat to evolution, it in fact underlines it. Many animals communicate. There is a clear evolutionary advantage to ascribing meaning to sound, so it is natural that speech should evolve.

Behaviourism has been completely discredited as a hypothesis for language acquisition - see chomsky for a legendary intellectual pwning. He so thoroughly dismantled that idea he got bored of linguistics and moved onto other stuff.

Klobber - English is getting simpler? How-so? I reject that idea 100%.

[KLOBBER]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

God f*ck no. You still believe in that argument?

Like seriously? Like, you don't believe that animal communication exists?

No animal has ever taught a human being to speak, with the possible exception of Snorri.

In addition, the science of linguistics adds much weight to Jay's point. Language historians know for a fact that, as time goes by, languages are getting less and less complex, and easier and easier to learn. Sanskrit, for example, is now basically impossible for any human being to learn and speak fluently, whereas it was formerly learned and spoken fluently by millions. Latin is also much more complex and difficult to learn than its modern descendant languages, and there are many more examples.

Even English is getting simpler, not more complex, as time passes.

Human beings are not gaining intelligence as historical time passes; they are losing it. Language is but one of the many clear examples, in easily provable, real-life terms, of the devolution of man, and evidence that "evolution" from lower forms to higher ones is an out-and-out myth.

Lol your argument that evolution can't exist is based on the evolution of language...

No, the devolution of language, which is the exact opposite.

There are many theories as to how speech evolved....

Each one BS.