Logic dictates that there is a God!

[Neoteny]

Did someone say ring species?

[MaleAlphaThree]

I luv gawd. I taste is spurm in ma but und i luv it so. Pweeze gawd, stop tuching me so hard. Pweeze.

[PLAYER57832]

God Exists! By an 8TH grader telling you off! Atheists be ware of frustration!
#1 Since when did destruction (big bang) create life. tell me when the last time that happened!

A. BELIEF IN EVOLUTION IN NO WAY PRECLUDES BELIEF IN GOD.

So, most of your arguments properly belong in the Creation Thread begun by Widowmakers.

That said, here are your answers:

#2 Why did "scientist" find the fossils for the caber toothed tiger thousands of miles apart from each other?

YOu will have to give more specifics, for the exact answer. However, the answers are easy:

1. travel You can currently find black bears and deer all over North America and even into South America.

2. continental drift. (aka Plate Techtonics) (google, or simply visit the Cal Berkeley geolog website if you don't know what that is)

#3 The Bible stated the earth went around the sun before the first "scientist" figured it out.

Which is why Copernicus got such a favorable reception from the Christian community of his day, I suppose?

#4 Now I need you to look this up the Bible says that Babylon would never be rebuilt... See how far Saddam Hu Cane come in its Reconstruction people died from "accidents" and all the further he could get built is the gateway in your face Atheists!
#5 Go to Egypt "Scientists" say the records there are accurate. Why is the story of Josef there?

You will have to clarify here. What does this even have to do with logic dicating there is a God?

#6 a sample from the believed arc was sent to a carbon dating center yep BC then it was sent there unlabeled several million years old does this sound right???

No, for one thing the true arc is yet unknown. There are theories and ideas, but nothing firm.

#7 "Scientists" them selfs state that an organism can not gain nor lose chromosomes so how did animals evolve?

Scientists do not say this. You are misinformed.

Further, as I said before this is irrelevent to whether God exists or not.

#8 Communism is a atheist country with a dictator who attempts to force it upon them

Your point? Any relevance?

#9 the end day prophecies there will be wars and rumors of wars... tragedies of earthquakes, fire, storms will be more severe

And such have been happening throughout the history of humankind. Sort of like saying "God predicted that we would have a sunrise tommorrow". Yes, but it proves nothing!

#10

Kinda like how 1 and -1 together makes 0

the natural tendency of mater and anti mater is to cancel out

relevance?

#11

I think that trying to use religion as a science or science as a religion is wrong

Bible "a man can't serve two masters" I'm pretty sure that is not rocket science
#12

Nothing is certain

there is not one Bible prophecy proved to be wrong, if so show me it I dare you

Some are yet to pass, but no, I don't believe any are wrong.

As for the "man can't serve two masters". I serve God, but truth is a part of that. Scientists seek proof through proof, through evidence, through set procedures and techniques that are fully verifiable (or it is not considered proof).

Religion seeks truth through faith and belief. In the case of Christianity, through the Bible.

There is no conflict, no more than saying that 1 + 1= 2, even though it is not specified to do so in the Bible. If you wish to question something, then question the use to which Christians have put science and the great and enormous abuses of the earth, the living beings that God put here for our benefit and the complete disdain for people of other cultures that is so very often been combined into Christianity. (falsely)

#13

China (the "Army of the East")... Russia ( the "Army to the North") will attack Israel but be destroyed by China.

This is wrong taken out of context Army of North=God's side Army of South=Devil
#14 Just because God lets everyone make their own chaises it does not mean that he doesn't interfere with the world
#15 Challenge

I have Jesus and you can't top that authority buddy! But since you claim to be an OM lets put you to the test.....

1. Moses 2. John 3. it is referring to the death of Jesus died on Friday the "new" temple is in heaven 4. sacrifice a pure lamb 5. the lamb represented Christ Jesus 6."sell all thy goods and follow me"-Jesus talking to prince (how did I do PS I didn't use a reference)

I am lost... and I am pretty familiar with the stories supposedly referenced here!

#16 Adaptation is not evolution... evolution is where the original can no longer produce with the new which has never happened

BALONEY!
Trying to define words the way you like is nothing better than lying. Sorry, that is NOT what Christianity is about. In fact, seems like not bearing false testimony was a specific commandment direct from God, so ask your teachers to explain why they find it so necessary to outright lie.

The TRUTH is that evolution, small "e" refers to any change over time. This is not just limited to biology (eg evolution of an idea, etc.) However, it does refer to both gradual and sudden changes over time, great and small changes.

Evolution (big "E") refers to a specific scientific theory having to do with the origin of life on Earth. It specifies that things began from ... gee, "dust" (aka earth), then progressively changed until we have the full diversity of life that we see here, including humanity. The full path of how this all happened is not known. However, there are significant pieces known, enough that the chances that this overall theory is incorrect are phenomenally small. Essentially, the other alternative is that God created the Earth to look as if it were created gradually, through Evolution (NOT what Creationists put forward!).

#17 Sodom and Gomorrah have sulfur (brimstone) there from where god sent it down from the heavens

I shall continue to edit this post and add more (PS send me a pm so i can respond but also put it on the post)(I've referenced with the first 23 pages and my own personal responses)

Anyway, I believe the Bible, and believe there is God, but your logic and reasoning do Christianity a discredit. That you are in the 8th grade is part of an excuse, but you are old enough to be held responsible for verifying information you put forward.

[PLAYER57832]

Yes, both those things are absurd. What possible reason would you have for assuming serious Christian theologians in this day and age subscribe to belief in these things?

Augustine certainly didn't, but a remarkable number of evangelicals do.

Belief in angels, perhaps, but considering them something that can dance upon the head of a pin and that this information has any relevence... NOPE!

[morph]

"Personally its not God I dislike, its his fan club I cant stand"
imma just place this here....

[neanderpaul14]

"Personally its not God I dislike, its his fan club I cant stand"

[jay_a2j]

It's not the sinner God dislikes,it's the sin He can't stand.

[Timminz]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

[jay_a2j]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

[neanderpaul14]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Prove it.

[MeDeFe]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Why?

[jay_a2j]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Prove it.

See original post.

[jay_a2j]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Why?

Because He is. No reason, just because He is.

[Timminz]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Prove it.

See original post.

The original post losses any creditability it had(read:none), when it tried to tie this in.

Science also dictates evolution could never have happened

[neanderpaul14]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Prove it.

See original post.

You mean all that mindless dribble that just quotes from a 2000 year old book??

FWI I've read books about unicorns and mermaids, just because it's written down doesn't make it so.

[jay_a2j]

The title of this thread is insulting to rational people. How dare you sully the name of logic like this?!

There is a God.

Prove it.

See original post.

The original post losses any creditability it had(read:none), when it tried to tie this in.

Science also dictates evolution could never have happened

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

[Timminz]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

As does the argument of "this book said so".

[neanderpaul14]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

As does the argument of "this book said so".

No.......no......no If it was written in a book then it must be true.

I've read many books about vampires and werewolves and my house is now filled with garlic and wooden stakes and my guns are now loaded with silver bullets.

[morph]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

As does the argument of "this book said so".

No.......no......no If it was written in a book then it must be true.

I've read many books about vampires and werewolves and my house is now filled with garlic and wooden stakes and my guns are now loaded with silver bullets.

im a vampire lol

[jay_a2j]

On the issue of science, I have concluded that much of it is based on speculation.


Take this for example:




Now HOW do they know this? Have they taken subs though the mantle and discovered a "solid core"?

[Timminz]

On the issue of science, I have concluded that much of it is based on speculation.


Take this for example:




Now HOW do they know this? Have they taken subs though the mantle and discovered a "solid core"?

No. But there's a book that says so, so we have no way to disprove it.

[neanderpaul14]

On the issue of science, I have concluded that much of it is based on speculation.


Take this for example:




Now HOW do they know this? Have they taken subs though the mantle and discovered a "solid core"?

Oh maybe "god" told them.

[jay_a2j]

Oh maybe "god" told them.

Wow, such a well thought out rebuttal! OMG! We have Einstein Jr. on our hands! "Maybe God told them" now what better answer to the question could we possibly hope for?


Obviously the kids are off for Memorial weekend....

[Snorri1234]

Evolution could not have happened if for no other of the countless reasons than the issue of speech. Speech is a learned behavior, so if man came from a lower life form, who then taught him to speak? (please save the "one grunt meant yes and two grunts meant no which later evolved to audible speech" hypothesis. It holds as much water as a fishing net)

God f*ck no. You still believe in that argument?

Like seriously? Like, you don't believe that animal communication exists?

[morph]

On the issue of science, I have concluded that much of it is based on speculation.


Take this for example:




Now HOW do they know this? Have they taken subs though the mantle and discovered a "solid core"?

well i could go into this but imma just say this one thing

Science only says it is theory, meaning anything could come along and disprove it providing it has enough fact behind it.... there for science is always evolving... where as your religion is sayin "here Faith means it is fact, but we have no proof that there is a omnipresent being out there pulling the strings, also we have no proof except for this book that Jesus Christ had these magical powers, o and please forget that many members of the church used to sit there and allow people to buy their salvation, no that wasnt greed, which is a sin, that was salvation" ooo yes.. that makes sense, the bible and Christianity is not full of hypocrites at all, never.. and we never try to hide it at all, and when ppl take qoutes from the bible that contradict each other, they go "o thats not what the mean, here is what they actually mean"

i dont believe at all, in science or god, cuz i really just dont care, but when ive noticed is at least science writes out so you cant interpret it to suit your own needs, but o my what does the bible do, it lets you always shape it into your own way...


Now i also ask of you this o god believers, why do you believe, do you fear going to hell, because tech if your only believing to save your own soul... well is that not selfish and something your god and bible try to teach you not to be? and if you were sick, can you not just think that maybe you got lucky, your body had somethin goin on, environmental or otherwise that kept you from dieing? I ask this of you and await your answer and will listen and wont judge you for it...