War of the Triple Alliance

[MrBenn]

I can't remember if you've tried it without the black borders over the river through the territory? That might help make it a bit clearer, and would make the name more visible...

Tried it, people didn't like it. I can go back to it, however. Here it is, from version 23.

That was me not explaining what I meant very well... What if the river banks weren't marked with a solid line? ie. the river could be whiter, but without the solid lines between the land and river

[oaktown]

That was me not explaining what I meant very well... What if the river banks weren't marked with a solid line? ie. the river could be whiter, but without the solid lines between the land and river

Or you explained it fine, but i read what I wanted to read.

Anyway, tried taking the lines out as well at one point, but it looked unfinished... as is the lines are lighter, hopefully enough to not suggest borders.

[Limey Lyons]

a small bridge perhaps?

[oaktown]

a small bridge perhaps?

also tried, several pages back. The trouble with the bridge is that usually bridges connect two territories on CC maps, which is not he case here. We can do any of these things... I'll play around with it more tonight.

[oaktown]

Click image to enlarge.

OK, this one I think I like. I've put Corrientes together with the borders spanning the river, left the river the color it should be (no more half-assed shading) and given the river softer banks within the territory.

[pamoa]

I would say it is better if you remove completely the black line bordering the river.

[MrBenn]

This Corrientes river issue must be driving you crazy...

Why not put up a couple of options for us to choose between, that range from the way it is now, through to no river at all in that territory...

Wehn presented with a couple of options that can be compared alongside one another, I think there's more likely to be consensus of opinion... as it is, I can see that people will quibble over it forever!

[Ruben Cassar]

Excuse my ignorance, but shouldn't that territory be called Buenos Aires instead of Buenos Ayres?

I don't know if this has been mentioned before or if there is a specific reason why the name is different.

[oaktown]

Excuse my ignorance, but shouldn't that territory be called Buenos Aires instead of Buenos Ayres?

"Buenos Ayres" was a common spelling in the 19th Century, especially among the British. In looking over old maps of the era many use this spelling. I have (sadly) changed many other outdated spelling conventions on this map at the insistence of speakers of both English and Portuguese who have stopped by, but I'd like to keep that one in particular because I think it helps place the map in the period.

As for Corrientes, I've spent much time playing with different options, and I'm editing those that I present. Removing the coast line entirely looks bad and I wouldn't be comfortable putting my name on it, so I'd rather not even risk presenting it as an option. Using a bridge would be confusing in my opinion, as bridges usually suggest connections between two territories.

[Ruben Cassar]

Excuse my ignorance, but shouldn't that territory be called Buenos Aires instead of Buenos Ayres?

"Buenos Ayres" was a common spelling in the 19th Century, especially among the British. In looking over old maps of the era many use this spelling. I have (sadly) changed many other outdated spelling conventions on this map at the insistence of speakers of both English and Portuguese who have stopped by, but I'd like to keep that one in particular because I think it helps place the map in the period.

Interesting fact. However what do the British and their spelling have to do with Argentina? It was under Spanish rule before becoming independent or were the British involved at a later stage? Just curious to know more and maybe slightly off topic.

[oaktown]

However what do the British and their spelling have to do with Argentina? It was under Spanish rule before becoming independent or were the British involved at a later stage? Just curious to know more and maybe slightly off topic.

A map has to be told from somebody's point of view... "Bolivian Claim" isn't a Spanish name. I'm a speaker of English making a map - we screw up all kinds of things regardless of the side of the pond in which we live.

[oaktown]

Seeing no other comments in the past week I'm going to assume the aforementioned suggested fix to corrientes is good and send new files to Lack. I've lightened the coasts along the corrientes borders, so here's what I'm sending...

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[yeti_c]

Just a note - THis is an extremely short thread for a Quenched map in todays forge.

Congrats Oak.

C.

[the.killing.44]

Just a note - THis is an extremely short thread for a Quenched map in todays forge.

Cairns Metro — 12 pages :O

Beautiful map, although I've yet to win here

.44

[cassianomonteiro]

The spoils from that map are wrong. 3x Green is giving 4 troops, and 3xBlue is giving 6 troops.

Please take a look at the game 4567460.

Cheers!

[iancanton]

The spoils from that map are wrong. 3x Green is giving 4 troops, and 3xBlue is giving 6 troops.

Please take a look at the game 4567460.

Cheers!

there's nothing wrong with the spoils. Game 4567460 has escalating bonuses, so the first set is worth 4 armies, the second set 6, the third set 8 and so on.

ian.

[Fireside Poet]

2009-04-17 19:56:33 - jjmracing gets spoils
2009-04-18 07:33:09 - King Tet receives 3 troops for 6 regions
2009-04-18 07:34:56 - King Tet deployed 2 troops on Espirito Santo
2009-04-18 07:35:21 - King Tet deployed 1 troops on Dourados
2009-04-18 07:35:36 - King Tet assaulted S. Ignacio from Dourados and conquered it from Fireside Poet
2009-04-18 07:39:14 - Incrementing game to round 5
2009-04-18 09:34:40 - Joshua Hayden receives 3 troops for 8 regions
2009-04-18 09:34:59 - Joshua Hayden deployed 3 troops on São Paulo
2009-04-18 09:35:06 - Joshua Hayden assaulted Paraná from São Paulo and conquered it from Fireside Poet
2009-04-18 09:35:16 - Joshua Hayden reinforced São Paulo with 1 troops from Paraná
2009-04-18 09:35:16 - Joshua Hayden gets spoils
2009-04-18 10:37:08 - sure receives 3 troops for 10 regions
2009-04-18 10:37:37 - sure deployed 2 troops on Curitiba
2009-04-18 10:37:41 - sure deployed 1 troops on Bahia Oriental
2009-04-18 10:37:55 - sure assaulted Paraná from Curitiba and conquered it from Joshua Hayden
2009-04-18 10:38:03 - sure gets spoils
2009-04-18 10:44:26 - Fireside Poet receives 3 troops for holding Paraguay
2009-04-18 10:44:26 - Fireside Poet receives 3 troops for 7 regions
2009-04-18 10:44:33 - Fireside Poet deployed 6 troops on Porto Alegre
2009-04-18 10:44:38 - Fireside Poet assaulted São Pedro from Porto Alegre and conquered it from King Tet
2009-04-18 10:47:28 - Fireside Poet gets spoils

Something is wrong with this and I am not sure what happened.
S. Ignacio is in Paraguay and I was clearly attacked and my bonus was broken before my turn and yet I received 3 troops for "holding" it. He also didn't receive any spoils. This is in Game 4652457. Ideas?

[Riazor]

This is likely to have been caused by that recent server problems ive been reading about? Some deployed armies (in the log) actually never appeared on the board.

[sudokU]

Concise description:

• In the "Triple Alliance" map there are several names of some territories that atract my attention.

Specifics:

• Those are: Cordova and Buenos Ayres. I'm not argentinien, I'm from Uruguay (next to it - sorry, my english is not the best). Have you done it like they will write it in that epoca? Because Is not Cordova, it's Cordoba, and Buenos Ayres is Buenos Aires...

[karelpietertje]

I don't live anywhere near South America, and don't know if this is maybe the local way of spelling it either,
but maybe you could ask it in the map's discussion topic.
it's located here

or you could send the maker of the map, oaktown, a PM.

[sudokU]

I send a message to the creator of the map and this is his answer:

"the Triple Alliance is supposed to represent a 19th Century map - some of the spellings used are 19th century English conventions, and were taken directly from maps of that era. In my maps I like to be true to the era I'm representing, even if it means doing things we know are wrong today.

I know that Buenos Aires (and other things) are spelled wrong, but that's how many european mapmakers spelled it 140 years ago!

thanks for taking interest,
oaktown"

[iancanton]

talking of misspellings, here is a genuine one: cordilheira geral is correct in the xml and on the large map, but is cordilhiera geral on the small map.

ian.

[oaktown]

If anybody cares enough to update it, here's the small image with spelling corrected. Hopefully I pulled up the correct version of the map.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... 0SMALL.jpg

Thanks to ian for the catch, and to Benn for bringing it to my attention.