Should we revive the Flame wars?

[salr15]

Of course where you're going isn't wrong, and doesn't need correcting to where you came from.

I'm probably not going to get conscripted by the British navy, but I might need to communicate using a commonly used phrase on the internet.

Careful boys, you are starting to have a semi intelligent conversation, there is no room for that in CC. We don't want our local locksmith locking this down. Please dumb it down a little.

[mpjh]

If you don't know where you are coming from, you will never be able to figure out where you are going.

But if you only look at the past, you'll never see the future, and you'll likely trip over the present.

Only if you can't chew gum and walk at the same time.

Coordination has very little to do with not watching where you're going.

It is just like looking both ways before crossing the street, just like your mother taught you.

[Timminz]

If you don't know where you are coming from, you will never be able to figure out where you are going.

But if you only look at the past, you'll never see the future, and you'll likely trip over the present.

Only if you can't chew gum and walk at the same time.

Coordination has very little to do with not watching where you're going.

It is just like looking both ways before crossing the street, just like your mother taught you.

I've highlighted the word I feel you may have missed at first glance.

[KLOBBER]

Why? Once a decision is taken we shouldn't question it? Once we went into Iraq we shouldn't question that decision? Really?

Questioning a decision over which you have zero authority is a waste of your own time and energy, and an annoyance to those who are exposed to your error.

[xelabale]

Why? Once a decision is taken we shouldn't question it? Once we went into Iraq we shouldn't question that decision? Really?

this is comparable to us going into iraq?

Oh, you haven't heard? The internet is serious business.

<insert clichéd image here>

Principle's the same. Should you not question a decision after it's made? Whatever that question is? I was simply using another example, any would do, but that one's eye-catching.

Why? Once a decision is taken we shouldn't question it? Once we went into Iraq we shouldn't question that decision? Really?

Questioning a decision over which you have zero authority is a waste of your own time and energy, and an annoyance to those who are exposed to your error.

Yup, if someone else make's a decision concerning me, I'll simply accept it. There's a difference between questioning a decision and getting it changed. The former is ABSOLUTELY fine, the latter may or may not happen depending on the situation. Why, Klobber, do you want to stifle all debate regarding FW? What are you afraid of? Free speech is scary, isn't it.... people might, shock, disagree with you!!!!!

/runs away screaming

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

And here we go again, the ANTI-FLAMERS flaming a thread. Yep, they populate a thread that they want C.C. "Thought Police' to lock down!

Why don't you ANTI-FLAMING FLAMERS start your own thread and leave us in peace? You guys say it's boring, repetitive and other blah, blah and more blahs, so then ignore us and stop trolling.

I'm personally sick and tired of the unequal justice that C.C. administrators are handing out to those they disagree with.

Big Brother is watching YOU. Welcome to 1984 and the land of double speak.

[salr15]

Yup, if someone else make's a decision concerning me, I'll simply accept it. There's a difference between questioning a decision and getting it changed. The former is ABSOLUTELY fine, the latter may or may not happen depending on the situation. Why, Klobber, do you want to stifle all debate regarding FW? What are you afraid of? Free speech is scary, isn't it.... people might, shock, disagree with you!!!!!
/runs away screaming

I think it's quite simple, unfortunately I wasn't in FW to witness it, but clearly from his actions Klobber must have taken a misstep and walked into FW and gotten his ass handed to him by someone/people. Now, most people would probably just shrug it off, have a laugh, flame back but he clearly took offense to it. So he's held a grudge ever since just waiting for the day...and that day has come and he is basking in his glory of FW being eliminated. I know, it's sad, but it is what it is.

I just find it funny how he says this thread is annoying but then he can't stop coming back constantly. Generally it's human nature that when something annoys you, you try and avoid it or get away from it.

that's why it's hard to take him seriously...even though I don't really think he's trying to be taken seriously.

[KLOBBER]

This website is not a champion of free speech, and has never advertised itself as such. You may have CC confused with Amnesty International or some other human rights organization.

Until you gather some capital and purchase this privately-owned website, you will simply have to put up with the policies favored by its present owner, or go elsewhere. I'm sorry if this fact frightens or angers you, but that's the nature of the "reality sandwich," sadly.

PS -- I never said that this thread was annoying. On the contrary, I LOVE this thread!

[JoshyBoy]

Ah well I've just decided to stop caring.

I enjoy reading other peoples' posts its so funny.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

This website is not a champion of free speech, and has never advertised itself as such. You may have CC confused with Amnesty International or some other human rights organization.

Until you gather some capital and purchase this privately-owned website, you will simply have to put up with the policies favored by its present owner, or go elsewhere. I'm sorry if this frightens or angers you, but that's the nature of the "reality sandwich," sadly.

Who made you the C.C "Thought Police"? Can't you take your ANTI-FLAMING FLAMES elsewhere and leave us alone with our civil discussion?

[KLOBBER]

This website is not a champion of free speech, and has never advertised itself as such. You may have CC confused with Amnesty International or some other human rights organization.

Until you gather some capital and purchase this privately-owned website, you will simply have to put up with the policies favored by its present owner, or go elsewhere. I'm sorry if this frightens or angers you, but that's the nature of the "reality sandwich," sadly.

Who made you the C.C "Thought Police"? Can't you take your ANTI-FLAMING FLAMES elsewhere and leave us alone with our civil discussion?

How do you mean?

[oVo]

There's nothing scary about a "reality sammich" except when it's kicking your butt.

[KLOBBER]

There's nothing scary about a "reality sammich" except when it's kicking your butt.

LOL, well said!

[Georgerx7di]

If you don't know where you are coming from, you will never be able to figure out where you are going.

But if you only look at the past, you'll never see the future, and you'll likely trip over the present.

And piss on the side.

As for the iraq comment, i think he meant going into 'irakistan' on doodle earth. : )

[salr15]

PS -- I never said that this thread was annoying. On the contrary, I LOVE this thread!

Questioning a decision over which you have zero authority is a waste of your own time and energy, and an annoyance to those who are exposed to your error.

HELP! I'm stuck in a web of hypocrisy and I can't get out!!

[The Fuzzy Pengui]

Since you didn't like KLOBBER's response, I'll go ahead and post one for you.

We not only have the usual suspects, but moderators trying to stifle what little free speech and free expression we have left.

You're posting on private forums on a privately owned website based out of Canada...you don't have free speech. Get over it.

[sailorseal]

It is not coming back if you want to flame go to a site where there is a Flame Wars like
http://gamerscentral.darkbb.com/forum.htm

Count me in, this place is getting more boring than a Sat night at Hysari's house.

Hey, I guess this site is what the people want


but really this whole thread is spam, NO IT IS NOT COMING BACK!
[case closed]

[KLOBBER]

I never said that this thread was annoying.

Questioning a decision over which you have zero authority is a waste of your own time and energy, and an annoyance to those who are exposed to your error.

Again, I never said this thread was annoying; I said that questioning a decision over which you have no authority is an annoyance (as you can see from the above quotes). I actually enjoy many of the posts on this thread.

[HayesA]

Since you didn't like KLOBBER's response, I'll go ahead and post one for you.

We not only have the usual suspects, but moderators trying to stifle what little free speech and free expression we have left.

You're posting on private forums on a privately owned website based out of Canada...you don't have free speech. Get over it.

Yes. But don't you think everyone is entitled to some shred of it?

[mpjh]

The only rights you have on this site are those created by contract law, which in this care doesn't give you much.

[stahrgazer]

OK, do what all dissatisfied customers have a right to do. Leave.

I did, taking with me some maps ideas I was working on; some tourney ideas I'd developed but hadn't yet announced because I already had one running; whatever my meagre talents could contribute to the various newsletters. I'd say I took a good attitude with me but this place killed it which is why I left.

I only peeked back in because a buddy told me I might want to look in at this thread; he seemed to think I'd think that elimination of 'flame wars' would resolve my difficulty with CC. Nope; I don't think I ever visited flame wars, but that didn't stop me from seeing constant flaming. Eliminating flame wars didn't take care of flaming and general nastiness, either...went into live chat just this week and what happened? Someone got nasty within minutes, a mod didn't stop it, and I felt as unwelcome as when I chose to leave.

Like I said in my first post in this thread, it's not "Flame Wars" that caused the problem; it was the flames in other places on CC, tolerated by moderators, that was (and continues to be) the problem.

[mpjh]

Well, I am sure you found a totally flame free site somewhere -- have fun.

[KLOBBER]

Yes. But don't you think everyone is entitled to some shred of [free speech?]

The governments of many countries do provide the right to LIMITED free speech for their citizens. However, Conquer Club is under no legal or moral obligation to provide any amount of free speech to anyone, not even to its paying members.

Try Amnesty International -- they are more likely to be moved to compassion for your plight, although I suspect that they may have more serious problems on their hands than helping a handful of children on a privately-owned internet gaming site regain the ability to swear at each other.

[stahrgazer]

Try Amnesty International -- they are more likely to be moved to compassion for your plight, although I suspect that they may have more serious problems on their hands than helping a handful of children on a privately-owned internet gaming site regain the ability to swear at each other.

Ability to harass and swear at each other is alive and well on CC; just do it in gamechat or get friendly with mods in social and you'll have no problems.

[GENERAL STONEHAM]

Since you didn't like KLOBBER's response, I'll go ahead and post one for you.

We not only have the usual suspects, but moderators trying to stifle what little free speech and free expression we have left.

You're posting on private forums on a privately owned website based out of Canada...you don't have free speech. Get over it.

So Fuzzy...can I call you Fuzzy? You banned me for what? FLAMING right? Hmmm, so if others who just happen to "troll" the threads of those who want to have a "civil discussion" on the merits of Flame Wars, that's ok? To be a ANTI-FLAMING-FLAMER who tows the line of "correct thinking," that's ok...right?

Do I risk a banning, just for having a "civil discussion" on those who FLAME from the ANTI-FLAMING side? Is there more to just free speech, but also fairness?

Tell me do other Canadian websites boast that they're not for free speech and fairness?

We all have seen what happens in the last couple of weeks, first the cyber-thugs come out to FLAME those who want "civil discussion" on the merits of Flame Wars and then the Moderators come out and "LOCK UP THREADS" and issue out "WARNINGS" and "BANS."

Free speech and fairness is that too much to ask?