London Underground

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:50 pm

comprehende...but now that ur back, can u finish??

(jk

)

Suntzu · Post by **Suntzu** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:14 pm

i like it try to simplify it .make the lines thicker.i would play it

Genghis Khant · Post by **Genghis Khant** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:41 pm

mornington crescent, yay!

i can't wait to play on this map.

bring it on.

Bad Speler · Post by **Bad Speler** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:42 pm

I think the user creating this map had gone inactive...the last game they played is in the 40000s

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:16 pm

aw...

Ka-Zethica · Post by **Ka-Zethica** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:35 pm

Looks good to me!

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:16 pm

i just searched 4 fluffy on the scoreboard and he wasnt even listed-
does ne1 know if hes still round? i hate to c this beautiful map go to waste.

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:40 pm

The Harry Beck "schematic" london underground map, which was used to create this CC map, is copyrighted material and cannot be re-used without a licensing agreement... I don't know if that's what held up the map's final production, but it would have become an issue at some point.

zyxaz · Post by **zyxaz** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:58 am

i love the undergorund, gook luck!!

wanna be the first one to play on it!

Lt.Mustard · Post by **Lt.Mustard** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:30 pm

is this ever gonna get quenched? it says final forge and nobodys said anything but its been a long time

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:34 pm

I really like the visual style of this map. In keeping with the iconic London Underground map and looks interstingly playable. Are there problems with the small version? Would love to play this in the near future.

DeCaptain · Post by **DeCaptain** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:10 pm

this map looks like a good idea. whats holding it up though?

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:15 pm

The lack of a cartographer and perhaps copyright issues.

--Andy

DeCaptain · Post by **DeCaptain** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:24 pm

ok thanks andy

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:40 pm

I did some research into the Harry Beck map. I believe that our map shown is sufficiently different from the official schematic, only utilizing design elements that are either common to hundreds of rail systems around the world (the style of the depiction of the railways), or that are already public domain, such as the "roundel" emblem.

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:40 pm

btownmeggy wrote:I did some research into the Harry Beck map. I believe that our map shown is sufficiently different from the official schematic, only utilizing design elements that are either common to hundreds of rail systems around the world (the style of the depiction of the railways), or that are already public domain, such as the "roundel" emblem.

this from Transport for London's website:

Mind the ©opyright

The Underground map and logo, New Johnston font and the poster and photographic collections are protected by copyright and the Roundel is also a registered trademark. A licence needs to be obtained from the Commercial Department to reproduce them.

Please note: any unauthorized use of TfL's copyright and trademarks is an infringement of TfL's Intellectual Property and may lead to legal action and other remedies permitted under the Trade Marks Act 1994 and the Copyright Design and Patents Act 1988.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:07 am

Well...

So be it.

Lt.Mustard · Post by **Lt.Mustard** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:32 am

that makes me sad... i liked the look of this map

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:58 am

Petition the Commercial Department?

luckiekevin · Post by **luckiekevin** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:31 am

i love this map

max is gr8 · Post by **max is gr8** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:09 pm

I'll finish this off if anyone wants how can it run into copyright problems it's property of government and only the original map is copyrighted the names of stations i.e. places are impossible to copyright

matjam · Post by **matjam** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:04 am

Here is the official word from Transport for London.

Dear Matt

Thank you for your e-mail.

I am very glad you checked with us before submitting the design. We have
a number of issues with your design, which I detail below:

1. The map is an exact copy of our Tube map and therefore is an
infringement, and as you thought requires our permission, which in this
case we are unable to give.

2. Use of the Underground logo. The red circle and blue bar is the trade
mark and corporate mark of Transport for London, and we do not allow
additions or adaptations to be to it.

3. The words GOING UNDERGROUND is also a trade mark of Transport for
London and is currently used on a children's boardgame and we would not
wish this being used on another game.

Therefore, we have to decline your request for using both the Tube map
and Underground trade mark.

Kind regards

David Ellis
Head of Intellectual Property Development
Transport for London
Windsor House
42-50 Victoria Street
London
SW1H 0TL
Direct: 020 7126 3086

matjam · Post by **matjam** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:06 am

Kinda sucks this would have been a great map!!!

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:46 pm

sad, but not surprising.

I still really like the potential of tis type of gameplay - trying to nab a line rather than a region, where the lines cross each other and share territories.

There IS a possible solution: base the map on an underground map that is already in the public domain, namely, something pre-1923. It won't be the Harry Beck schematic that we know and love, and you'll have to come up with original graphics, but it's the same gameplay. Here's a 1911 version:

max is gr8 · Post by **max is gr8** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:43 pm

Well I suppose its copyrights expired

London Underground

map

underground copyright??