Unofficial Clan Ladder - Updated May 17th-2009

[jackin_u_up]

Sky Force was victorious over The Freemium Forces. Final score was 18 - 6.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=71695

[Scott-Land]

Thanks for the info, I'm well aware of the current challenges and generally put place holders in my ladder spreadsheet.

As for posting the scores, I'm still debating on doing that, just need to clear up some issues first around inactive clans (penalty?, what's inactive mean in time), default rules (generally need standard match set, or will need a creative solution), and the possible elimination of non-CLA clans (most are CLA).

Are you any closer to providing a usable system to organize everything? It all seems very vague- you've changed the equation several times now. The current standings on page 1 doesn't seem very accurate outside of you having Thota as #1.

[jpcloet]

The equation has not changed at all. Same ELO calculation.

There was a suggestion to lower the starting value from 1000 to 100 which would mean THOTA is a larger % better than the lowest clan which makes the gap larger.

I also did get a very useful suggestion around defaulting clans which I need to update the spreadsheet to incorporate that.

I see a few final challenges I need to add to the ladder, and a few that are almost complete. I'll try and update the ladder soon.

[hiddendragon]

Imperial Britain defeats Black Sheep. Score ATM is 20-16 with 2 games left to play.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=74161&p=1845743#p1845743

[Scott-Land]

The equation has not changed at all. Same ELO calculation.

There was a suggestion to lower the starting value from 1000 to 100 which would mean THOTA is a larger % better than the lowest clan which makes the gap larger.

I also did get a very useful suggestion around defaulting clans which I need to update the spreadsheet to incorporate that.

I see a few final challenges I need to add to the ladder, and a few that are almost complete. I'll try and update the ladder soon.

Briefly looking at the standings, it appears 'the ladder' rewards clans for participating in challenges-- not necessarily winning them.

[jpcloet]

It only rewards you if you do better than expected. Currently the clans have to win due to the relative closeness of the points.

[Ryall55]

Imperial Britain draw against Order of Odin - 20/20

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=76159&p=1861495#p1861495

[reptile]

Ok finally our 40 game challenge with G1 has finished

LoW win 28-12

[jpcloet]

I got some updating to do, looks like the CLA vote is a landslide on all recommendations.

[reptile]

here is the thread: viewtopic.php?f=274&t=70077

[Ryall55]

Imperial Britain defeat Black Sheep Squadron - 20-18

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=74161&p=1780659#p1780659

[owenshooter]

I got some updating to do, looks like the CLA vote is a landslide on all recommendations.

sheep do tend to follow...-0

[Bruceswar]

Final

Immortal Assassins 25 Regulators 15

[reptile]

does this still get updated? the last update was jan 10th?

[jpcloet]

I'm working on the update, was on vacation last week, plus trying to incorporate the voting changes. Will be updating soon hopefully, although I will have to check in on the league.

[reptile]

I'm working on the update, was on vacation last week, plus trying to incorporate the voting changes. Will be updating soon hopefully, although I will have to check in on the league.

hooray

[andre the giant]

I hate to report...

VDLL 26 Warlords of the Wort 14 Final score.

[jpcloet]

Updated for a number of challenges, feel free to post comments in this thread. Suggestions to the ladder are appreciated as we would like to improve both the ladder and the challenge system.

Also updated for the voted changes being:

1. Starting points of 100 per clan instead of 1000
2. Penalty for defaulting games, score calculated for defaulting clan to include the default games as losses.
3. Points to be displayed on ladder
4. Clan League 20 sets to be added to ladder (none are complete, most second 10 sets will not occur in the schedule until May 2009 range)

[reptile]

Updated for a number of challenges, feel free to post comments in this thread. Suggestions to the ladder are appreciated as we would like to improve both the ladder and the challenge system.

Also updated for the voted changes being:

1. Starting points of 100 per clan instead of 1000
2. Penalty for defaulting games, score calculated for defaulting clan to include the default games as losses.
3. Points to be displayed on ladder
4. Clan League 20 sets to be added to ladder (none are complete, most second 10 sets will not occur in the schedule until May 2009 range)

awesome job jp

[ClockworK]

Sick

++The Legion++ is moving up!

[Blitzaholic]

Updated for a number of challenges, feel free to post comments in this thread. Suggestions to the ladder are appreciated as we would like to improve both the ladder and the challenge system.

Also updated for the voted changes being:

1. Starting points of 100 per clan instead of 1000
2. Penalty for defaulting games, score calculated for defaulting clan to include the default games as losses.
3. Points to be displayed on ladder
4. Clan League 20 sets to be added to ladder (none are complete, most second 10 sets will not occur in the schedule until May 2009 range)

nice job jp

[jpcloet]

Thanks, for those not in the CLA, the next consideration is.....

looking into Strength of Schedule calculations.......

[e_i_pi]

E(A) = 1/(1+10^((1500-750)/400)) = 0.99
E(B) = 1/(1+10^((750-1500)/400)) = 0.01

I think you mean:

E(A) = 1/(1+10^((750-1500)/400)) = 0.99
E(B) = 1/(1+10^((1500-750)/400)) = 0.01

[sailorseal]

Not dead last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jpcloet]

Not dead last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not yet anyways.