risk_killer_1 & andreas1977 [blocked]

[evilweasel8]

I would like to report in what i believe is a very obvious set up in 8 man ass.(speed) games, I was in the two games that i will be talking about, my accusation is that risk_killer_1 was working in tandem with andreas1977, risk_killer_1 has a habit of not going after his own target and what i mean is in game 441924 he took out the armies andreas1977 could not reach when there was a very clear alternate path risk_killer_1 could have taken rather the latter, if possible could the investigator confirm that risk's target was in the path that he chose which was threw me(green at the time) further more in game 4411925 which was immediately played after the previous game(4411924) the same two players did the very same thing, risk_killer_1 was in the west with me building his troops and all of the sudden he starts deploying in aussie constantly hitting a non-target(silver) , once again hitting what andreas1977 could not reach--The other players at the games in question agree that something is not right, I hope i not wrong but what would prove me right is a hunter confirming riskkiller target postions and there inbox unless they used msn/yahoo, i have been told even if deleted inbox, you hunters have the talent to retrieve those deletions, I have had reservations about these two players in the past but with nothing to go on, i believe i am correct on this and got something to go on this time....













Comments:

[king sam]

Way too hard to follow, and this is coming from me who usually helps clean up posts like this and puts them in the proper format.

Quote my text and copy and fill in the games and users you want looked at in the format its supposed to be in.

It helps the hunters and the rest of the community try to piece together the things that have raised your eyebrows.

So in a few words, help yourself get a user looked at by helping the hunters easily look at them.


Copy and edit this text:

Accused:

xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>



Game number(s):

[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]



Comments:

[evilweasel8]

[quote="king sam"]Way too hard to follow, and this is coming from me who usually helps clean up posts like this and puts them in the proper format.

Quote my text and copy and fill in the games and users you want looked at in the format its supposed to be in.

It helps the hunters and the rest of the community try to piece together the things that have raised your eyebrows.

So in a few words, help yourself get a user looked at by helping the hunters easily look at them.


Copy and edit this text:

Accused:

risk_killer_1
andreas1977


The accused are suspected of:


Conducting Secret Diplomacy





Game number(s):

[game]4411924
[game]4411925




Comments:during these 2 games9(speed 8man ass.) risk_killer_1 was hitting andreas1977's target for him were andreas1977 could not reach, in both cases andreas1977 benefited with wins, in game 4411925 is the most obvious, you the hunter will see what i mean when you review the games or i have explained in previous version of this post

[king sam]

Accused:
risk_killer_1
andreas1977

The accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):
Game 4411924
Game 4411925


Comments:
during these 2 games9(speed 8man ass.) risk_killer_1 was hitting andreas1977's target for him were andreas1977 could not reach, in both cases andreas1977 benefited with wins, in game 4411925 is the most obvious, you the hunter will see what i mean when you review the games or i have explained in previous version of this post

There you go, links to players and games added.

[king achilles]

andreas1977 and Risk_Killer_1 have been blocked.

[delboy01]

Quick question. Why no point reset?

A block from playing is no discouragement from just finding someone else to do it with.

Those that cheat seem intent on doing it regardless. The driving force for a cheat is more points and therefore a higher rank. So why leave them with their ill gotten gains? If they have been caught this time then you can bet your house they are doing it with others as well.

This has been raised before and I thought that a point reset was now automatic. If not then it should be. Or even the thrase 'point reset pending appeal'. So that at least we know.

And I'm not just picking on these two. It should be mandatory.

[evilweasel8]

i would like to appeal the fact that risk_killer_1 and andreas1977 get to keep there points, this is only the first time i took the time to time to report anything, i am the one who lost points with 7 other players times 2(both games)and it's not really a deterrent not to cheat when you simpily get blocked there are too many ways around that, thru 3rd party or another profile or as stated above link up with other players into that sort of thing, it is not very soothing to realize all my efforts in reviling these two are being treated so lightly, i personally think it also sends the wrong message as well, so i must plead that those 2 players be reset to 1000 or at the very least return the points that all other 7 players lost and take them away from the 2 cheats, furthermore can i assume that since there is a block on them that i was correct and they were in fact in a secret dip.? I the honest paying member should not have to exept 2 cheats merely get blocked and to top it off they get to keep ther points that they ripped off to begin with, that's not right

[Risk_Killer_1]

OKAY THIS IS MAJOR CRAP ALL OVER ...
I promise to everyone here i never cheated...ill prove it!
1.Game 4411924 My assassin i had to kill was black and was going after him...and i lost alot of mean on that attack so i couldnt go thru with it and game ended!
2.Game 4411925 my assassin was blue i was just trying to take him out of more russia so i can maybe later get to uk...Im not just going to sit there and watch evryone build up
3.Y would i want andreas to win when he is taken pts. from me when in all my other games i lose n i get made cuz i hate losing pts.
4.i have played 4829 games im a good user of CC y would i want to cheat
5.i have just lost over 300 pts. and trying to get it bak so losing pts. isnt helping
6.i have never sent him a pm or aim/msn ever in my life
7.and last out of all 4829 games i have only played andreas in 8 games

if u can please check all those it would be great
it all shows y i wouldnt cheat!!!
THANKS

~RK

[delboy01]

OKAY THIS IS MAJOR CRAP ALL OVER ...
I promise to everyone here i never cheated...ill prove it!
1.Game 4411924 My assassin i had to kill was black and was going after him...and i lost alot of mean on that attack so i couldnt go thru with it and game ended!
2.Game 4411925 my assassin was blue i was just trying to take him out of more russia so i can maybe later get to uk...Im not just going to sit there and watch evryone build up
3.Y would i want andreas to win when he is taken pts. from me when in all my other games i lose n i get made cuz i hate losing pts.
4.i have played 4829 games im a good user of CC y would i want to cheat
5.i have just lost over 300 pts. and trying to get it bak so losing pts. isnt helping
6.i have never sent him a pm or aim/msn ever in my life
7.and last out of all 4829 games i have only played andreas in 8 games

if u can please check all those it would be great
it all shows y i wouldnt cheat!!!
THANKS

~RK

Do you want me to just copy the bits where you say you don't cheat to the other thread........where you are accused of sending a pm suggesting a secret alliance..........

From Ratings.

mbohn2 3.7
2009-02-20 22:32:04 [find games] Tags: Rude, Secret Diplomacy, Cheap Tactics

RaLLy77 4.7
2009-02-15 03:41:50 [find games] Tags: Vindictive, Sore Loser, Secret Diplomacy, Cheap Tactics

Statecraft 3.8
2009-02-12 10:06:58 [find games] Tags: Rude, Paranoid, Secret Diplomacy, Cheap Tactics

[Risk_Killer_1]

sure that would be great

[evilweasel8]

OKAY THIS IS MAJOR CRAP ALL OVER ...
I promise to everyone here i never cheated...ill prove it!
1.Game 4411924 My assassin i had to kill was black and was going after him...and i lost alot of mean on that attack so i couldnt go thru with it and game ended!
2.Game 4411925 my assassin was blue i was just trying to take him out of more russia so i can maybe later get to uk...Im not just going to sit there and watch evryone build up
3.Y would i want andreas to win when he is taken pts. from me when in all my other games i lose n i get made cuz i hate losing pts.
4.i have played 4829 games im a good user of CC y would i want to cheat
5.i have just lost over 300 pts. and trying to get it bak so losing pts. isnt helping
6.i have never sent him a pm or aim/msn ever in my life
7.and last out of all 4829 games i have only played andreas in 8 games

if u can please check all those it would be great
it all shows y i wouldnt cheat!!!
THANKS

~RK

Do you want me to just copy the bits where you say you don't cheat to the other thread........where you are accused of sending a pm suggesting a secret alliance..........

From Ratings.

mbohn2 3.7
2009-02-20 22:32:04 [find games] Tags: Rude, Secret Diplomacy, Cheap Tactics

RaLLy77 4.7
2009-02-15 03:41:50 [find games] Tags: Vindictive, Sore Loser, Secret Diplomacy, Cheap Tactics

Statecraft 3.8
2009-02-12 10:06:58 [find games] Tags: Rude, Paranoid, Secret Diplomacy, Cheap Tactics

well apperently the block was done for a reason, if reporting some one only results in a warning why bother does a bank robber get to keep the loot, i think not so why dont we get our cheated points back, CC you are setting a terrible example to the consequences of being caught and if this all i have to worry about i suppose i should cheat to get the points back? Just this situation will deterr myself from re-buying my membership since CC wants to protect the common cheat CC you have let us down big time, if you cant beat them i;ll join them

[king sam]

well apperently the block was done for a reason, if reporting some one only results in a warning why bother does a bank robber get to keep the loot, i think not so why dont we get our cheated points back, CC you are setting a terrible example to the consequences of being caught and if this all i have to worry about i suppose i should cheat to get the points back? Just this situation will deterr myself from re-buying my membership since CC wants to protect the common cheat CC you have let us down big time, if you cant beat them i;ll join them

Not the way to go mate, plus you lose all credibility in your claim by saying you will buck the system by joining the crowd.

The weight you once held with making it a better community for all was just lost.

[evilweasel8]

all the credibility lost over myself venting what COULD happen, i was simply saying what is to deter a guy from the same practices? so my feelings are not hurt because nothing happened with the claim anyways, at least in my opinion....so i think you should watch what you say because me venting on the lack of consequence does not canceled out what the problem is to begin with, never the less i understand your point and i watch what i say myself.

[delboy01]

I have reported numerous cheats and sometimes they get score resets. What I have noticed is that they cannot help themselves from doing it again, and again.

I have a policy of reviewing these.........people a couple of months later and nearly always find something else. A number have since lost premium or have received perma bans.

It's no fun losing points to these.......people. I had to play out a 3 player and lose the points AFTER they had been banned!!!!

Just remember it is just a game and some will always cheat. It's a fact of life i'm afraid.

I joined xigames as we even have a policy of no alliances. And it's so much better knowing that noobies mate or alterego will not be joining the game as well.