Teachmehowtoplay, Prisoner Of War, Billy Clity [busted]

by **owenator** on Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:39 pm

Teachmehowtoplay with Prisoner Of War

Accused:

Teachmehowtoplay
Prisoner Of War
Billy Clity

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 4285788

Game log: 2009-02-18 17:20:32 - Prisoner Of War gets bonus of 5 troops added to ?
2009-02-18 17:20:32 - Prisoner Of War receives 3 troops for 1 regions
2009-02-18 17:20:41 - Prisoner Of War deployed 3 troops on ?
2009-02-18 17:21:10 - Prisoner Of War assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2009-02-18 17:21:32 - Prisoner Of War gets spoils

Game 4285787
Game log: 2009-02-18 17:24:38 - Teachmehowtoplay gets bonus of 5 troops added to ?
2009-02-18 17:24:38 - Teachmehowtoplay receives 3 troops for 1 regions
2009-02-18 17:24:42 - Teachmehowtoplay deployed 3 troops on ?
2009-02-18 17:24:48 - Teachmehowtoplay assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2009-02-18 17:25:04 - Teachmehowtoplay assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2009-02-18 17:25:14 - Teachmehowtoplay assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2009-02-18 17:25:22 - Teachmehowtoplay gets spoils

Comments: Game 4250281, Game 3865926, shows the two playing together. Prisoner of War joined on Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:51 am. Teachmehowtoplay joined on Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:58 am. Teachmehowtoplay games: 75 completed, 59 (79%) won and Prisoner of War: 110 completed, 75 (68%) won. Billy Clity joined on Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:44 am. Prisoner of War rating left: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ner+Of+War. Teachmehowtoplay: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... ehowtoplay. All have played "robertvandyke" numerous times in order to gain easy points.

by **gcwca_4_life** on Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:05 am

They could possible be multis, but there is also the possibility that they are friends and play games together. The one thing that would make a person think they are multis is that two of them joined on the exact same day, one just a few hours after the other. This would be hard to actually find out. I got lost looking at their games. 8-[

by **DarthBlood** on Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:10 pm

how do your 2 game logs prove they are multis? i don't see it...

by **owenator** on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:00 pm

DarthBlood wrote:how do your 2 game logs prove they are multis? i don't see it...

Takes his turn as a different player once he finished ending his turn on the other one, within minutes. And again, when you take a look at his/her rating for "robertvandyke", EXACT ratings left.

by **DarthBlood** on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:07 pm

couldn't that just be coincidence?
or maybe they're all just friends?
ah well, we'll find out if they're multis soon enough

by **owenator** on Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:32 pm

DarthBlood wrote:couldn't that just be coincidence?
or maybe they're all just friends?
ah well, we'll find out if they're multis soon enough

mmm....perhaps, never thought about that. But, then again when you think about win percentages in such a short time. AND the fact that as I have mentioned, Feudal 6 player sequential is a favorite of mine. It's not easy for one to magically know - get your notepads out, that by acquiring 4 territories and bombard a neutral territory for an easy card, that you simply wait it out until there are 3 players left. And it's just a matter of timing from there. Again - not common knowledge on your first sequential game.

by **king sam** on Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:50 pm

I dug & dug & dug trying to find evidence to make this claim false, just cause its easier to prove false rather then guilty.

And the lack of concrete material to say that these 2 aren't one in the same says a lot in itself.

They both have very similar preferences on board and map settings. Which led me to believe somewhere in the many games that they have played I could find one where the times that they took their turns overlapped.

However out of the 20 plus I searched (which included many freestyle games, giving this probability the additional chance) the closest I found to the times overlapping was this:

Game 4279573

Game Log wrote:2009-02-19 04:26:26 - Prisoner Of War gets spoils

Game 4250743

Game Log wrote:2009-02-19 04:47:11 - Teachmehowtoplaygets bonus of 3 troops added to ?

I'm not stating that these guys are multi's, but it is very peculiar that when both of the accused had games going on at the same time (freestyle included) the times that they took their turns were meticulously never within an hour of each other besides the above referenced. I did a search on about 20, and am nowhere near perfect but came to the conclusion that this being odd from that.

Hope this sheds light on owens right to ask this to be a check, cause I believe it warrant's it as well.

Best of luck,
King Sam

by **owenator** on Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:23 am

king sam wrote:I dug & dug & dug trying to find evidence to make this claim false, just cause its easier to prove false rather then guilty.

And the lack of concrete material to say that these 2 aren't one in the same says a lot in itself.

They both have very similar preferences on board and map settings. Which led me to believe somewhere in the many games that they have played I could find one where the times that they took their turns overlapped.

However out of the 20 plus I searched (which included many freestyle games, giving this probability the additional chance) the closest I found to the times overlapping was this:

Game 4279573
Game Log wrote:2009-02-19 04:26:26 - Prisoner Of War gets spoils

Game 4250743
Game Log wrote:2009-02-19 04:47:11 - Teachmehowtoplaygets bonus of 3 troops added to ?

I'm not stating that these guys are multi's, but it is very peculiar that when both of the accused had games going on at the same time (freestyle included) the times that they took their turns were meticulously never within an hour of each other besides the above referenced. I did a search on about 20, and am nowhere near perfect but came to the conclusion that this being odd from that.

Hope this sheds light on owens right to ask this to be a check, cause I believe it warrant's it as well.

Best of luck,
King Sam

Thanks. I could care less about losing points in a fair game. But, to have people who have the experience that they have is dishonourable. And, if anything it also wouldn't be fair to the other players who join my games that are "regulars".

by **king achilles** on Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:52 am

These accounts are busted.

by **owenator** on Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:43 pm

king achilles wrote:These accounts are busted.

Thanks king.

by **zapusca007** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:52 am

robertvandyke Teachmehowtoplay

Just check games between these two players. i would like to invite the first to play with me also. maybe my rank would be a little higher....