dickied [Cleared]

[stahrgazer]

haha

A BSS playing against his teammates, and not listening to game chat? Ignoring all probable strategy? Handing the game to the other team?

Surely, you must be mistaken.

dickied is most assuredly NOT a Black Sheep Squadron member; and is also most assuredly NOT a BSS multi

[hiddendragon]

haha

A BSS playing against his teammates, and not listening to game chat? Ignoring all probable strategy? Handing the game to the other team?

Surely, you must be mistaken.

If a BSS member is caught throwing a game or doing anything else illegit I'll dump him/her.
We compete against one another as often as we compete against any other players and just as furiously.

[hiddendragon]

Everyone needs to chill out.


psteijn has every right to accuse CPTMO, as the games appear at least a little suspicious. (As in we can all agree dick is a retard) Stop flaming psteijn ffs, CPTMO is clearly not a cheater, so a mod will clear him soon enough. psteijn hasn't done anything wrong, and is at the very least attempting to enforce CC justice. Please stop posting more 'CPTMO is not a cheater testimonies,' those don't prove anything, and we get it.

I agree. What I enjoy about mods investigating my mates is it proves they are legit

[DarthBlood]

You guys are kidding right. I do not employ multis. I don't even know who dickied is. Careful what you say that you KNOW. As you obviously KNOW nothing. I would say that you need to be careful who you join team games with if you don't like the way your own partners play.

CPTMO

there's also the fact that cptmo is from us, while dicked is from canada...looking at their country usually solves the problem.

[Woodruff]

i think you need to step back and think before you start accusing someone. especially a high ranked player who's reputation you can ruin just by a simple accusation.

I think it's pretty clear simply from this thread that your statement here doesn't ring true at all. I mean, really...until someone is BUSTED, does anyone really look at someone else's reputation? I certainly don't.

[saywhat]

On the subject of CPTMO cheating, put my vote on the "that is the most absurd thing I have ever heard" side....

[psteijn]

stahrgazer: Notice that sirsebstar commented about dickied [not CPTMO] and calkid's post was inane; the rest of the posters (read: the ones supporting CPTMO) before my first response were all BSS. [edit: now there are a lot of CPTMO supporters who are not BSS]

I will point you to the Forum Guidelines: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7785, in specific the part about "Flames are posts or parts of posts which, directly or indirectly, insult, belittle, bully, name-call, or otherwise attack another user." in reference to the remaining part of your response.

[owenshooter]

stahrgazer: Notice that sirsebstar commented about dickied [not CPTMO] and calkid's post was inane; the rest of the posters (read: the ones supporting CPTMO) were all BSS.

I will point you to the Forum Guidelines: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7785, in specific the part about "Flames are posts or parts of posts which, directly or indirectly, insult, belittle, bully, name-call, or otherwise attack another user." in reference to the remaining part of your response.

sorry, i'm not a member of the BSS... i'm a founding member of the BpB, and i still think your allegations are absurd. and if you truly think you are being treated harshly or that you are being flamed, you really have no idea how well behaved everyone is being and how civil this thread is,
despite your outlandish accusations. your post total is now up to 5, so i doubt you are a forum
regular. however, you are being treated fairly within this thread, and nobody is flaming you. truly
you are not being attacked, CPTMO is being defended. that is what happens in C&A when you call someone a cheat, that is well known and respected within the community. you seem to think this is
only about dickie, but you accused 2 players:

Accused:
dickied
CPTMO

the people in this thread are not all BSS members, i think you can clearly see that from the sigs,
especially mine...-0

p.s.-you ran into a bad player that is a horrible teammate, it happens. it does not make CPTMO a cheat...
p.p.s.-when he is cleared, i truly hope you apologize for your outlandish accusations...
p.p.p.s.-why all the edits of late? we all have seen what you have been writing... *snicker*.... you can't change the parameters of your debate, because cptmo has defenders...

[stahrgazer]

stahrgazer: Notice that sirsebstar commented about dickied [not CPTMO] and calkid's post was inane; the rest of the posters (read: the ones supporting CPTMO) before my first response were all BSS. [edit: now there are a lot of CPTMO supporters who are not BSS]

I will point you to the Forum Guidelines: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7785, in specific the part about "Flames are posts or parts of posts which, directly or indirectly, insult, belittle, bully, name-call, or otherwise attack another user." in reference to the remaining part of your response.

I didn't insult you: I stated accurately that you obviously did not understand what a Foe List is; the proof is in this very thread, and it's far more proof than you provided about the honorable CPTMO when you belittled and insulted him by calling him a cheat.

I did not bully; I didn't bitch-slap you, though I suggested your momma might. I did say your thread made me want to foelist you (but obviously that went over your head because you didn't know what the foe list was for, alas). I didn't name-call you - again, I simply stated the truth, you show your ignorance about CC - see the definition of ignorance before you suggest I namecall by using the word - by not knowing what the foelist was for. I made no attack. I gave logical response with reasonable suggestions.

Your implication that the BSS might lie for a teammate is an indirect belittling insult: hence, you attacked. After that, the closest I came to attack was to suggest you shut your mouth or have your momma do it for you, but the advice still stands as each time you open your mouth you're digging yourself in deeper.

Let's look at your later post for proof. You call other posts "inane" because you disagree with what they wrote: that is a a direct insult and flame. Like I said, the advice that you shut your mouth or have someone do it for you, stands. It would be an attack if I said I'd do it for you, but as I haven't said that, I haven't attacked you.

I did not call you a stupid puss-twit who doesn't know his arse from shinola or any other fancy metaphorical terms that someone who loves flame wars might come up with. Instead, I called you (accurately) ignorant about foelist. That's a truth, not an insult or flame. Like I said, check the dictionary. I'm sure you can (see, it would be an insult if I said I doubted you could, but as I did not say that, I'm not flaming you.)

I hope this edification meets a receptive mind.

[owenator]

Nice work "Sherlock". So "dickie" plays 12 games and joins in 2 in which CPTMO is in and you call him a multi? By the way, how many points did you lose in that one game? Oh yes...a whopping 12 points. 12 points?!! You're joking, right? You're accusing him of being a multi for 12 points? I'll GIVE you 12 points if you want. Ridiculous. I am in the same clan as CPTMO but I don't personally know him, but the games that I've played in, there was no reason for suspicion. Your accusations are false, unjustified, and irrational. Grow up, and withdraw your charges, because you look extremely silly for arguing about trivial points. Remember, it's only a game.

[stahrgazer]

Hey, has anyone seen the number of games pjsteijn has played with The Kaptan?

It's curious that they'd play that amount of games together... anyone wonder if they could be multies?

(apologies to Kaptan for using his name to make the point)

[owenshooter]

Nice work "Sherlock". So "dickie" plays 12 games and joins in 2 in which CPTMO is in and you call him a multi? By the way, how many points did you lose in that one game? Oh yes...a whopping 12 points. 12 points?!! You're joking, right? You're accusing him of being a multi for 12 points? I'll GIVE you 12 points if you want. Ridiculous. I am in the same clan as CPTMO but I don't personally know him, but the games that I've played in, there was no reason for suspicion. Your accusations are false, unjustified, and irrational. Grow up, and withdraw your charges, because you look extremely silly for arguing about trivial points. Remember, it's only a game.

i wholeheartedly agree with my multi... and again, when this thing is said and done, i hope cptmo is offered an apology. this whole thing seems like a knee jerk reaction to a loss caused in part by something cptmo had absolutely nothing to do with and the OP not fully understanding what he was/is doing/accusing cptmo of taking part in...-0

[owenshooter]

Hey, has anyone seen the number of games pjsteijn has played with The_Kaptan?
It's curious that they'd play that amount of games together... anyone wonder if they could be multies?
(apologies to Kaptan for using his name to make the point)

yes, the OP and The_Kaptan have played in 18 games against each other... one is premium, one is freemium... the OP has won 1/3rd of those games... far more suspicious than the evidence offered against CPTMO.... i hope the hunters look into this...-0

p.s.-sorry the_kaptan, just comparing and contrasting... and you always seem to join the other team (when it is a team game)... basically using a tactic the OP has accused someone else of using... ahem...

[psteijn]

Go ahead and report us, please. That is what this forum is for -- I have nothing to hide and I will not be bullied.

[TheBro]

Everyone needs to chill out.


psteijn has every right to accuse CPTMO, as the games appear at least a little suspicious. (As in we can all agree dick is a retard) Stop flaming psteijn ffs, CPTMO is clearly not a cheater, so a mod will clear him soon enough. psteijn hasn't done anything wrong, and is at the very least attempting to enforce CC justice. Please stop posting more 'CPTMO is not a cheater testimonies,' those don't prove anything, and we get it.

Actually, too many false accusations is also against CC rules. As indicated, my initial response was thorough, and didn't flame. That response was met with an implication that I, as a Black Sheep member, might lie in defense of another clanmember.. to me, that's a bit of a flame and TOTALLY uncalled for, TOTALLY indefensible.

Yes, too many false accusations. He has made 1. I did not imply that CMPTO is a cheater, and did not imply that anybody is a liar. I said that the testimonies are meaningless. They are. This is not a jury, the multi-hunter is going to clear him if he's innocent, and God forbid bust him if he is actually guilty. To quote me and say my words were a 'flame and TOTALLY uncalled for, TOTALLY indefensible' is absurd! Your leader agreed with me!

But seriously, I'm sure CMPTO and psteijn would both appreciate the mods clearing him right about now.

[owenshooter]

Go ahead and report us, please. That is what this forum is for -- I have nothing to hide and I will not be bullied.

ahhh, you mean like the PM you sent me threatening to get me in trouble for posting that i hope you apologized publicly after CPTMO was cleared? that type of bullying or do you have another sort of bullying in mind? anyway, i saw King online last night going through some threads handing out justice, but he stopped 2 shy of this thread at the time... sooo, sometime soon, i would imagine... and again, bad play isn't against the rules, and that is all dickied seems guilty of, if he is guilty of anything...-0

[stahrgazer]

Yes, too many false accusations. He has made 1. I did not imply that CMPTO is a cheater, and did not imply that anybody is a liar. I said that the testimonies are meaningless. They are. This is not a jury, the multi-hunter is going to clear him if he's innocent, and God forbid bust him if he is actually guilty. To quote me and say my words were a 'flame and TOTALLY uncalled for, TOTALLY indefensible' is absurd! Your leader agreed with me!

But seriously, I'm sure CMPTO and psteijn would both appreciate the mods clearing him right about now.

I beg your pardon, apparently I was unclear. I was responding to you, yes, but I was talking ABOUT pjsteijn's words were a flame and TOTALLY uncalled for.. it was stein who implied Black Sheep such as myself, would lie to protect an errant member, and THOSE words were totally uncalled for and totally indefensible.

[stahrgazer]

Go ahead and report us, please. That is what this forum is for -- I have nothing to hide and I will not be bullied.

ahhh, you mean like the PM you sent me threatening to get me in trouble for posting that i hope you apologized publicly after CPTMO was cleared? that type of bullying or do you have another sort of bullying in mind? anyway, i saw King online last night going through some threads handing out justice, but he stopped 2 shy of this thread at the time... sooo, sometime soon, i would imagine... and again, bad play isn't against the rules, and that is all dickied seems guilty of, if he is guilty of anything...-0

You know, owenshooter, that form of pm's like you're receiving from pj could be considered forum harassment, which can result in forum vacations... maybe you should report those unwanted bullying pm's pjsteijn is sending you, to the forum moderators.

[owenshooter]

You know, owenshooter, that form of pm's like you're receiving from pj could be considered forum harassment, which can result in forum vacations... maybe you should report those unwanted bullying pm's pjsteijn is sending you, to the forum moderators.

if i can handle the recent flurry of death threats and racist banter i have been receiving via PM and on my wall, i truly doubt that PJ is going to offend me. besides, i'm too busy looking into his 18 games with a freemium in which he has won 1/3rd of them (many of which the freemium is on the other team)... and to defend PJ, PJ was just warning me to not post that i believe he should publicly apologize to CPTMO when he is cleared. so, as long as i don't post that he should apologize to CPTMO when he is cleared, he won't submit a C&A form to get me in trouble for whatever offense he lined out. so, pretty much, to stay off of mighty PJ's radar, i just have to avoid stating that i believe he should publicly apologize to CPTMO if he is cleared... anyway, this is a very interesting thread, because of the aspect of a prominent clan member being accused... nice to see a clan sticking together and other members that have tangled with them, chiming in to give their 2 cents... should be interesting when this is all done!!!-0

p.s.-i really wasn't aware that stating PJ should publicly apologize to CPTMO when he is cleared would create such a firestorm from the OP!!! (PJ, OP means Original Poster, i am not flaming you or calling you a name, fyi.)

[psteijn]

Either report me or stop this silly-ness

For everyone else's enjoyment see here: http://www.penny-arcade.com/docs/internetdickwad.jpg

[stahrgazer]

so, pretty much, to stay off of mighty PJ's radar, i just have to avoid stating that i believe he should publicly apologize to CPTMO if he is cleared...

Yes, do avoid stating that pjsteijn should publicly apologize to CPTMO "if" he's cleared, but for the record, I think you should state that pjsteijn should publicly apologize to CPTMO WHEN CPTMO is cleared.

anyway, this is a very interesting thread, because of the aspect of a prominent clan member being accused... nice to see a clan sticking together and other members that have tangled with them, chiming in to give their 2 cents... should be interesting when this is all done!!!-0

Yes, I agree, it's heartening to see members of other clans who respect a player rather than jump in to bash just because someone's not "on their team."

p.s.-i really wasn't aware that stating PJ should publicly apologize to CPTMO when he is cleared would create such a firestorm from the OP!!! (PJ, OP means Original Poster, i am not flaming you or calling you a name, fyi.)

Wow, that's so bad of you; should you have taken that thought to flame wars or something?

[owenator]

Nice work "Sherlock". So "dickie" plays 12 games and joins in 2 in which CPTMO is in and you call him a multi? By the way, how many points did you lose in that one game? Oh yes...a whopping 12 points. 12 points?!! You're joking, right? You're accusing him of being a multi for 12 points? I'll GIVE you 12 points if you want. Ridiculous. I am in the same clan as CPTMO but I don't personally know him, but the games that I've played in, there was no reason for suspicion. Your accusations are false, unjustified, and irrational. Grow up, and withdraw your charges, because you look extremely silly for arguing about trivial points. Remember, it's only a game.

i wholeheartedly agree with my multi... and again, when this thing is said and done, i hope cptmo is offered an apology. this whole thing seems like a knee jerk reaction to a loss caused in part by something cptmo had absolutely nothing to do with and the OP not fully understanding what he was/is doing/accusing cptmo of taking part in...-0

Ahh...my namesake. Whatever he says, believe that not only is it true, but it is above the law. Once he speaks, you cannot change it - because he is right. He is ALWAYS right. Even if it sounds wrong, it's only because YOU are wrong for THINKING that he was. Remember, that you have been blessed, and should be awed in the presence of such perfection and greatness. Consider yourself lucky that he should grace us with his presence. I am, and that says a lot because I too carry the name "owen". Thus, to reiterate what owenshooter has declared - an apology should be forthcoming to CPTMO. <gong>

[CPTMO]

psteijn

Please do not send me PM's requesting for my friends on cc to back off of you in this thread. You once again in your PM said to let the mods investigate dickied. You seem to forget that you have accused ME of cheating and lying not just dickied. You made your accusations with little to no proof and you did it with 1/2 thought in mind. It is obvious that you are unfamiliar with how cc works as you have limited knowledge of the game. You made your frivolous accusation which will be easily cleared when the mods get to it. You have to live with the consequences of your actions. I would make a suggestion that you think twice about reporting people who have played over 1000 games on cc with the limited proof that you provided. I don't cheat and I don't lie. I have no need to employ such tactics to win my games. I am not going to ask you to do the honorable thing by apologizing to me and my mates in this thread once it is clear. I don't expect you to have that kind of honor and common decency. Take this as a lesson learned. I have not placed you on my foe list as I hope to have the opportunity to play against you again in the future to show you that regardless of who you team up with I can still win, but there will be no further reason for you to PM me.

[dickied]

i am new to playing this i did not no there is a chat when playing teams so your the idoits to acussed some one cheating until you no the facts but some pepole are just stupid so go f--k your self

[stahrgazer]

psteijn

Please do not send me PM's requesting for my friends on cc to back off of you in this thread. You once again in your PM said to let the mods investigate dickied. You seem to forget that you have accused ME of cheating and lying not just dickied.

Well, he ALSO accused me and a couple other fairly honest Black Sheep members of lying on your behalf; I am thinking that in addition to an apology to you, CPTMO, an apology to hiddendragon (as the leader of the falsely-accused flock) is also forthcoming. Plus, he accused a couple other non-Sheep but seemingly decent and honorable folk of a variety of things... all because they didn't agree with the original accusation that tainted you. An apology to them is also warranted.

p.s. pjsteijn, apparently you speak before you read. There was nothing in my posts to warrant any of your follow-on accusations. I can only conclude that the "stahrgazer's behavior" that you're appalled at is my ability to argue creditably in a position that opposes your own.