Netherlands [Quenched]

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:24 pm

the clue?

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:09 am

ok new update hope u people like it

the blue in the legend distracted from the blue of the flag so i gave it a glow

RuS · Post by **RuS** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:15 am

Looking at the map and the bonusses, i would add an attacking route from beemster (or amsterdam) to flevoland.

But i really like this map.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:19 am

amsterdam seems logic to have a "sea" route (since it is no sea how would we name it? a lake-route?

)

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:32 am

yah i forgot 2 make the holland bonus 5

now comment on the upgrade

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:57 am

i do not like the mill where it is u could either get rid of it or u could put it where it was unless others still dont want it

yes i really like this map it is great but i sense others still see lots of improvments ask them because i still want to play it

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:59 am

ok than consider it deleted u like the rest?

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:43 pm

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:44 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:

perfect

but mayby you can delete the flag (right of the name of the map) because its already in the legend and place there the lion?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:06 pm

Guiscard wrote:Great map. Zuid-Netherland is the best font in my opinion. I would implement andy's comment about the clue looking too similar to the colour of the sea. It is a little hard to distinguish. At first glance it can be confusing.

sorry, i meant the blue - the blue in zuid-nederland

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:40 pm

minor update

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:51 pm

can you test if you can see the blue armies in zuid nederland?

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:56 pm

nope cant see them good, so should it is disturbing is the armiy shades in zuid have a different color than the rest?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:58 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:nope cant see them good, so should it is disturbing is the armiy shades in zuid have a different color than the rest?

make them all a bit brighter like your map before this one

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:01 pm

I really think zuid-nederland should be a different colour altogether, then that would eliminate this problem as well as stop it looking too much like a big continent of water. Why not try grey or dark green?

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:02 pm

because noord mid and south netherland now form the flag

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:04 pm

Guiscard wrote:I really think zuid-nederland should be a different colour altogether, then that would eliminate this problem as well as stop it looking too much like a big continent of water. Why not try grey or dark green?

if you look good you see red is up then light green (looks like white) and blue is down, like the flag, that seems perfect

but id on't know if you see the armies on "de wadden-eilanden" so make them brighter

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:09 pm

on de wadden eilanden u can see them good

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:14 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:on de wadden eilanden u can see them good

than make the ones on zuid nederland brighter (or overlay them more

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Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:25 pm

first thing tomorrow

Kayla · Post by **Kayla** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:12 pm

i kinda dislike maps i dont know much about but this one i would def. play

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:39 pm

Well lets see...commenting on the latest map...

The map is looking visually about 20 times better now. I commend you for pushing it further.
I'll start off wit the new title. The light orange on the light blue is a little harsh for the eyes perhaps, especially the symbol next to the title. Could you darken the color perhaps...and maybe add a black outline around the symbol?
Regarding the bonus legend, the flag looks a little funny...and it almost feels like it is crowding tat particular area of the map. I'm not a big fan of it, at the moment.
Have you considered darkening Midden slightly, to make it more green? It feels a little odd and out of place at the moment, but nothing too bad. Also take a look at how you have both blue color shades next to each other. Sometimes it's best to flip colors.
Your division lines are looking better, they could maybe user a little work, but we'll get to that later perhaps.
Also, what do you think about shortening a few of the longer names? I'd definitely look into that.
The font is alrigt, I've seen better. I like seeing that you are trying a few different ones out, but perhaps a bold and thick isn't the way to go.
Your river looks more like a river now, though it still looks a little odd, don't you think?
Also, Holland now has 3 borders, bonus of 5 for 6 countries? Are you going to knock that down to a 4 bonus, as Midden is nearly the same continent.
Definitely consider some better bridges, other than simple black lines. Consider making them 'stylish lines' (check Malta map for what I mean) or consider something like bridges (check Italy map).

It looks like it is coming along, and getting better.

--Andy

cedar-h · Post by **cedar-h** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:47 pm

I think Utrecht should have a higher bonus for holding it... Although its small, it has i think 7 borders so it should have a higher bonus in my opinion.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:04 pm

I'd have to say any higher bonus, would be a potential disaster. It may not be a perfect 'hold out' continent, to that of SA or Australia, but I think it will be an interesting area of battle, and perhaps allow you to slip into one of the easier continents to hold.

--Andy

Teya · Post by **Teya** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:10 am

I dont know if this has already been mentioned, but this map is similar to the BeNeLux map. Do we really need both? And I think the other map looks alot better and way more professional.