Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

[Napoleon Ier]

So why do I seem to be the only person in favor of chemically castrating people with an IQ below 90?

That would be because it makes you sound like a Nazi.

Maybe. But it's still wrong to be against it based on the fact the Nazis supported it... you might as well oppose the building of highways.

[PLAYER57832]

So why do I seem to be the only person in favor of chemically castrating people with an IQ below 90?

That would be because it makes you sound like a Nazi.

Maybe. But it's still wrong to be against it based on the fact the Nazis supported it... you might as well oppose the building of highways.

Backwards.

We are against the Nazis BECAUSE of this sort of thinking, even though there was a time when the US very briefly embraced the ideas.

People's value, ability to contributeto society is not judged by their IQ. There are a lot of accomplish nothing jerks in MENSA!

[Napoleon Ier]

OK, fair enough. IQ isn't the best measure, let's use something else, but still remember that what we're worried about is declining intelligence.

And regardless of why you dislike Nazism, calling someone a Nazi whenever what they say vaguely coincides with something you think a generic Nazi may at one time have said (and this could range from "the sky is blue today" to "let's build Autobahns" to "yeah let's build them then run over some jews on them") is a logical fallacy.

[a.sub]

OK, fair enough. IQ isn't the best measure, let's use something else, but still remember that what we're worried about is declining intelligence.

And regardless of why you dislike Nazism, calling someone a Nazi whenever what they say vaguely coincides with something you think a generic Nazi may at one time have said (and this could range from "the sky is blue today" to "let's build Autobahns" to "yeah let's build them then run over some jews on them") is a logical fallacy.

hitler was a vegetarian, pro animal rights, and wanted to ban smoking meaning ...

I AM THE UBER NAZI i dont know how to get the dots over my u in uber

[Napoleon Ier]

OK, fair enough. IQ isn't the best measure, let's use something else, but still remember that what we're worried about is declining intelligence.

And regardless of why you dislike Nazism, calling someone a Nazi whenever what they say vaguely coincides with something you think a generic Nazi may at one time have said (and this could range from "the sky is blue today" to "let's build Autobahns" to "yeah let's build them then run over some jews on them") is a logical fallacy.

hitler was a vegetarian, pro animal rights, and wanted to ban smoking meaning ...

I AM THE UBER NAZI i dont know how to get the dots over my u in uber

I'm sorry, that quotation is too brilliant.

[MeDeFe]

OK, fair enough. IQ isn't the best measure, let's use something else, but still remember that what we're worried about is declining intelligence.

And regardless of why you dislike Nazism, calling someone a Nazi whenever what they say vaguely coincides with something you think a generic Nazi may at one time have said (and this could range from "the sky is blue today" to "let's build Autobahns" to "yeah let's build them then run over some jews on them") is a logical fallacy.

hitler was a vegetarian, pro animal rights, and wanted to ban smoking meaning ...

I AM THE UBER NAZI i dont know how to get the dots over my u in uber

Hütler woüldn't have made that müstake, hü woüld alwaüs get his döts right.

[a.sub]

OK, fair enough. IQ isn't the best measure, let's use something else, but still remember that what we're worried about is declining intelligence.

And regardless of why you dislike Nazism, calling someone a Nazi whenever what they say vaguely coincides with something you think a generic Nazi may at one time have said (and this could range from "the sky is blue today" to "let's build Autobahns" to "yeah let's build them then run over some jews on them") is a logical fallacy.

hitler was a vegetarian, pro animal rights, and wanted to ban smoking meaning ...

I AM THE UBER NAZI i dont know how to get the dots over my u in uber

I'm sorry, that quotation is too brilliant.

damn that isnt going to end well for me lol

[Napoleon Ier]

OK, fair enough. IQ isn't the best measure, let's use something else, but still remember that what we're worried about is declining intelligence.

And regardless of why you dislike Nazism, calling someone a Nazi whenever what they say vaguely coincides with something you think a generic Nazi may at one time have said (and this could range from "the sky is blue today" to "let's build Autobahns" to "yeah let's build them then run over some jews on them") is a logical fallacy.

hitler was a vegetarian, pro animal rights, and wanted to ban smoking meaning ...

I AM THE UBER NAZI i dont know how to get the dots over my u in uber

Hütler woüldn't have made that müstake, hü woüld alwaüs get his döts right.

I believe one should correctly refer to them as umlauts. Why, you are a nothing spelling and grammar Nazi wannabe...

[MeDeFe]

Actually an Umlaut is when the radical vowel in a word stem is changed when the word is inflected.

In Germanic languages (Nordic languages and German, probably also Dutch, but I'm no expert there) this usually does involve ü, ä and ö, but neither those letters, nor the sounds they represent, are themselves Umlauts. (That plural form pains me, correct as it might be)

A rather well-known example would be 'Frau' (eng. Mrs.), of which the diminutive form is 'Fräulein' (eng. Miss). 'au' is pronounced as the 'ou' in 'about', while 'äu' is pronounced as the 'oy' in 'boy'.
Another example is 'Bad' (eng. bath), plural form: 'Bäder'. The long aa-sound changes so it is a lot closer to the e-sound you find in words like 'reptile' or the 'ea' in 'feather', though not as short. (Think "reehptile")

Unfortunately there are no good phonetic equivalents with which to explain 'ü' and 'ö', but the principle should be a little clearer.

[a.sub]

Actually an Umlaut is when the radical vowel in a word stem is changed when the word is inflected.

In Germanic languages (Nordic languages and German, probably also Dutch, but I'm no expert there) this usually does involve ü, ä and ö, but neither those letters, nor the sounds they represent, are themselves Umlauts. (That plural form pains me, correct as it might be)

A rather well-known example would be 'Frau' (eng. Mrs.), of which the diminutive form is 'Fräulein' (eng. Miss). 'au' is pronounced as the 'ou' in 'about', while 'äu' is pronounced as the 'oy' in 'boy'.
Another example is 'Bad' (eng. bath), plural form: 'Bäder'. The long aa-sound changes so it is a lot closer to the e-sound you find in words like 'reptile' or the 'ea' in 'feather', though not as short. (Think "reehptile")

Unfortunately there are no good phonetic equivalents with which to explain 'ü' and 'ö', but the principle should be a little clearer.

OWNED

[Martin Ronne]

Actually an Umlaut is when the radical vowel in a word stem is changed when the word is inflected.

In Germanic languages (Nordic languages and German, probably also Dutch, but I'm no expert there) this usually does involve ü, ä and ö, but neither those letters, nor the sounds they represent, are themselves Umlauts. (That plural form pains me, correct as it might be)

A rather well-known example would be 'Frau' (eng. Mrs.), of which the diminutive form is 'Fräulein' (eng. Miss). 'au' is pronounced as the 'ou' in 'about', while 'äu' is pronounced as the 'oy' in 'boy'.
Another example is 'Bad' (eng. bath), plural form: 'Bäder'. The long aa-sound changes so it is a lot closer to the e-sound you find in words like 'reptile' or the 'ea' in 'feather', though not as short. (Think "reehptile")

Unfortunately there are no good phonetic equivalents with which to explain 'ü' and 'ö', but the principle should be a little clearer.

OWNED

Ünterseebooten Lüger Sheiße!!!!!!!!!!

[Napoleon Ier]

Actually an Umlaut is when the radical vowel in a word stem is changed when the word is inflected.

In Germanic languages (Nordic languages and German, probably also Dutch, but I'm no expert there) this usually does involve ü, ä and ö, but neither those letters, nor the sounds they represent, are themselves Umlauts. (That plural form pains me, correct as it might be)

A rather well-known example would be 'Frau' (eng. Mrs.), of which the diminutive form is 'Fräulein' (eng. Miss). 'au' is pronounced as the 'ou' in 'about', while 'äu' is pronounced as the 'oy' in 'boy'.
Another example is 'Bad' (eng. bath), plural form: 'Bäder'. The long aa-sound changes so it is a lot closer to the e-sound you find in words like 'reptile' or the 'ea' in 'feather', though not as short. (Think "reehptile")

Unfortunately there are no good phonetic equivalents with which to explain 'ü' and 'ö', but the principle should be a little clearer.

That's what an umlaut is, and that's what should have been substituted for the standard u in the post in question. I don't quite see how that changes the fact you crudely referred to the umlaut as "dots".

You have furthermore capitalized the word "umlaut" in your posts. We do not capitalize our nouns in good Queen's English, unless they are proper nouns.

[a.sub]

Actually an Umlaut is when the radical vowel in a word stem is changed when the word is inflected.

In Germanic languages (Nordic languages and German, probably also Dutch, but I'm no expert there) this usually does involve ü, ä and ö, but neither those letters, nor the sounds they represent, are themselves Umlauts. (That plural form pains me, correct as it might be)

A rather well-known example would be 'Frau' (eng. Mrs.), of which the diminutive form is 'Fräulein' (eng. Miss). 'au' is pronounced as the 'ou' in 'about', while 'äu' is pronounced as the 'oy' in 'boy'.
Another example is 'Bad' (eng. bath), plural form: 'Bäder'. The long aa-sound changes so it is a lot closer to the e-sound you find in words like 'reptile' or the 'ea' in 'feather', though not as short. (Think "reehptile")

Unfortunately there are no good phonetic equivalents with which to explain 'ü' and 'ö', but the principle should be a little clearer.

OWNED

Ünterseebooten Lüger Sheiße!!!!!!!!!!

i took german in kindergarten, it was a great language and i was semi-fluent, but i dont remember crap now from lack of use

[Neoteny]

Nicht so einen Scheiss.

I'm just lazy, and losing what fluency I had.

[snufkin]

In Germanic languages (Nordic languages and German, probably also Dutch, but I'm no expert there) this usually does involve ü, ä and ö..

In Nordic languages I think this is more unusual than usual although not very uncommon with verbs.

Unfortunately there are no good phonetic equivalents with which to explain 'ü' and 'ö', but the principle should be a little clearer.

Ö - the "U" sound in murder/the "I" in bird/the "EA" in heard/the "O" in word.. sometimes shorter

Ü - the Y in amaryllis (at least for some Brits).. sometimes prolonged

[a.sub]

i like how off track this has gone

[MeDeFe]

In Germanic languages (Nordic languages and German, probably also Dutch, but I'm no expert there) this usually does involve ü, ä and ö..

In Nordic languages I think this is more unusual than usual although not very uncommon with verbs.

Unfortunately there are no good phonetic equivalents with which to explain 'ü' and 'ö', but the principle should be a little clearer.

Ö - the "U" sound in murder/the "I" in bird/the "EA" in heard/the "O" in word.. sometimes shorter

Ü - the Y in amaryllis (at least for some Brits).. sometimes prolonged

You're right, 'murder' and 'heard' come quite close to the 'ö' sound.

And in Nordic languages you have for example (in Swedish) sg. 'bror' and pl. 'bröder' (brother), so it does happen among nouns as well, though I can also think of more verbs than nouns.

i like how off track this has gone

Don't worry, it'll get back on track, it always does.

[jonesthecurl]

It's not off-track, just evolving.

[a.sub]

It's not off-track, just evolving.

[PLAYER57832]

It's not off-track, just evolving.

But evolution is supposed to be false, how can that be?

[a.sub]

well if this thread is an example of evolution, we have seen proof that it works and exists

[jonesthecurl]

No, it must have been deliberate. How could you possibly imagine that we'd be discussin umlauts "just by chance"?

You can't get umlauts from nowhere.

[MeDeFe]

No, it must have been deliberate. How could you possibly imagine that we'd be discussin umlauts "just by chance"?

You can't get umlauts from nowhere.

But maybe a discussion about them.

[PLAYER57832]

Divine intervention.

[Martin Ronne]

I went to england and wales in the summer of 07', and I still have a ten pound bill. On the back there is a picture of Darwin, so I keep it in my wallet hoping it will evolve into a twenty..................


no such luck quite yet.