Constant unwarranted abuse: demonfork [settled/noted]

by **e_i_pi** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:27 pm

Accused:

demonfork

The accused are suspected of:

Breaking pretty much every Forum Guideline there is

Comments:

He trolls me all the time, whether it's in chat or the forums. Here's his latest effort.

He has managed to fill the entire first page of the thread with one complaint he repeats over and over, that I came up with a solution for in my first reply. He continued to the point that his suggestion was of the calibre that it would never even happen, and still I provide solution - the same solution. And he keeps replying to the thread with the same tired argument over and over.

By my reckoning, he's infringed these guidelines:

Posts that add nothing to the current topic
Posting the same thing over and over
Being intentionally annoying
Flame baiting
Don't de-rail topics, don't spam them, don't flame them, don't bait them, don't drive a topic into a negative spiral

by **owenshooter** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:49 pm

well, he pretty much just disagrees with you and was making a rational argument against your idea... i don't really see the problem. he responded to every post you made against his opposition to your idea. i generally agree with you e_i_pi_0h, but i think you are being sensitive on this one...-0

by **Kotaro** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:54 pm

demonfork wrote:
I don't think I have ever heard a more idiotic suggestion than this one! If something like this were ever implemented it would be the end of this site!

That's rational? That's not even disagreeing, that's stating his personal beliefs about his idea. It also added nothing to the idea, the quoting the giant text was pretty annoying and unnecessary, it was flaming e_i_pi's idea, as well as baiting him.

by **e_i_pi** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:56 pm

owenshooter wrote:well, he pretty much just disagrees with you and was making a rational argument against your idea... i don't really see the problem. he responded to every post you made against his opposition to your idea.

Keep in mind, a solution was made to his argument in my first reply. That solution is the same solution to every situation he brought up. Also keep in mind that every situation he brought up was exactly the same. He's trolling and attempting to derail the thread, it's plain as day.

i generally agree with you e_ip_i_0h, but i think you are being sensitive on this one...-0

I'm posting a suggestion in order to generate community discussion on ways the site could improve. A troll comes along and makes it his mission to derail the thread. This isn't about sensitivity, it's about having zero tolerance for the sort of person that contributes absolutely nothing.

EDIT (fastpost): Also, thank you Kotaro for your post

by **Bones2484** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:13 pm

This is exactly the reason demon has been on my foe list for months and months and (I think) I've never played against him. He is rather pathetic and doesn't belong on the forums.

edit: Not to mention df's blatant disregard for the rating system and abuse of opponents in game chat. There aren't many people around here that the site would be better off without, but he sure is one of them.

by **Jeff Hardy** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:40 pm

Bones2484 wrote:There aren't many people around here that the site would be better off without, but he sure is one of them.

He is a paying customer.

by **porkenbeans** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:05 pm

e_i_pi wrote:
owenshooter wrote:well, he pretty much just disagrees with you and was making a rational argument against your idea... i don't really see the problem. he responded to every post you made against his opposition to your idea.

Keep in mind, a solution was made to his argument in my first reply. That solution is the same solution to every situation he brought up. Also keep in mind that every situation he brought up was exactly the same. He's trolling and attempting to derail the thread, it's plain as day.
i generally agree with you e_ip_i_0h, but i think you are being sensitive on this one...-0

I'm posting a suggestion in order to generate community discussion on ways the site could improve. A troll comes along and makes it his mission to derail the thread. This isn't about sensitivity, it's about having zero tolerance for the sort of person that contributes absolutely nothing.

EDIT (fastpost): Also, thank you Kotaro for your post

I know first hand how this feels. And also by your accused, ...as well as others.

by **owenshooter** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:19 pm

Kotaro wrote:
demonfork wrote:
I don't think I have ever heard a more idiotic suggestion than this one! If something like this were ever implemented it would be the end of this site!

That's rational? That's not even disagreeing, that's stating his personal beliefs about his idea. It also added nothing to the idea, the quoting the giant text was pretty annoying and unnecessary, it was flaming e_i_pi's idea, as well as baiting him.

you pulled out one little flamish snippet... he had some very valid counter arguments to e_i_pi_Oh's idea... nowhere near enough for a warning (and nowhere near what you did to me in another thread in this very forum, kotaro, and i did not respond...)...-0

by **wcaclimbing** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:17 pm

I've used the 'report post' button on at least two of his posts, but both got the "this report has been closed" response, with nothing done about him.

by **demonfork** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:54 pm

e_i_pi wrote:Accused:

demonfork

The accused are suspected of:

Breaking pretty much every Forum Guideline there is

Comments:

He trolls me all the time, whether it's in chat or the forums. Here's his latest effort.

He has managed to fill the entire first page of the thread with one complaint he repeats over and over, that I came up with a solution for in my first reply. He continued to the point that his suggestion was of the calibre that it would never even happen, and still I provide solution - the same solution. And he keeps replying to the thread with the same tired argument over and over.

By my reckoning, he's infringed these guidelines:
Posts that add nothing to the current topic
Posting the same thing over and over
Being intentionally annoying
Flame baiting
Don't de-rail topics, don't spam them, don't flame them, don't bait them, don't drive a topic into a negative spiral

You are so full of shit!

I wrote....

"
I showed you how absurd this rule would be if implemented.

I know that believe people that run this site are smart enough to never put in place this idiotic suggestion, it will never happen!

Therefore I have no need to continue wasting bandwidth on this topic!"

and you reply with this crap.......

e_i_pi wrote:
demonfork wrote:I showed you how absurd this rule would be if implemented.

...and I refuted it in a way that you had no comeback to. Competition is over. I win

I know that believe people that run this site are smart enough to never put in place this idiotic suggestion, it will never happen!

Back to the broken record routine I see. Bury your head in the sand and see how many people support you down there.

Therefore I have no need to continue wasting bandwidth on this topic!

Good, crawl back to your hole and stop trolling so the adults can discuss the idea in peace.

Had you have kept your fucking mouth shut AFTER I said that I had no need to continue on with the topic, I would have not felt the need to respond to your baiting and flaming!

Did you think that saying things like....

"Competition is over. I win"

and

"Bury your head in the sand"

and

"crawl back to your hole"

...were not said to deliberately bait me into responding? Or are you just being a hypocrite?

by **wcaclimbing** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:35 pm

That last response from demonfork has a few parts that could be flaming/baiting.

but e_i_pi, you are just as guilty as he is. At least in the flaming/baiting category.

Here are a few quotes from the thread you linked to. All of these are you referring to demonfork in that topic.
My favorite is the last quote in this list. especially the part that I made bold. It seemed a bit hypocritical to me...

It wouldn't you moron, understand?
D-I-P-S-H-I-T!!!!

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Your brain will never be implemented...

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Back to the broken record routine I see. Bury your head in the sand and see how many people support you down there.

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Good, crawl back to your hole and stop trolling so the adults can discuss the idea in peace.

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You have demonstrated in this thread your inability to be anything other than a troll and an idiot. Take it elsewhere. Alternately, keep providing bait for the mods - I'm sure they appreciate your attitude in Suggs and Bugs, considering it is non-constructive baiting trolling flaming idiocy.

Just pointing out that demonfork wasn't the only one acting badly here.

by **InsomniaRed** on Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:39 pm

Jeff Hardy wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:There aren't many people around here that the site would be better off without, but he sure is one of them.

He is a paying customer.

Just like with Live Chat, you do not buy forums when you buy premium. That membership is for unlimited games and speed games on this site. Forums are a privilege and they should not be abused.

by **e_i_pi** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:26 am

wcaclimbing wrote:Just pointing out that demonfork wasn't the only one acting badly here.

I foe'd him about 2 months ago. Since then, he obsessively chases me trolling my posts wca. He does it in Live Chat too.

In the thread, he suggested a problem with my idea, and I refuted it giving evidence of how that problem can be circumvented. He posted another 3 times with that same problem, despite the fact that it had been refuted cleanly. He has accounted for about 40-50% of the posts in that thread, and is now not only baiting me, but 2 other posters as well.

I'll take full responsibility for attacking him back, but I did not aggress, and I am not the one carrying on like a child week after week.

by **demonfork** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:44 am

e_i_pi wrote:
wcaclimbing wrote:Just pointing out that demonfork wasn't the only one acting badly here.

I foe'd him about 2 months ago. Since then, he obsessively chases me trolling my posts wca. He does it in Live Chat too.

In the thread, he suggested a problem with my idea, and I refuted it giving evidence of how that problem can be circumvented. He posted another 3 times with that same problem, despite the fact that it had been refuted cleanly. He has accounted for about 40-50% of the posts in that thread, and is now not only baiting me, but 2 other posters as well.

I'll take full responsibility for attacking him back, but I did not aggress, and I am not the one carrying on like a child week after week.

The fact is, you foed me even though I had never played one game with you or had even one conversation with you! (which you let me know that you foed me in chat for what reason IDK, I would have never known otherwise)

saying that I obsessively chase you is a gross exaggeration and quite frankly just a complete lie

If the truth be known, you are the one that continually harasses me in chat, even to to the point where I once said that " I Wished that the ignore feature worked in chat too" then you proceeded to flame me letting me know how stupid I was because I was ignorant to the fact that there in indeed an ignore feature in chat!

The fact is you at no time did you ever "cleanly" refute any of my problems with your suggestion, the fact remains that under you system a low ranked player would not be allowed to publicly host a game with a higher ranked player, A problem that lower rankers are already taking issue with!

case in point...

Postby Downey » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:07 am
But I wanna play against higher ranks!

by **lancehoch** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:48 am

Guys, both of you knock it off. df, you expressed that you do not like his idea, done. It only takes one post. pie, just ignore him, responding to him only makes him respond more.

by **demonfork** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:54 am

lancehoch wrote:Guys, both of you knock it off. df, you expressed that you do not like his idea, done. It only takes one post. pie, just ignore him, responding to him only makes him respond more.

You have got to be kidding me, A guy publicly accuses me of abuse, and when I go to defend myself you tell me to knock it off?!?

by **demonfork** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:50 am

lancehoch wrote:Guys, both of you knock it off. df, you expressed that you do not like his idea, done. It only takes one post. pie, just ignore him, responding to him only makes him respond more.

I'm done, your advice to "knock it off" has been taken, I don't plan on crossing paths with e_i_pi ever again, hopefully he will do the same.

by **Jeff Hardy** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:38 am

InsomniaRed wrote:
Jeff Hardy wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:There aren't many people around here that the site would be better off without, but he sure is one of them.

He is a paying customer.

Just like with Live Chat, you do not buy forums when you buy premium. That membership is for unlimited games and speed games on this site. Forums are a privilege and they should not be abused.

forums and live chat are still one of the reasons a lot of people stick around here (and also buy premium)
and like me in live chat, he wasnt abusing but haters see what they want to see

by **king achilles** on Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:32 am

demonfork wrote:
lancehoch wrote:Guys, both of you knock it off. df, you expressed that you do not like his idea, done. It only takes one post. pie, just ignore him, responding to him only makes him respond more.

I'm done, your advice to "knock it off" has been taken, I don't plan on crossing paths with e_i_pi ever again, hopefully he will do the same.

e_i_pi, I also hope the same from you. Taken from that statement, we hope we don't hear any more of this. For the both of you, if you want to make this bigger, that is up to you, but please do so in Flamewars. I suggest that you just knock it off instead.