American Revolution Americans Get Independence Again

[Thezzaruz]

I doubt this game has a true informed minority.

Agree on that, a mexican SK and/or an indian survivor wouldn't surprise me though.

[got tonkaed]

There seems to be a fair amount of what is concievably (given the likely semantics of this game) misinformation going around. There is not necessarily a mafia faction persay (or in all likelyhood there is not). Depending on how you are aligned certainly you may wish to view yourself as town, but this isnt necessarily a game that leans toward it. If i remember correctly there were a few third party roles here and there, but the group was very well balanced in terms of having two major factions.

While it is possible certainly that a 3rd party individual made the kill on ga7 it is not manditory. It is very likely that there at least two vigs (1 per each major faction). I say this as i was a vig in the original concept game civil war. Some individuals will not shoot the first night, other more trigger happy vigs are far more likely too. In all likelyhood we will see killing numbers go up as the game progresses. At the moment it appears those with the guns are more gun shy than those in the past. At least 2 or 3 players have made their alignment clear today, so affiliations based on voting should be a little more established.

[derfderf34]

me voting for mr incrediballs makes me what faction exactly?

[got tonkaed]

me voting for mr incrediballs makes me what faction exactly?

well to some extent your vote is a bit iffy because you dont necessarily seem to understand the mechanics of the game, or did not at the time of your vote. However it could be understood that you oppose the faction he was trying to present himself leaning toward.

[jnd94]

Hmmm......Mib sounded a little suspicious, but I think it wasn't a big thing.

However, I find MM's whole outcry a little scummy. It's a good idea for 2 members of the mafia to fight to rtry and seperate the 2. Although they didn't fight, MM said that ga7 was prob scum, which means he either just made a stupid guess and was right, or the 2 were togheter.

Vote MM

[animorpherv1]

I doubt this game has a true informed minority.

Agree on that, a mexican SK and/or an indian survivor wouldn't surprise me though.

A Psycopath wouldn't surprise me, but there would have to be a psychiatrist.

[jnd94]

Really, there would? And how would you know that, good sir?

FOS Ani

[pancakemix]

Hmmm......Mib sounded a little suspicious, but I think it wasn't a big thing.

However, I find MM's whole outcry a little scummy. It's a good idea for 2 members of the mafia to fight to try and separate the 2. Although they didn't fight, MM said that ga7 was prob scum, which means he either just made a stupid guess and was right, or the 2 were together.

Vote MM

All MM was saying was that he and ga7 were on opposite sides. The only thing that indicates is that he's American. That may be good or bad, but that all depends on what side of the coin you're on. Given that reaction, I'd say your British and also in no place to make such an outburst as you're likely outnumbered, albeit by a slim margin.

[cena-rules]

Really, there would? And how would you know that, good sir?

FOS Ani

because they are linked roles,

also Im not vote mib because I dont have a clue as to whats going on.

[Minister Masket]

Hmmm......Mib sounded a little suspicious, but I think it wasn't a big thing.

However, I find MM's whole outcry a little scummy. It's a good idea for 2 members of the mafia to fight to try and separate the 2. Although they didn't fight, MM said that ga7 was prob scum, which means he either just made a stupid guess and was right, or the 2 were together.

Vote MM

All MM was saying was that he and ga7 were on opposite sides. The only thing that indicates is that he's American. That may be good or bad, but that all depends on what side of the coin you're on. Given that reaction, I'd say your British and also in no place to make such an outburst as you're likely outnumbered, albeit by a slim margin.

Also he is clearly unaware of the inter-game rivalry between me and ga7, and how we always end up on opposite sides.
Mr jnd, that was no "stupid guess". That was tradition.

[Thezzaruz]

Really, there would? And how would you know that, good sir?

Well those roles comes as a pair you know (at least by any rules I've seen).

MM said that ga7 was prob scum, which means he either just made a stupid guess and was right, or the 2 were togheter.

It was the usual banter between them (I have FOS:ed MM for such antics before and been proven wrong ) so I'd have to go with stupid guess.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Vote Count a bunch needed to lynch

2 MIB: Derf, Hologram,
1 MM: JND

[LSU Tiger Josh]

BTW I did post a final day 1 vote count back on the page announcing night 1.

[drake_259]

Well this game seems a bit hard, you want to vote the opposite fraction while not revealing your own and while only being able to vote 6 times in one day.

and as for jnd, i dont know why you are fos'ing ani for saying the same as everyone else except with a bit of a change


and i also think there could be 3rd party in the game, but maybe there aren't, ine of the vigs could have just shoot someone just for the sake of it, we have all seen it before.

[got tonkaed]

It sort of depends on how you go about winning the game. In theory each faction should be working to reduce the other, while figuring out how to incorporate or eliminate the third parties (depending on how they are sorted). The third party individuals should seek to keep both of the main factions continually declining in a balanced way when possible so that they stand the best chance of surviving until they have the oppertunity to influcnce the game. If i remember correctly the foreign third parties will have oppertunities to side with a group (which makes sense within the context of the game). Given that a power role brit died yesterday, the third party (or non-american role) today should probably seek to lynch an American, and reevaluate after the night.

MM is the clearest target in that regard.

[william18]

Really, there would? And how would you know that, good sir?

FOS Ani

Probably Mafiascumwiki.

[derfderf34]

It sort of depends on how you go about winning the game. In theory each faction should be working to reduce the other, while figuring out how to incorporate or eliminate the third parties (depending on how they are sorted). The third party individuals should seek to keep both of the main factions continually declining in a balanced way when possible so that they stand the best chance of surviving until they have the oppertunity to influcnce the game. If i remember correctly the foreign third parties will have oppertunities to side with a group (which makes sense within the context of the game). Given that a power role brit died yesterday, the third party (or non-american role) today should probably seek to lynch an American, and reevaluate after the night.

MM is the clearest target in that regard.

thta sounds kind of british

[jnd94]

Hmmm......Mib sounded a little suspicious, but I think it wasn't a big thing.

However, I find MM's whole outcry a little scummy. It's a good idea for 2 members of the mafia to fight to try and separate the 2. Although they didn't fight, MM said that ga7 was prob scum, which means he either just made a stupid guess and was right, or the 2 were together.

Vote MM

All MM was saying was that he and ga7 were on opposite sides. The only thing that indicates is that he's American. That may be good or bad, but that all depends on what side of the coin you're on. Given that reaction, I'd say your British and also in no place to make such an outburst as you're likely outnumbered, albeit by a slim margin.

Also he is clearly unaware of the inter-game rivalry between me and ga7, and how we always end up on opposite sides.
Mr jnd, that was no "stupid guess". That was tradition.

I don't like metagaming.

[dunc_2007]

and i also think there could be 3rd party in the game, but maybe there aren't, ine of the vigs could have just shoot someone just for the sake of it, we have all seen it before.

Actually, I'd say that there probably are third party in this game. Why, you ask? Because there's 25 people playing. 25 is an odd number, and I doubt the two main factions would start with uneven numbers of members.

[derfderf34]

and i also think there could be 3rd party in the game, but maybe there aren't, ine of the vigs could have just shoot someone just for the sake of it, we have all seen it before.

Actually, I'd say that there probably are third party in this game. Why, you ask? Because there's 25 people playing. 25 is an odd number, and I doubt the two main factions would start with uneven numbers of members.

ya but the question is if the thire party has 1 3 5 or more members

[jnd94]

I doubt this game has a true informed minority.

Agree on that, a mexican SK and/or an indian survivor wouldn't surprise me though.

A Psycopath wouldn't surprise me, but there would have to be a psychiatrist.

Fine, let me explain why I found this scummy.

1) This quote is talking about possible 3rd parties. SK's and Survivors are normal 3rd party roles. However, for Ani to assume that there is a psycho/psych is an odd assumption b/c that is not a normal 3rd party role duo. It is rarely used, atleast IMO.

2) To assume that LSU would take uncommon roles from mafiascum w/o changing them is highly unlikely. He isn't a new mod, and I'm going to guess more thought went into the roles thatn that.

How the hell would a psychopath not surprise you? On what side would the psycho be on?

[animorpherv1]

I specifcally thought "Someone who is fed up with the war and also has mental illnesses"

[animorpherv1]

EBWOP:

The psychopath wsould be 3rd party.

[jnd94]

Seems like an odd assumption, unless you were the role and was trying some kind of reverse psychology thing.

[got tonkaed]

derf im simply trying to clear up some of the confusion and point out what is likely going to be required to avoid letting either one of the parties get in control. If there was an American lynch today and death tonight, id advocate a british lynch the next day.