Off Topic edit re "Simple Solution to Farming/Point Hoarding"

maxatstuy · Post by **maxatstuy** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:58 pm

FarangDemon wrote:[*]Game 3742402

Same deal.

2008-11-28 07:36:53 - kylegraves1: you stole my game[/list]

ROFL...I think this is the best part!

As a new recruit, kylegraves private messaged everyone with a rank colonel and up for advice on how to play. I was the only person that responded as I found out later. I have not only been in the process of teaching kyle, but I was probably the reason why he purchased premium. Additionally, when he said that I stole his game, he was trying to join that game for the same reason which I joined, he wanted to up his rank and that was a n00b game.

Farming is done by anyone who joins those games, not just high ranks, and my limiting high ranks to joining then, you are saying that there should be a double standard. If I could only play someone with two thirds of my score, I could only play 46 people, many of who are blocked or foed.

While I agree that joining games with people waiting for their friends is sleazy, and for that reason I avoid playing many n00b games, take a look at the game chat:

Game 3231819

redhawk92 · Post by **redhawk92** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:12 pm

good explanation max

i joined to farm not to play him

redhawk92 · Post by **redhawk92** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:45 pm

look at my games i play terminator how could i be a farmer

i was messing around with him he had been in for like twenty or more minutes

FarangDemon · Post by **FarangDemon** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:22 am

Kyle,

Thanks for correcting my mistake about why you wrote you that comment in that new recruit's game - I have updated the thread accordingly. But I respectfully request that you stop flaming this suggestion thread, as that is your stated intention. Please keep comments pertinent to the suggestion.

From Max's Wall:

where at which forum i will go flame them

by kylegraves1
on Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:08 am

whats up

by kylegraves1
on Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:07 am

I have nothing personal against Max or anybody on CC. He is playing within the system and succeeding and more power to him for being so good at it. I'm serious. But I just want ConquerClub to be a place where you don't have to resort to farming to win. It should be like any other competitive game where to be acclaimed the best you have to beat the best. Like Ric Flair says, "To be the man, you gotta beat the man!".

maxatstuy · Post by **maxatstuy** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:48 pm

FarangDemon wrote:Kyle,

Thanks for correcting my mistake about why you wrote you that comment in that new recruit's game - I have updated the thread accordingly. But I respectfully request that you stop flaming this suggestion thread, as that is your stated intention. Please keep comments pertinent to the suggestion.

From Max's Wall:

where at which forum i will go flame them

by kylegraves1
on Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:08 am

whats up

by kylegraves1
on Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:07 am

I have nothing personal against Max or anybody on CC. He is playing within the system and succeeding and more power to him for being so good at it. I'm serious. But I just want ConquerClub to be a place where you don't have to resort to farming to win. It should be like any other competitive game where to be acclaimed the best you have to beat the best. Like Ric Flair says, "To be the man, you gotta beat the man!".

As far as I can tell, kyle never once flamed this thread...he was taking my advice from his wall

Dont flame...just rofl

by maxatstuy
on Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:09 pm

* Delete post

I find the fact that sjnap could play colonel games, and even brig games, and still be excluded from the scoreboard because brigadiers dont have 2/3s his score rather hilarious. Farming may be a big issue on this site in the opinion of some, but how would you explain that someone like me, who plays 4 point games, a few active at a time, manages to keep his spot on the scoreboard while other farmers remain strippers and mid ranked officers. Clearly if it was as big of an issue as you and others are hyping it out to be, I would have a lot more competition, that playing 1-1s would be considered obsolete due to the competition from others playing 8-player games, and who win eight times the amount of points which I get per game, while playing ten times the amount of games which I play.

redhawk92 · Post by **redhawk92** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:38 am

what about farmers up hoes down like our great conquerer says

lgoasklucyl · Post by **lgoasklucyl** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:42 am

Let's PM tons of ?s when they first get here, organize them, have them learn through watching our games before playing, then set them loose on Max, Herpes, and the like.

Wouldn't it be priceless to watch a player drop 300 points over the course of 5 games, then have to win it back over the course of 50?

porkenbeans · Post by **porkenbeans** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:11 am

lgoasklucyl wrote:Let's PM tons of ?s when they first get here, organize them, have them learn through watching our games before playing, then set them loose on Max, Herpes, and the like.

Wouldn't it be priceless to watch a player drop 300 points over the course of 5 games, then have to win it back over the course of 50?

This is a fantastic idea. YES, I had the idea in another thread, that it would be great to organize a Farmers - Farmer group. I had the idea when I saw them create the Farmers guild. I thought OK, lets farm the farmers.
I invite any one that is interested in signing up for instructors, to pm me.

Oh, and don't bother if you are a farmer., as the new map rank is very good at exposing who you are. ...hehehe.

King_Herpes · Post by **King_Herpes** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:22 am

porkenbeans wrote:
lgoasklucyl wrote:Let's PM tons of ?s when they first get here, organize them, have them learn through watching our games before playing, then set them loose on Max, Herpes, and the like.

Wouldn't it be priceless to watch a player drop 300 points over the course of 5 games, then have to win it back over the course of 50?
This is a fantastic idea. YES, I had the idea in another thread, that it would be great to organize a Farmers - Farmer group. I had the idea when I saw them create the Farmers guild. I thought OK, lets farm the farmers.
I invite any one that is interested in signing up for instructors, to pm me.

Oh, and don't bother if you are a farmer., as the new map rank is very good at exposing who you are. ...hehehe.

I think we have a winner! You could call it, The Deadbeat Guild....

porkenbeans · Post by **porkenbeans** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:29 am

King_Herpes wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
lgoasklucyl wrote:Let's PM tons of ?s when they first get here, organize them, have them learn through watching our games before playing, then set them loose on Max, Herpes, and the like.

Wouldn't it be priceless to watch a player drop 300 points over the course of 5 games, then have to win it back over the course of 50?
This is a fantastic idea. YES, I had the idea in another thread, that it would be great to organize a Farmers - Farmer group. I had the idea when I saw them create the Farmers guild. I thought OK, lets farm the farmers.
I invite any one that is interested in signing up for instructors, to pm me.

Oh, and don't bother if you are a farmer., as the new map rank is very good at exposing who you are. ...hehehe.

I think we have a winner! You could call it, The Deadbeat Guild....

HAHAHA, You picked the Farmers Guild as your name. I am sure that you would allow others to pick their own names. Talk about a clan war, This could be the most epic CC Clan Clash. I will see you KING, at the front lines. ...lol.

lgoasklucyl · Post by **lgoasklucyl** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:38 am

porkenbeans wrote:
King_Herpes wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
lgoasklucyl wrote:Let's PM tons of ?s when they first get here, organize them, have them learn through watching our games before playing, then set them loose on Max, Herpes, and the like.

Wouldn't it be priceless to watch a player drop 300 points over the course of 5 games, then have to win it back over the course of 50?
This is a fantastic idea. YES, I had the idea in another thread, that it would be great to organize a Farmers - Farmer group. I had the idea when I saw them create the Farmers guild. I thought OK, lets farm the farmers.
I invite any one that is interested in signing up for instructors, to pm me.

Oh, and don't bother if you are a farmer., as the new map rank is very good at exposing who you are. ...hehehe.

I think we have a winner! You could call it, The Deadbeat Guild....
HAHAHA, You picked the Farmers Guild as your name. I am sure that you would allow others to pick their own names. Talk about a clan war, This could be the most epic CC Clan Clash. I will see you KING, at the front lines. ...lol.

Wouldn't be all too epic point wise.

Let's assume 40 games total (20 home each team).
One win for the ?s (let's say it's a meaty one): 100 points.
Even at 39 wins for the Farmers @ a whopping 6 points/win that's only 234.

So, at a record of 1-39 in favor of the Farmers Guild they would still only be up 134 points

That is... Assuming we cannot get the ?s to win a bunch. Would only take 3 wins total to surpass the Farmers point wise though

This is also assuming you could get a Farmer to agree to a game with someone who knows what the hell they will be doing and is even remotely capable of coordinating his or her self...
Don't count on it

King_Herpes · Post by **King_Herpes** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:38 am

What a splendid new hobby this will be for you. I'm very excited to see how this pans out. We are definetly finished, I mean stick a fork in all of us farmers because we are done!

porkenbeans wrote: I will see you KING, at the front lines. ...lol.

[modedit]I will see you there my friend .....[/modedit]

redhawk92 · Post by **redhawk92** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:05 am

so you think a bunch of mid ranked players could teach these ?s enought that they could overthrough the farmers

gundiesalvo · Post by **gundiesalvo** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:53 pm

So said the Corporal...

lgoasklucyl · Post by **lgoasklucyl** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:55 pm

kylegraves1 wrote:so you think a bunch of mid ranked players could teach these ?s enought that they could overthrough the farmers

I feel a good percentage of the farmers couldn't handle mid-ranked players on their own, nevermind if they are letting their guard down in any way against a ?. I'm not saying I know I could beat the conqueror himself, but he DID pm me asking me for a game, yet when I pmd him back 'Fine, but no speed-free' I never received another response.

porkenbeans · Post by **porkenbeans** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:59 pm

lgoasklucyl wrote:
kylegraves1 wrote:so you think a bunch of mid ranked players could teach these ?s enought that they could overthrough the farmers

I feel a good percentage of the farmers couldn't handle mid-ranked players on their own, nevermind if they are letting their guard down in any way against a ?. I'm not saying I know I could beat the conqueror himself, but he DID pm me asking me for a game, yet when I pmd him back 'Fine, but no speed-free' I never received another response.

I received the same pm. hahaha.

porkenbeans · Post by **porkenbeans** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:09 pm

kylegraves1 wrote:so you think a bunch of mid ranked players could teach these ?s enought that they could overthrough the farmers

Number 1.) A fricking cook could teach them enough to know NOT to start an FS game.
Number 2.) any equalitatian Maj. is more skilled at 'RISK" than all the noob farming Generals put together.
Pay close attention to the leaderboard, As the noob farmers are about to reap what they have sewn.

...

cicero · Post by **cicero** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:56 pm

I have made this post in duplicate; once here and once in the original Simple Solution to Farming/Point Hoarding thread. [Here's a link to the twin post in that thread.]
That thread had been overwhelmed by off topic posting which has all now been removed and collected here.

Please remember that in Suggestions & Bug Reports you are posting off topic if:

You focus discussion on the players causing a problem. Instead you should focus discussion on the problem itself and the solution.
You discuss things other than the idea suggested in the original post.
You suggest completely different ideas to the one the original post suggests. If you have a subtly different idea, please do make that in the same thread as a it is a variation on the original. But if your idea is completely different to the original post please start a new thread to discuss it. Feel free to post in the original thread to let people know about your new thread.

I believe you will see my intention. Please PM me if you have any questions.

I will move this "Off Topic edit" to General Discussion if discussion continues since, as it is not focussed on the suggestion, that is its proper home.