Constructive criticism

[brooksieb]

Shout out to anybody about it, what they need to improve on, so before this i predict i'll get the most with some people/s making absurd random comments followed by someone telling me in a nutshell i'm stupid.....

[Dancing Mustard]

You need to improve on not being so pessimistic.

[strike wolf]

If I could I would have voted for both manners and debating as it was I just said debating. This really applies to anyone and everyone who has no argument that doesn't involve repeating the same point over and over again or making comments that don't really on anything factual.

[Pedronicus]

there should of been an option for voting for: 'understanding irony'

[oVo]

Speeling could be improved, but all things considered the sentiment is rarely difficult to decypher, and even though your/you're and there/their/they're is constantly butchered it's not something that will ever knock the world off of it's axis.

[joecoolfrog]

there should of been an option for voting for: 'understanding irony'

There would have been but dear old Brooksie couldn't spell it

[Bones2484]

Speeling could be improved, but all things considered the sentiment is rarely difficult to decypher, and even though your/you're and there/their/they're is constantly butchered it's not something that will ever knock the world off of it's axis.

I agree, spelling mistakes are annoying.

[jonesthecurl]

I went for "debating", cos I'm heartily sick of watching the same arguments go round and around repeatedly.
I don't much mind if people get heated or insulting, but repeating yourself is dull.
Another thing I don't like is when people keep saying the same thing.
Over and over.
And repeating themselves.
Until you think "Give it a rest! I got the point already!".
I mean, how lame is that? (repeating yourself I mean).
Here are the main points of the news again:
I voted "debating".
I hate people repeating themselves.

[jonesthecurl]

I went for "debating", cos I'm heartily sick of watching the same arguments go round and around repeatedly.
I don't much mind if people get heated or insulting, but repeating yourself is dull.
Another thing I don't like is when people keep saying the same thing.
Over and over.
And repeating themselves.
Until you think "Give it a rest! I got the point already!".
I mean, how lame is that? (repeating yourself I mean).
Here are the main points of the news again:
I voted "debating".
I hate people repeating themselves.

[oVo]

You can kick a dead horse all day long and still can't make it drink.
So redundancy is also poll-worthy I suppose.

and yes there is a significant difference between pole and poll.

[Frigidus]

I was torn between manners and debate, but I had to go with the one I care about.

[strike wolf]

Speeling could be improved, but all things considered the sentiment is rarely difficult to decypher, and even though your/you're and there/their/they're is constantly butchered it's not something that will ever knock the world off of it's axis.

G1 "whose manning the wheel"

G2 "they're manning it." *points*

G3 "Move the world over there? Okay"

[oVo]

who's... whose... hose... house... how's their's there?

[PLAYER57832]

I was torn between manners and debate, but I had to go with the one I care about.

It is a close tie, but I rather think manners is included in debate. If you have to insult someone, you generally don't have much of a real point.

[TheProwler]

Debating.

Has anyone here ever changed his opinion on any issue? It happens all too infrequently.

If you enter a debate without keeping an open mind and being willing to listen to the other side, the debate will suffer. As will you.

Most people here don't seem to realize, or are not able to admit, that their opponents in a debate might have more or different knowledge on a subject. It is this lack of respect for others that really hurts this forum. It is why debates often don't progress and they end up getting personal. It is very frustrating when one makes a valid point, but the other party totally ignores it, or disregards it due to not giving enough effort to understand its meaning and relevance. And with this frustration come anger and things get personal.

I think part of the problem is that many here suffer from a low self image. I'm not sure if that is the right phrase. I mean they feel okay about themselves. They think they are smart and interesting. But they don't think others feel the same way about them. "I'm a smart interesting person. Why doesn't anyone want to hear what I have to say?" I think most people here are in a position in life where they are not "heard" often enough. I mean their ideas and opinions are not heard or taken really seriously, or at least as seriously as they would like. So they come in here with a bit of a chip on their shoulder. A little over sensitive.

This is not an insult to anyone here. In fact, at least people here feel they have something important to say. I think there are many people do not have this feeling (which is kinda sad).

"I'm a smart interesting person. Why doesn't anyone want to hear what I have to say?"

I'll answer that. Because life is busy. When you are talking to Suzy about something serious and important to you, she is thinking about getting Sammy to hockey and Jessie to dance class that night. And when she's going to have time to get the shopping done for the birthday party on the weekend. So when Suzy seems to not be impressed by your ideas, it is understandable. She hardly even heard you.

And half you bastards aren't even reading this by now because you gotta get Katherine to swimming and get cracking on the report that's due 9:00 tomorrow morning.

[Gypsys Kiss]

I flipped a coin between manners and debating..................and it fell down the back of the sofa. So i voted debating.

You all have the right to any opinion you care to have, but it is only an opinion and therefore open to debate and critisicm(sp). The inability to even consider anothers point of view is one of mankinds biggest failings.

Oh.......and football is played with the feet and not with the hands.




Guilty as charged.

[PLAYER57832]

Debating.

Has anyone here ever changed his opinion on any issue? It happens all too infrequently.

If you enter a debate without keeping an open mind and being willing to listen to the other side, the debate will suffer. As will you.

Most people here don't seem to realize, or are not able to admit, that their opponents in a debate might have more or different knowledge on a subject. It is this lack of respect for others that really hurts this forum. It is why debates often don't progress and they end up getting personal. It is very frustrating when one makes a valid point, but the other party totally ignores it, or disregards it due to not giving enough effort to understand its meaning and relevance. And with this frustration come anger and things get personal.

I completely agree with the first part, but definitely not the second.

A lot of folks here are just plain young. It is a symptom of being young that your world experience is more limited and therefore your perceptions, ability to see other's views truly is limited.

This is part of what education is about ... to help people know how to find answers, including a bit about thoughts and ideas they might never have experienced before.

But, that takes work.

The internet is making this much worse, because now, instead of just a talking this over with a few friends who happen to be put in the same dorm or school with you, suddenly all it takes is a few clicks to find people who think not just similar in some ways, but who think JUST LIKE YOU. That is pretty self-fulfilling. When you add this to the fact that many of those who are doing this are young.. you get a situation that feeds upon itself.

So many here are too young to really and truly have broad experience. When they do "venture out", it is on the internet, where unless they actively TRY to find people who think differant and TRY to truly listen .. they will just find more and more people who think like they do, affirming again that they are "correct", instead of opening up their minds to further possibilities.

So, I would say this is a critical issue not just here within CC, but in the broader world. AND, I would say that if we don't start fixing it pretty soon ... we really will end up in one of those race or ethnic or thought battles so popular in 1970's sci fi.

[CrazyAnglican]

I went for "debating", cos I'm heartily sick of watching the same arguments go round and around repeatedly.
I don't much mind if people get heated or insulting, but repeating yourself is dull.
Another thing I don't like is when people keep saying the same thing.
Over and over.
And repeating themselves.
Until you think "Give it a rest! I got the point already!".
I mean, how lame is that? (repeating yourself I mean).
Here are the main points of the news again:
I voted "debating".
I hate people repeating themselves.

This statement has been approved by The Department of Redundancy Dept.

[jonesthecurl]

Prowler, your post was interesting.

But long.

I would like to extract the most pertinent point from it.

All you people who post incessantly in thread after thread-

When was the last time you changed your mind because of something another CCer said?

If "never" what is the point of posting?

if "today" how firm were your beliefs?

[TheProwler]

Prowler, your post was interesting.

But long.

I would like to extract the most pertinent point from it.

All you people who post incessantly in thread after thread-

When was the last time you changed your mind because of something another CCer said?

If "never" what is the point of posting?

if "today" how firm were your beliefs?

Not really the point.

If "never"...it is quite possible that you are not listening to the other person's opinions and you are being a little stubborn. You might not have an open mind.

If "today", or any other day, I hope it is because you either gained new information (new to you) and this helped you see things in a different way, or you simply were given a different viewpoint and you were able to keep an open mind and you've decided that this new viewpoint makes more sense. I hope it isn't just because the vast majority of other users disagreed with you and you are just trying to be a part of the majority.

Seriously, jonesthecurl, it seems like you are implying that if someone changes his opinion, he is somehow showing a negative trait. That would be a terrible way to live. You form an opinion on something based on the information you have at a given time. Then when you are given more information, or are presented a different way of thinking about things, you are bound and determined to "be firm in your beliefs"? That is just lying to yourself.

I think that if you don't allow yourself to form different opinions, to change your opinions and beliefs, you aren't allowing yourself to grow.

[jonesthecurl]

you're right. I just changed my mind.

[DAZMCFC]

there should of been an option for voting for: 'understanding irony'

good point Pedro, but i'd go for "getting sarcasm".

[JACKAZZTJM]

i wuld haf to say speling

[btownmeggy]

Manners.

Duh.

[InkL0sed]

Manners.

Duh.

Hi meggy!