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Incandenza wrote:So, then, that's a no to lopping off pitcairn and adding more of indonesia?
gho wrote:The eastern part of indonesia is a part of oceania, see the wallace line:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line
Thus i think you should add another continent, indonesia, with the western part of papua new guinea (known as irian jaya), Celebes, Flores (home to the amazing prehistoric midget men), Timor and all the other islands. You wouldnt need to widen your map because all the territories you would be adding would be above australia.
Geger wrote:gho wrote:The eastern part of indonesia is a part of oceania, see the wallace line:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Line
Thus i think you should add another continent, indonesia, with the western part of papua new guinea (known as irian jaya), Celebes, Flores (home to the amazing prehistoric midget men), Timor and all the other islands. You wouldnt need to widen your map because all the territories you would be adding would be above australia.
Yes, please...
thenobodies80 wrote:I know that wallace line signs the real end of asia continents and tha beginning of Oceania's one, but it seems to be a biological division so we're are discussing about.
Obviously if the community likes it, we can do this change, but since now i say that we can only admit this states:- Celebes
- Flores
- Timor
- Malucas
- Irian Java
Thenobodies80
gho wrote:Incandenza wrote:So, then, that's a no to lopping off pitcairn and adding more of indonesia?
I too want more indonesia, the part east of the wallace line, but you dont need to cut of pitcairn, all the parts of indonesia that are needed are visible as grey territories above of the northern territory and western australia.
Incandenza wrote:gho wrote:Incandenza wrote:So, then, that's a no to lopping off pitcairn and adding more of indonesia?
I too want more indonesia, the part east of the wallace line, but you dont need to cut of pitcairn, all the parts of indonesia that are needed are visible as grey territories above of the northern territory and western australia.
Yeah, you kinda do. The map is already about as wide as it can get, and the mapmakers are going to need space to properly do whatever bit of indonesia they feel appropriate (i.e. terit and continents names, circles, attack routes and what not). Pitcairn is such an outlier that it seems wasteful to include it.
We 're going to include "wallace line zone" based on this picture ( green zone)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/TransOceania_m.png/400px-TransOceania_m.png
but pitcairn will not deleted because it's useful in gameplay.
Next week you can understand better than now , infact we have to post the new map version
I think we could move pitcair a little bit to left but i have to speak with pikkio because he is the graphic.
thenobodies80 wrote:
NEW FEATURES:
WALLACE LINE ZONE ( 5 territories):- Celebes
- Flores
- Timor
- Irian Java
- Malucas
wikipedia wrote:The province was known as "West Irian" or "Irian Barat" from 1969 to 1973, and then renamed "Irian Jaya" (roughly translated, "Glorious Irian") by the Suharto administration. This was the official name until "Papua" was adopted in 2002. Today, natives of this province prefer to call themselves Papuans rather than Irianese.
wikipedia wrote:In 1969, General Sarwo Edhi Wibowo oversaw the Indonesian conduct of the widely criticized "Act of Free Choice." Prior to the vote, the Indonesian military rounded up and detained for one month a large group of Papuan tribal leaders. The Papuans were daily threatened with death at gunpoint if the entire group did not vote to continue Indonesian rule.
e_i_pi wrote:wikipedia wrote:In 1969, General Sarwo Edhi Wibowo oversaw the Indonesian conduct of the widely criticized "Act of Free Choice." Prior to the vote, the Indonesian military rounded up and detained for one month a large group of Papuan tribal leaders. The Papuans were daily threatened with death at gunpoint if the entire group did not vote to continue Indonesian rule.
Geger wrote:e_i_pi wrote:wikipedia wrote:In 1969, General Sarwo Edhi Wibowo oversaw the Indonesian conduct of the widely criticized "Act of Free Choice." Prior to the vote, the Indonesian military rounded up and detained for one month a large group of Papuan tribal leaders. The Papuans were daily threatened with death at gunpoint if the entire group did not vote to continue Indonesian rule.
I didn't support the action, I'm from Sumatra and we are not happy either with our Central Government. We tried to go independent in 1958 and became the same threatening .
But let's take the politic out from cc
e_i_pi wrote:Geger wrote:e_i_pi wrote:wikipedia wrote:In 1969, General Sarwo Edhi Wibowo oversaw the Indonesian conduct of the widely criticized "Act of Free Choice." Prior to the vote, the Indonesian military rounded up and detained for one month a large group of Papuan tribal leaders. The Papuans were daily threatened with death at gunpoint if the entire group did not vote to continue Indonesian rule.
I didn't support the action, I'm from Sumatra and we are not happy either with our Central Government. We tried to go independent in 1958 and became the same threatening .
But let's take the politic out from cc
That's why I thought West Papua would be a good name - it is generic, non-political, and describes the area well
The Neon Peon wrote:"Turret" should be changed to "territory" in the legend.
Who do the missiles bombard?
Geger wrote:Nice...
But I see something wrong with the bonuses
Melanesia has 5 territories and is in the center of the map, but has only 2 bonuses. Compare to Kiribati, that has 4 territories and is on the side of the map, but has 3 bonuses.
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