dminus - multi with hotboy [Closed]

by **AAFitz** on Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:40 pm

they are both missing turns in current games

im pretty discouraged

by **LetGodSortThem** on Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:48 pm

Me too Fitz...

by **RL_Orange** on Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:50 pm

Well since dminus is not reacting or one of the others i guess...........damn even littlesymour and dminus are missing both turns in the games :-(

by **reverend_kyle** on Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:31 pm

AK_iceman wrote:If I was a gambling man, and I am...

I bet he's guilty.

I'm all in

with you not against youj.

by **Zackismet** on Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:59 pm

this really hurts...
These are suspected multis
pminus
dminus
TitusAli
balla4life
Littlebarry
littleseymour

...and several New Recruits that joined a single game with either D or Pminus, one or two other, and never any more... but can't be sure about them... i would suspect erniepernie... but just because about 1/4 pf their games are with eaither of the two main suspects... but, they're from the netherlands, so =p

games:
dminus
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=128900
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=141008
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=140045
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=138518
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=138286
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=137980
pminus
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=140898
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=131836
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=125747

comments
pminus seems unrelated to dminus until recently, using the same scape-goats and dminus seems to be using. Their activity in the games of calculated removal of other players until dminus has a clear advantage and allows the scape to be killed. The Scape's chat in various games, but very few, is very similar to dminus'- using the same phrases, such as the "raise your hand first" mentioned earlier....

sorry, i just felt like someone should make it more official...
i really hope none of this is right....

by **MOBAJOBG** on Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:09 pm

As far as I know, pminus and dminus are brothers.

by **AAFitz** on Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:19 pm

this really is depressing, i'll leave my defense there although i abandon it fully at this point

along with the ongoing Moh trials, these have been a hard few days here...

this game is based on trust for the most part, without it, it isnt a game

I now understand why there is the super-elite clubs and the various clans

i will no longer blindly defend a higher rank, simply because ive played multiple games with them and assumed their innocence

I still believe, accusations should have adequate evidence, and not be driven by ulterior motives, but the number of people in here i would stand up for in here has diminished significantly please pardon the accidental pun i could not resist

RL, those were awesome posts and it shows you warrant full respect, i wish you were right, as do most of us I imagine

Just a week ago d invited a few of us to private games...I think now they may have been going away games

ltr d

by **hendy** on Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:54 pm

Plz some tell me D is not a multi :shock:

he is such a good player and he is a great friend

by **jaydog** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:15 am

yet no defence from D

mate if your innocent, time to say it!

the masses have spoken, and you are nowhere to be seen??

i hope your not, but bet you are.

the funny thing is then, i have beaten you even when you had multies.

OWNED

by **maniacmath17** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:24 am

I'm pretty sure dminus has zero posts last time i checked, so don't be expecting him to post. I remember a similar accusation earlier with dminus and RL_Orange accused of being multis in which dminus didn't respond.

Say it ain't so!

by **MOBAJOBG** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:23 am

jaydog wrote:...
the funny thing is then, i have beaten you (= "dminus") even when you had multies.

"jaydog"; If you are referring to this game http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=72879 then you won it, fair and square. There was no cheating involved on the part of "dminus" in that game, whatsoever.

by **reverend_kyle** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:07 am

and theres 2 more he beat you in.

by **jaydog** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:45 am

Ya just stirring the pot.

I really just want a response from Dminus.

It is sad that this could be steve griffiths all over again.

by **ourhero16** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:51 am

I suspected dminus and rl_orange 2 months ago and a wave of posts against me was made. I knew dminus was wrong from that game and purposely didn't join any games he was in. When he joined a game I was in, I took a closer look at his games played and made my post about his obvious cheating.

I guess this is a site where many people chat and make friends. I just play risk here. I've been playing for over 30 years and love the game. It's important that some of you (rl_orange) grow up and stop blindly defending someone based upon your buddy-buddy relationship and look at the facts. The game will be more fair in the long run.

Don't feel so bad for dminus. He'll just change his name and start over.

by **AAFitz** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:05 am

this sucks

by **panicker** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:52 am

AAFitz wrote:this sucks

it sucks for all the people he cheated points out of i dont know about anything else

by **KoolBak** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:48 am

I think its funny, but there is no accounting for ones sense of humor now, is there? I sent a note about p and d minus to the powers that be some time ago.....

oh well....weed out the scum and let us play on!

edit - not the folks losing points being funny but the dumbass that had to cheat.......

by **Ronaldinho** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:39 pm

jaydog wrote:
OWNED

by **Oz314** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:46 pm

panicker wrote:
AAFitz wrote:this sucks

it sucks for all the people he cheated points out of i dont know about anything else

Exactly!, and thanks for saying it.

Why does this site coddle cheaters?

There is no reason to give anyone caught cheating as a multi another chance. Delete the offending accounts and be done with it.

If the cheater is a premium member, too damn bad.

As anyone who doesn't cheat (surely almost everyone on the site) knows, it's pretty hard to earn and maintain a good ranking on this site - the competition is fierce, and luck is always a factor.

I therefore have no sympathy at all for someone who screws with the scoring system by stealing points from the rest of us.

You might say that doesn't account for someone who is sorry, who made a mistake in judgement after being a good member for so long... I say there isn't anything stopping the owner of a deleted account from starting over. He or she can then try and earn a rank honestly.

by **panicker** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:16 pm

Oz314 wrote:
panicker wrote:
AAFitz wrote:this sucks

it sucks for all the people he cheated points out of i dont know about anything else

Exactly!, and thanks for saying it.

Why does this site coddle cheaters?

There is no reason to give anyone caught cheating as a multi another chance. Delete the offending accounts and be done with it.

If the cheater is a premium member, too damn bad.

As anyone who doesn't cheat (surely almost everyone on the site) knows, it's pretty hard to earn and maintain a good ranking on this site - the competition is fierce, and luck is always a factor.

I therefore have no sympathy at all for someone who screws with the scoring system by stealing points from the rest of us.

You might say that doesn't account for someone who is sorry, who made a mistake in judgement after being a good member for so long... I say there isn't anything stopping the owner of a deleted account from starting over. He or she can then try and earn a rank honestly.

a very good point, if someone is truly sorry and really does want to stay and play , then buy a renewed premium under a new name(or same name reduced back to 1000) and build up fairly

by **schmoozeinc** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:49 pm

ive been a victim of cheaters a couple times it sux. but i posted it in the forum and got a couple busted. since i have been tryin to figure out how to stop the motivation to cheat. ive come to realize that even if the point system is revised or done away with all together basic human nature is still gonna be there. whether its creating multis or downloading some program to minipulate the dice generator. theres nothing that can be done short of playing against bots. so kick em out, let em keep playing i dont care anymore. if your in a game with me regarless of your rank i am assuming that your cheating or trying to gain an unfair advantage. its part of the risk.

by **naktay01** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:21 pm

Wait a second..... A program to manipulate the dice? Where in the Hell do I find that. man if I had that!!!!!!!
oops, I guess that is the attitude that gets u in trouble. never mind I'll just play with these dice that seem to dislike me as of late, except when I played sully a few turns ago

by **hendy** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:47 pm

can some1 plz explain what happened?

by **panicker** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:09 pm

hendy wrote:can some1 plz explain what happened?

the 4 pages prior to your post may give you some clues :roll:

by **hendy** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:16 pm

I really dont wanna read

dminus - multi with hotboy [Closed]

Well well well

This guy is guilty

Exactly what I was thinking

Re: Exactly what I was thinking

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