Football (real)

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:39 am

And yet it seems your very manhood is based on insulting a sport that you have never participated in. Is this some sort of deranged rite of passage? Who is manlier? One who plays a sport, or one who has to resort to childish banter in order to feel better about himself?

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:47 am

Jipsy king was saying that rugby league was more manly. And can you really argue that american football is more manlier than rugby league?

Oh and nice false dilemma logical fallacy

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:13 am

american football is too long, boring and stop start. its got too many pads and its, frankly, sh*te.

jipsy king · Post by **jipsy king** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:17 am

Neoteny wrote:And yet it seems your very manhood is based on insulting a sport that you have never participated in. Is this some sort of deranged right of passage? Who is manlier? One who plays a sport, or one who has to resort to childish banter in order to feel better about himself?

i was trying to keep the insults to your sport to a minimum, but then found joining in with the others was just too delicious to resist. i personally have no real issue with the sports you play, i was just commenting on your corruption of our great and glorious language, such as words like 'football'.

see also pants, chips, fanny and rubber.

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:27 am

Iliad wrote:Jipsy king was saying that rugby league was more manly. And can you really argue that american football is more manlier than rugby league?

Oh and nice false dilemma logical fallacy

Same to you. But, you did not answer, have you ever even actually played it, or are you just jumping in and repeating what you have heard from others?

HapSmo19 · Post by **HapSmo19** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:37 am

I dont see the point in even comparing the two. If not for sharing the name, this arguement wouldn't even be taking place. American(real) football is more chess-match and less of a chaotic game of hands-on soccer.
About fifteen years ago, some sports channel that doesn't exist anymore(go figure) aired all the games of whatever it is you call that and I have to admit, it was fun to watch for about five minutes.

DAZMCFC · Post by **DAZMCFC** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:34 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:I dont see the point in even comparing the two. If not for sharing the name, this arguement wouldn't even be taking place. American(real) football is more chess-match and less of a chaotic game of hands-on soccer.
About fifteen years ago, some sports channel that doesn't exist anymore(go figure) aired all the games of whatever it is you call that and I have to admit, it was fun to watch for about five minutes.

did you only watch 5 minutes and then thought to yourself "where the f*ck are the adverts, why haven't they stopped playing yet".

anyway i would like some input on how the Redskins are shaping up this year please. have they got any chance?

Bruceswar · Post by **Bruceswar** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:36 pm

DAZMCFC wrote:
did you only watch 5 minutes and then thought to yourself "where the f*ck are the adverts, why haven't they stopped playing yet".

anyway i would like some input on how the Redskins are shaping up this year please. have they got any chance?

They have a chance... Chance at being last in the division... Cowboys and Eagles are too much for them

Gypsys Kiss · Post by **Gypsys Kiss** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:01 pm

Neoteny wrote:And yet it seems your very manhood is based on insulting a sport that you have never participated in. Is this some sort of deranged right of passage? Who is manlier? One who plays a sport, or one who has to resort to childish banter in order to feel better about himself?

In regards to the 'childish banter' bit of the above sentiments, I would politely suggest that you started it by naming the thread as you did. If you had called it American Football, you wouldn't have all the football fans in here sidetraking your thread.

We can argue semantics all day about who has the right to use the word 'football' but in the end neither of us would admit defeat. I dont see why it is pretentious for us to use the word football. I dont use the word 'soccer' and I notice you dont use the term 'gridiron'. Why not?

No, I have never played gridiron but I do watch it occaisionally, but given a choice I will watch a game of football first. Oh and I am a Raiders fan.

'nuff said.

jipsy king · Post by **jipsy king** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:37 pm

the jipsys win

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:43 pm

Gypsys Kiss wrote:
Neoteny wrote:And yet it seems your very manhood is based on insulting a sport that you have never participated in. Is this some sort of deranged right of passage? Who is manlier? One who plays a sport, or one who has to resort to childish banter in order to feel better about himself?
In regards to the 'childish banter' bit of the above sentiments, I would politely suggest that you started it by naming the thread as you did. If you had called it American Football, you wouldn't have all the football fans in here sidetraking your thread.

We can argue semantics all day about who has the right to use the word 'football' but in the end neither of us would admit defeat. I dont see why it is pretentious for us to use the word football. I dont use the word 'soccer' and I notice you dont use the term 'gridiron'. Why not?

No, I have never played gridiron but I do watch it occaisionally, but given a choice I will watch a game of football first. Oh and I am a Raiders fan.

'nuff said.

Though, it would seem rather redundant to call it "American Football" when you live here, so we just use football. Granted when people from outside the US (or maybe continent, whichever it may be) may get confused by the term, but that is just how we call it.

Gypsys Kiss · Post by **Gypsys Kiss** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:10 pm

Yes, it probably would be redundant. But naming the thread as he did, Neoteny was deliberatly trying to provoke a backlash of the 'me man, you pansy' type. And then has the audacity to call us pretentious and childish.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:53 pm

Gypsys Kiss wrote:
Neoteny wrote:And yet it seems your very manhood is based on insulting a sport that you have never participated in. Is this some sort of deranged right of passage? Who is manlier? One who plays a sport, or one who has to resort to childish banter in order to feel better about himself?
In regards to the 'childish banter' bit of the above sentiments, I would politely suggest that you started it by naming the thread as you did. If you had called it American Football, you wouldn't have all the football fans in here sidetraking your thread.

We can argue semantics all day about who has the right to use the word 'football' but in the end neither of us would admit defeat. I dont see why it is pretentious for us to use the word football. I dont use the word 'soccer' and I notice you dont use the term 'gridiron'. Why not?

No, I have never played gridiron but I do watch it occaisionally, but given a choice I will watch a game of football first. Oh and I am a Raiders fan.

'nuff said.

Gypsys Kiss wrote:Yes, it probably would be redundant. But naming the thread as he did, Neoteny was deliberatly trying to provoke a backlash of the 'me man, you pansy' type. And then has the audacity to call us pretentious and childish.

You must be high, because it seems you missed the point. The pretentiousness of the original thread is not in the "football," but in the "(real)." I was responding to that. I was well aware of what I wrought, but don't pretend that it's my fault that you guys come in here with your "youse a sissy-pants" bitching. My antagonism was no worse than the creator of the other thread.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:54 pm

Iliad wrote:Jipsy king was saying that rugby league was more manly. And can you really argue that american football is more manlier than rugby league?

Oh and nice false dilemma logical fallacy

I was referring to the arguments of one sport over the other in general (which is ridiculous on all counts). Keep your fallacies to yourself.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:58 pm

Both of these sports are nothing but gay-innuendo.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:58 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:Both of these sports are nothing but gay-innuendo.

Well, that's all sport in general...

pimpdave · Post by **pimpdave** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:00 pm

Neoteny wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:Both of these sports are nothing but gay-innuendo.
Well, that's all sport in general...

Especially Ice Prancing, I mean, um, Doubles Ice Skating Routines.

pimpdave · Post by **pimpdave** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:01 pm

Is anyone else here excited about tonight's Monday Night Football game?

I sure am.

Hey, if the moon were covered in barbecue sauce, would you eat it?

I know I sure would.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:06 pm

pimpdave wrote:Is anyone else here excited about tonight's Monday Night Football game?

I sure am.

Hey, if the moon were covered in barbecue sauce, would you eat it?

I know I sure would.

I'm relying heavily on Romo tonight...

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:09 pm

Go Cowboys, but only because I hate the Eagles.

pimpdave · Post by **pimpdave** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:35 pm

I just want to see a good ball game. I don't care about either team, really. But might find myself rooting for the Eagles, because they're the underdogs.

I'm a Jets fan.

pimpdave · Post by **pimpdave** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:31 pm

Kickoff!

pimpdave · Post by **pimpdave** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:10 pm

Man, this is one hell of a game...

I can't bear to watch it live (especially since the announcers are all clearly so thoroughly preoccupied with cupping Jerry Jones' balls while blowing him, that they can't seem to be impartial in the slightest), so I keep pausing it, walking away, then using the DVR to jump ahead between plays, and skip the ads. I can't drink tonight, or else I'd be out somewhere watching it (important meeting tomorrow morning)

(DeSean Jackson is an idiot)

(also, I intend to post in this thread ubiquitously, as I think Neoteny has done us all a great service by making this thread. Everyone else, please, ramble on or post valuable analysis, let's give those limeys a run for their money -- even though we have a ton of pages to catch up)

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:20 pm

So, Collegiate or Pro football is better?

pimpdave · Post by **pimpdave** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:39 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:So, Collegiate or Pro football is better?

Actually, interesting you should ask...

There was a poll done a couple years ago showing an interesting (and striking) correlation between which political party a person sides with and which kind of football (collegiate or pro) they pay the most attention to.

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