I Would Take a Bullet for Barack Obama

[HapSmo19]

gt wins thread for number of words in a single post, news at eleven.

Fixed.

[got tonkaed]

gt wins thread for number of words in a single post, news at eleven.

Fixed.

as always i have a bit of an issue with brevity. But still, if your goal in the forums is to clearly communicate ideas (rather than win all the time) there shouldnt be a whole lot of a problem with taking the time to make your point.

[HapSmo19]

I thought I just did.

[cpurcell]

I thought I just did.

[Neoteny]

::sniff::

GT, that was beautiful...

[got tonkaed]

I thought I just did.

you did. As always if you want to talk about an issue id be happy to discuss or debate whatever. If not i have no problem posting my piece when someone else does. You wouldnt be the first person to change my text or to say "oh lots of words" instead of adding to the discussion.

[KoolBak]

Interesting thread; the only people in this world I would offer up my life for are my 2 sons. The USA will continue if Braaaack croaks; my family unit would not if I croak....

I assume the shootees here are not parents.

There are plenty of parents in the armed forces though. The police and fire departments too. Seems there are plenty willing to risk their lives (along with their family unit) for a greater cause. It doesn't take someone who has no responsibilities to be willing to die for something.

Agreed; and I thank those people every chance I get. This is completely different than offering up one's life for a candidate for the presidency my friend. Police, fireman and military folk are engaged in occupations whose goal is the welfare of the populace and comes with inherant risks

[HapSmo19]

I thought I just did.

you did. As always if you want to talk about an issue id be happy to discuss or debate whatever. If not i have no problem posting my piece when someone else does. You wouldnt be the first person to change my text or to say "oh lots of words" instead of adding to the discussion.

The discussion about taking a bullet for a liberal fascist? No thanks. I will however, discuss the idea of implimenting a social program to provide bullets for the so-inclined. Apparently there is a shortage.

[got tonkaed]

I thought I just did.

you did. As always if you want to talk about an issue id be happy to discuss or debate whatever. If not i have no problem posting my piece when someone else does. You wouldnt be the first person to change my text or to say "oh lots of words" instead of adding to the discussion.

The discussion about taking a bullet for a liberal fascist? No thanks. I will however, discuss the idea of implimenting a social program to provide bullets for the so-inclined. Apparently there is a shortage.

I never said anything about taking a bullet for anyone, i simply asked about policy. You dont really put much out there with a whole lot of substance to it, so i was more or less offering you an open door. Ive made a thread inviting mccain supporters to discuss a variety of issues with me, or anyone in a thread.

[Neoteny]

I thought I just did.

you did. As always if you want to talk about an issue id be happy to discuss or debate whatever. If not i have no problem posting my piece when someone else does. You wouldnt be the first person to change my text or to say "oh lots of words" instead of adding to the discussion.

The discussion about taking a bullet for a liberal fascist? No thanks. I will however, discuss the idea of implimenting a social program to provide bullets for the so-inclined. Apparently there is a shortage.

I never said anything about taking a bullet for anyone, i simply asked about policy. You dont really put much out there with a whole lot of substance to it, so i was more or less offering you an open door. Ive made a thread inviting mccain supporters to discuss a variety of issues with me, or anyone in a thread.

I'm putting an argument together, by the way.

[HapSmo19]

I found a substance in the condensed version of your post.....

I too believe...I don’t consider...I also believe...I do believe...I do not think...I believe... I do no believe...I do not believe...I believe that...I cannot help but......who i believe...I think...I don’t see...I see......but i think...I don’t believe......but i do believe...I also believe...I actually think...I find this...I do not think...I do not believe...I don’t believe...I find this... ...i think...I would maintain...I do not think...I don’t believe...I also don’t think...I think......i believe...Id argue......but i don’t think...I suspect......i cannot see...

Interestingly enough (invoking Godwins law aside, and the gross overapproximation used in comparing the current Democratic nominee and the Nazi party) I disagree with the analogy as a general rule.

Of course you do. Check out:
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning

While certainly gut feelings can be pushed aside temporarily, I don’t consider gut feelings that change every day quite as strong as those that are stuck to.

That doesn't even make any sense but, since you've had this "gut feeling" for a year or so over a douche you've never heard of before then, I guess that makes you correct. And besides, what harm can actually come of it in four years? Right?

[Neoteny]

I found a substance in the condensed version of your post.....

I too believe...I don’t consider...I also believe...I do believe...I do not think...I believe... I do no believe...I do not believe...I believe that...I cannot help but......who i believe...I think...I don’t see...I see......but i think...I don’t believe......but i do believe...I also believe...I actually think...I find this...I do not think...I do not believe...I don’t believe...I find this... ...i think...I would maintain...I do not think...I don’t believe...I also don’t think...I think......i believe...Id argue......but i don’t think...I suspect......i cannot see...

Interestingly enough (invoking Godwins law aside, and the gross overapproximation used in comparing the current Democratic nominee and the Nazi party) I disagree with the analogy as a general rule.

Of course you do. Check out:
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning

While certainly gut feelings can be pushed aside temporarily, I don’t consider gut feelings that change every day quite as strong as those that are stuck to.

That doesn't even make any sense but, since you've had this "gut feeling" for a year or so over a douche you've never heard of before then, I guess that makes you correct. And besides, what harm can actually come of it in four years? Right?

There's not really much substance to this post, when you compare the two.

[got tonkaed]

I found a substance in the condensed version of your post.....

I too believe...I don’t consider...I also believe...I do believe...I do not think...I believe... I do no believe...I do not believe...I believe that...I cannot help but......who i believe...I think...I don’t see...I see......but i think...I don’t believe......but i do believe...I also believe...I actually think...I find this...I do not think...I do not believe...I don’t believe...I find this... ...i think...I would maintain...I do not think...I don’t believe...I also don’t think...I think......i believe...Id argue......but i don’t think...I suspect......i cannot see...

Interestingly enough (invoking Godwins law aside, and the gross overapproximation used in comparing the current Democratic nominee and the Nazi party) I disagree with the analogy as a general rule.

Of course you do. Check out:
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning

While certainly gut feelings can be pushed aside temporarily, I don’t consider gut feelings that change every day quite as strong as those that are stuck to.

That doesn't even make any sense but, since you've had this "gut feeling" for a year or so over a douche you've never heard of before then, I guess that makes you correct. And besides, what harm can actually come of it in four years? Right?

I actually think i have a post on these forums where i explain that i disagree with some excerpts of the book. Savage while an interesting and intelligent writer, is at least in my opinion in correct in his views on the left. I havent read the book, though perhaps i will someday, but i dont think i would give it a whole lot of credit as i dont think you can really escape the bias if you don agree with it.

Im not really sure what you are talking about with the gut feelings as i wasnt referring to my own feelings but talking about someone elses.

Again i dont think your doing yourself any favors by not actually arguing anything and trying to cleverly use my quotes. Youd probably say a lot more about yourself if you took the time to share what you thought. Im fairly aware of what i think, and i am pretty comfortable with it. But if you want to follow me around for a while and try and troll around what i say, thats ok, you wouldnt be the first person.

[HapSmo19]

Jonah Goldberg is the author of Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning.
I forgot to add that.

[got tonkaed]

Jonah Goldberg is the author of Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning.
I forgot to add that.

apologies then it would appear i have gotten my right wing ideologues confused. Im pretty sure it was the excerpt from Goldberg then, not Savage which i have posted on. Either way, its the ideas, not the person which i disagreed with then and now.

[hammockboy1]

Gdeangel, that was inspiring. It really sums up why we cannot risk an Obama administration, especially if the Dems continue to hold onto Congress.

[Neoteny]

Gdeangel, that was inspiring. It really sums up why we cannot risk an Obama administration, especially if the Dems continue to hold onto Congress.

Really?

[daydream]

sometimes i wonder if people are even aware that fascism has nothing to do with the left... fascism is a far right thing.

[Neoteny]

sometimes i wonder if people are even aware that fascism has nothing to do with the left... fascism is a far right thing.

It's true. From my experience, the current vernacular connotation of fascism is merely a "bad" or "evil government." It doesn't seem to have much to do with policies or viewpoints.

[HapSmo19]

[HapSmo19]

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[Frigidus]

I found a substance in the condensed version of your post.....

I too believe...I don’t consider...I also believe...I do believe...I do not think...I believe... I do no believe...I do not believe...I believe that...I cannot help but......who i believe...I think...I don’t see...I see......but i think...I don’t believe......but i do believe...I also believe...I actually think...I find this...I do not think...I do not believe...I don’t believe...I find this... ...i think...I would maintain...I do not think...I don’t believe...I also don’t think...I think......i believe...Id argue......but i don’t think...I suspect......i cannot see...

Interestingly enough (invoking Godwins law aside, and the gross overapproximation used in comparing the current Democratic nominee and the Nazi party) I disagree with the analogy as a general rule.

Of course you do. Check out:
Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning

While certainly gut feelings can be pushed aside temporarily, I don’t consider gut feelings that change every day quite as strong as those that are stuck to.

That doesn't even make any sense but, since you've had this "gut feeling" for a year or so over a douche you've never heard of before then, I guess that makes you correct. And besides, what harm can actually come of it in four years? Right?

Oh ho, silly HapSmo, gt can hardly be considered a lefty. Amazingly enough, there are more options than left or right. Trying to bait him with a "well, your side is FASCIST PIG" argument won't work!

[Snorri1234]

sometimes i wonder if people are even aware that fascism has nothing to do with the left... fascism is a far right thing.

No no, fascism is a nationalistic authoritarian thing. It has nothing to do with either right or left.

[pimpdave]

I'm so glad that this thread avoided being merged. Please don't merge it.