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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Gilligan on Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:14 am

I'm in

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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:02 am

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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby BENJIKAT IS DEAD on Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:25 am

I'll play - Waterloo, no cards, chained, foggy - freestyle if the challenger has to join first, otherwise sequential.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby White Moose on Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:34 am

What is the minimum and maximum game load for this tournament?

If it isnt to many games, then i'll join.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby White Moose on Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:09 pm

thanks for the answer via PM diamonds.

and i would like to play.

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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:02 pm

White Moose wrote:thanks for the answer via PM diamonds.

and i would like to play.

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Challenger joins first.. so freestyle it is.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:00 am

This tournament needs at least 16 players to start.. If i cannot get that amount of players then i have to disband the tournament. Im sorry..
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby White Moose on Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:26 am

Or wait, i change to my good old Age of Realms: Might

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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby White Moose on Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:09 pm

No, wait.

Im changing map again :P

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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby jecko7 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:48 pm

I'm in.

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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:19 am

At least 5 more players..
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Re: You're a builder!

Postby White Moose on Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:23 am

Diamonds14 wrote:Registered Players

White Moose - Pearl Harbor, Freestyle, Chained, No Cards, Fog.


Seems like you forgot that i had sunny :)

and you'll get 5 more players soon, im quite sure of it.
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Re: You're a builder!

Postby Diamonds14 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:37 am

White Moose wrote:
Diamonds14 wrote:Registered Players

White Moose - Pearl Harbor, Freestyle, Chained, No Cards, Fog.


Seems like you forgot that i had sunny :)

and you'll get 5 more players soon, im quite sure of it.



Thanks white moose for the correction and the encouragement.. when i started this tournament i thought people would be signing up quickly, because its different. The settings are their own and they choose how many games they want to some degree. So i thought this tournament would be popular.. but i guess not. I was hoping for many more players then we have so there would be a wide range of games to be played. Im going to send out PMs to people asking if they want to join and hopefully that will get some more people. The tournament can have a minium of 16 players but there is no max limit. As long as i have an even amount of players. But we'll see what happens.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby jecko7 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:31 am

I would've thought that you'd get a lot of people just because of the premium award. Where is everyone?
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:08 pm

jecko7 wrote:I would've thought that you'd get a lot of people just because of the premium award. Where is everyone?


Yeah.. i have no clue. I guess it doesnt sound like fun to people.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby AndrewB on Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:09 pm

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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby AndrewB on Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:12 pm

BTW, how much money each player will start with?
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby amazzony on Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:12 pm

Diamonds14 wrote:
jecko7 wrote:I would've thought that you'd get a lot of people just because of the premium award. Where is everyone?


Yeah.. i have no clue. I guess it doesnt sound like fun to people.


It's summer (still... kinda) and people are lazy + not joining tournaments a lot... Plus, no offense, Diamonds, but you are fairly new organiser so it always takes longer for new organisers to get tournaments full (at least it seems so to me).

Btw, if you wish to send out some invites then I'd suggest you to look up 1v1 tournaments and send invites to those people. I have several of them so if you wish I will send you a list of participants.

Can't wait for this to start!
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby White Moose on Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:26 pm

Got a question which can be a little problem.

You have a starting amount of money, and you can only win a % amount of cash from each player. Won't there be a problem with getting enough money? Since there isnt any money exept for everyones starting money?

As i understand you can also buy parts of the roller coaster as you get money to it.
What if those who gets enough money buys those things, and then all that money dissapears, and then there isnt any money left.

Or will there be given out money after each round, or how will you do it?

I'm very sorry if this is explained somewhere but i've missed it.

Thanks, please PM the answer so i get to know asap.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:28 pm

White moose's question is still being thought out.. but each player will start with 30,000 dollars.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:31 pm

amazzony wrote:
Diamonds14 wrote:
jecko7 wrote:I would've thought that you'd get a lot of people just because of the premium award. Where is everyone?


Yeah.. i have no clue. I guess it doesnt sound like fun to people.


It's summer (still... kinda) and people are lazy + not joining tournaments a lot... Plus, no offense, Diamonds, but you are fairly new organiser so it always takes longer for new organisers to get tournaments full (at least it seems so to me).

Btw, if you wish to send out some invites then I'd suggest you to look up 1v1 tournaments and send invites to those people. I have several of them so if you wish I will send you a list of participants.

Can't wait for this to start!


And yeah im fairly new.. i have one completed tournament, two active, one accepting reserves/starting and 2 in sign ups.. so im new but hopefully soon ill be known as a good tournament organizer.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby White Moose on Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:24 pm

Diamond, your idea sounds good. You should post it here in the thread!
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:30 pm

White Moose wrote:Got a question which can be a little problem.

You have a starting amount of money, and you can only win a % amount of cash from each player. Won't there be a problem with getting enough money? Since there isnt any money exept for everyones starting money?

As i understand you can also buy parts of the roller coaster as you get money to it.
What if those who gets enough money buys those things, and then all that money dissapears, and then there isnt any money left.

Or will there be given out money after each round, or how will you do it?

I'm very sorry if this is explained somewhere but i've missed it.

Thanks, please PM the answer so i get to know asap.


Excellent question.. and i havent thought about it before.. but i think i have the answer. Everyone will start out with 30 thousand dollars. And every time you win a game you get the 10% (or whatever the actually percentage is) plus 15 thousand from the 'bank' (a non involved aspect of the tournament other than to give out money). Thanks for the question.. now im glad this tournament is taking some time to start haha.. getting the kinks out of it.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby AndrewB on Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:47 pm

Diamonds14 wrote:
White Moose wrote:Got a question which can be a little problem.

You have a starting amount of money, and you can only win a % amount of cash from each player. Won't there be a problem with getting enough money? Since there isnt any money exept for everyones starting money?

As i understand you can also buy parts of the roller coaster as you get money to it.
What if those who gets enough money buys those things, and then all that money dissapears, and then there isnt any money left.

Or will there be given out money after each round, or how will you do it?

I'm very sorry if this is explained somewhere but i've missed it.

Thanks, please PM the answer so i get to know asap.


Excellent question.. and i havent thought about it before.. but i think i have the answer. Everyone will start out with 30 thousand dollars. And every time you win a game you get the 10% (or whatever the actually percentage is) plus 15 thousand from the 'bank' (a non involved aspect of the tournament other than to give out money). Thanks for the question.. now im glad this tournament is taking some time to start haha.. getting the kinks out of it.


I think this solutions is flawed. In this case everyone would try just to win, to get the certain 15k. And for that you would challenge the weakest player possible every round.

I suggest the following.

Let assume that 30 people sign up.

And as I understand someone need to win 660k to win the tournament. So lets make the money pool as close to 660K*2=1320k as possible. But it still must be less then 1320k, in order to prevent 2 players winning in the same time. So lets make it an even number of 1200k.

So what you do is divide 1200k by 30 players. I.E. Each player gets 40k.

If 20 players sign up then each player gets 60k.

In this case, as Tournament progresses, you must challenge the rich (i.e. strong) guys in order to continue winning, because weak guys will be broke and you will have nothing to gain from them.

Also you need to think of process for eliminating broke people. Because every can lose maximum of 10%, their loss can be endless. You have to make the minimum challenge stake to be 10% or 1k, whichever is greater. If player does not have 1k, then he must put his whole bank, whatever is left of it. If player puts his whole bank and loses, he is eliminated.
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Re: Do you want to build a Roller Coaster? (Premium Award)

Postby Diamonds14 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:32 am

AndrewB wrote:
Diamonds14 wrote:
White Moose wrote:Got a question which can be a little problem.

You have a starting amount of money, and you can only win a % amount of cash from each player. Won't there be a problem with getting enough money? Since there isnt any money exept for everyones starting money?

As i understand you can also buy parts of the roller coaster as you get money to it.
What if those who gets enough money buys those things, and then all that money dissapears, and then there isnt any money left.

Or will there be given out money after each round, or how will you do it?

I'm very sorry if this is explained somewhere but i've missed it.

Thanks, please PM the answer so i get to know asap.


Excellent question.. and i havent thought about it before.. but i think i have the answer. Everyone will start out with 30 thousand dollars. And every time you win a game you get the 10% (or whatever the actually percentage is) plus 15 thousand from the 'bank' (a non involved aspect of the tournament other than to give out money). Thanks for the question.. now im glad this tournament is taking some time to start haha.. getting the kinks out of it.


I think this solutions is flawed. In this case everyone would try just to win, to get the certain 15k. And for that you would challenge the weakest player possible every round.

I suggest the following.

Let assume that 30 people sign up.

And as I understand someone need to win 660k to win the tournament. So lets make the money pool as close to 660K*2=1320k as possible. But it still must be less then 1320k, in order to prevent 2 players winning in the same time. So lets make it an even number of 1200k.

So what you do is divide 1200k by 30 players. I.E. Each player gets 40k.

If 20 players sign up then each player gets 60k.

In this case, as Tournament progresses, you must challenge the rich (i.e. strong) guys in order to continue winning, because weak guys will be broke and you will have nothing to gain from them.

Also you need to think of process for eliminating broke people. Because every can lose maximum of 10%, their loss can be endless. You have to make the minimum challenge stake to be 10% or 1k, whichever is greater. If player does not have 1k, then he must put his whole bank, whatever is left of it. If player puts his whole bank and loses, he is eliminated.



And this is why i allow suggestions in my tournaments.. there are so many people with wonderful ideas. Thank you Andrew for your excellent suggestion. This is how the tournament will work.
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