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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<

Postby MrBenn on Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:41 am

700th post in this thread...

Update coming tonight [GMT]
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/47<

Postby MrBenn on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:43 pm

I can't remember if I've updated anything on the map, but here is the latest image I'm working from (with a random choice of title)
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And here is the next round of titles to choose from:
Option A wrote:Image

Option B wrote:Image

Option C wrote:Image

Option D wrote:Image

Option E wrote:Image

Option F wrote:Image

I have kept the font the same as that used elsewhere on the map - I felt that different typefaces didn't quite fit...

I've set up the poll... so HAPPY VOTING!
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/47<

Postby ZeakCytho on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:48 pm

B all the way!
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/47<

Postby RjBeals on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:54 pm

I vote E.. I like the moon.
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/47<

Postby MrBenn on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:57 pm

I would be happy with any of these; I have a couple of favourites, so I hope they do well ;-)
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/47<

Postby MrBenn on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:59 pm

Quoting to get the options at the top of the page:
MrBenn wrote:I can't remember if I've updated anything on the map, but here is the latest image I'm working from (with a random choice of title)
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And here is the next round of titles to choose from:
Option A wrote:Image

Option B wrote:Image

Option C wrote:Image

Option D wrote:Image

Option E wrote:Image

Option F wrote:Image

I have kept the font the same as that used elsewhere on the map - I felt that different typefaces didn't quite fit...

I've set up the poll... so HAPPY VOTING!
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby whitestazn88 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:01 pm

option b is nice
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<

Postby Ogrecrusher on Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:41 pm

Ogrecrusher wrote:I think the rivers should look like rivers not fjords, if you see what I mean.
Right now they just look like long narrow inlets.


This been overlooked? Any comments? :)
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<

Postby MrBenn on Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:44 pm

Ogrecrusher wrote:
Ogrecrusher wrote:I think the rivers should look like rivers not fjords, if you see what I mean.
Right now they just look like long narrow inlets.


This been overlooked? Any comments? :)

Don't worry - this hasn't been overlooked - I've been focusing on the title ;-)

Does anybody else have an opinion?
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >>p1/45 New Update<<

Postby pepperonibread on Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:19 pm

MrBenn wrote:
Ogrecrusher wrote:
Ogrecrusher wrote:I think the rivers should look like rivers not fjords, if you see what I mean.
Right now they just look like long narrow inlets.


This been overlooked? Any comments? :)

Don't worry - this hasn't been overlooked - I've been focusing on the title ;-)

Does anybody else have an opinion?


I like the rivers, they're simple, but I doubt anything more complicated would fit with the map like they do now.
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby MrBenn on Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:02 pm

Only 12 votes in the poll? Where is everybody??
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby edbeard on Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:11 pm

I preferred the options on the previous poll. I don't have any preference one way or another. I'd say just pick the one you like and go with it.
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby The Viking on Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:16 pm

edbeard wrote:I preferred the options on the previous poll. I don't have any preference one way or another. I'd say just pick the one you like and go with it.

Ditto :|
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby pepperonibread on Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:32 pm

The Viking wrote:
edbeard wrote:I preferred the options on the previous poll. I don't have any preference one way or another. I'd say just pick the one you like and go with it.

Ditto :|


Tritto. Usually for this kind of stuff, a only a few opinions and your own judgment is needed.
I'd go for any of the last three, as I don't think the gold beveled stars go with the rest of the map.
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:51 pm

All I need is one more vote for F, to put each choice at 3 votes :lol:

I think I'm going to go for D, but make the Europa goddess slightly lighter.

As for the rivers, I'm inclined to leave them as they are, unless there is an overwhelming surge of people who would like something different. The current style fits the rest of the map nicely in my opinion, and I'm not convinced a change would necessarily be for the better... ;-)
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby White Moose on Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:05 am

Is it just me.. or isnt another Europe map really unnessecary?
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby Androidz on Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:52 am

i think the title will look better if you move it closer to the horse i think it will go fitt perfectly above the little downhill on the top of norway.

Another thing i don't know if this is a old version but Italy seem a bit oddly drawn. no terretorie lines?
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:38 am

I didnt vote because i like all of them.
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby edbeard on Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:01 pm

White Moose wrote:Is it just me.. or isnt another Europe map really unnessecary?


just you. there are many problems with the other Europe map in terms of correct names and groupings. This map addresses those problems (and doesn't include Africa as part of the map) without having to revamp the old map.

The gameplay is completely different so why does it matter that they both deal with Europe. If you really hate it, it'll be another map you can skip over on the game finder tab.
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] >NEW TITLE POLL p1/48<

Postby gimil on Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:31 am

Which title do you like the best (Round 2) - choices on p1/48

You may select 1 option

A
6
20%

B
6
20%

C
4
13%

D
6
20%

E
3
10%

F
4
13%


Total votes : 29
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] p1/49 **Updated**

Postby MrBenn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:58 pm

Update!
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  • Option D is the one I've gone with for the title, although I've made a few tweaks as the poll was so inconclusive
  • I've added a very slight gradient to the ocean, making it slightly brighter down in the Mediterranean, and slightly colder/darker in the North
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] p1/49 **Updated**XML**

Postby MrBenn on Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:24 pm

Here's my first ever attempt at some XML...
I haven't put in any coordinates yet, and the large image size is empty; other than that, I'm hoping I've got all the borders and continents right :?:
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
   <title>Europa</title>
   <smallwidth>630</smallwidth>
   <smallheight>500</smallheight>
   <largewidth>630</largewidth>
   <largeheight>500</largeheight>
   <filetype>jpg</filetype>


<continent>
   <name>Scandinavia</name>
     <bonus>4</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Greenland</territory>
       <territory>Iceland</territory>
       <territory>Faroe Islands</territory>
       <territory>Norway</territory>
       <territory>Sweden</territory>
       <territory>Finland</territory>
       <territory>Denmark</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>the British Isles</name>
     <bonus>3</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Scotland</territory>
       <territory>Northern Ireland</territory>
       <territory>Republic of Ireland</territory>
       <territory>Wales</territory>
       <territory>England</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Western Europe</name>
     <bonus>5</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Portugal</territory>
       <territory>Spain</territory>
       <territory>Gibraltar</territory>
       <territory>Balearics</territory>
       <territory>Andorra</territory>
       <territory>France</territory>
       <territory>Monaco</territory>
       <territory>Corsica</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Benelux</name>
     <bonus>2</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Belgium</territory>
       <territory>Netherlands</territory>
       <territory>Luxembourg</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Central Europe</name>
     <bonus>3</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Germany</territory>
       <territory>Switzerland</territory>
       <territory>Liechtenstein</territory>
       <territory>Austria</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>the Italic States</name>
     <bonus>3</bonus>
     <components>
       <name>Italy</name>
       <name>San Marino</name>
       <name>Vatican City</name>
       <name>Sardinia</name>
       <name>Sicily</name>
       <name>Malta</name>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>the Balkan States</name>
     <bonus>5</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Slovenia</territory>
       <territory>Croatia</territory>
       <territory>Bosnia & Herzegovina</territory>
       <territory>Serbia</territory>
       <territory>Montenegro</territory>
       <territory>Albania</territory>
       <territory>Macedonia</territory>
       <territory>Bulgaria</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>the Hellenics</name>
     <bonus>2</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Greece</territory>
       <territory>Crete</territory>
       <territory>Cyprus</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Eastern Europe</name>
     <bonus>6</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Czech Republic</territory>
       <territory>Poland</territory>
       <territory>Slovakia</territory>
       <territory>Hungary</territory>
       <territory>Romania</territory>
       <territory>Moldova</territory>
       <territory>Ukraine</territory>
       <territory>Belarus</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>the Baltics</name>
     <bonus>2</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Estonia</territory>
       <territory>Latvia</territory>
       <territory>Lithuania</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Transcontinental Europe</name>
     <bonus>4</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Kaliningrad</territory>
       <territory>Russia</territory>
       <territory>Georgia</territory>
       <territory>Azerbaijan</territory>
       <territory>Armenia</territory>
       <territory>Turkey</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>the Motherland</name>
     <bonus>1</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Kaliningrad</territory>
       <territory>Russia</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>any 5 Mediterranean Islands</name>
     <bonus>3</bonus>
     <components>
       <territory>Balearics</territory>
       <territory>Corsica</territory>
       <territory>Sardinia</territory>
       <territory>Sicily</territory>
       <territory>Malta</territory>
       <territory>Crete</territory>
       <territory>Cyprus</territory>
   </components>
   <required>5</required>
</continent>



<territory>
   <name>Greenland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Iceland</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Iceland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Greenland</border>
      <border>Faroe Islands</border>
      <border>Norway</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Faroe Islands</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Iceland</border>
      <border>Denmark</border>
      <border>Scotland</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Norway</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Iceland</border>
      <border>Sweden</border>
      <border>Finland</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Sweden</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Norway</border>
      <border>Finland</border>
      <border>Denmark</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Finland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Norway</border>
      <border>Sweden</border>
      <border>Russia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Denmark</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Faroe Islands</border>
      <border>Sweden</border>
      <border>Germany</border>
      <border></border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Scotland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Faroe Islands</border>
      <border>Northern Ireland</border>
      <border>England</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Northern Ireland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Scotland</border>
      <border>Republic of Ireland</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Republic of Ireland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Northern Ireland</border>
      <border>Wales</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Wales</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Republic of Ireland</border>
      <border>England</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>England</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Scotland</border>
      <border>France</border>
      <border>Netherlands</border>
      <border>Spain</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Portugal</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Spain</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Spain</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Portugal</border>
      <border>Gibraltar</border>
      <border>England</border>
      <border>Balearics</border>
      <border>Andorra</border>
      <border>France</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Gibraltar</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Spain</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Balearics</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Spain</border>
      <border>Sardinia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Andorra</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Spain</border>
      <border>France</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>France</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Spain</border>
      <border>Andorra</border>
      <border>England</border>
      <border>Belgium</border>
      <border>Luxembourg</border>
      <border>Germany</border>
      <border>Switzerland</border>
      <border>Italy</border>
      <border>Monaco</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Monaco</name>
   <borders>
      <border>France</border>
      <border>Corsica</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Corsica</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Monaco</border>
      <border>Sardinia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Belgium</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Netherlands</border>
      <border>Luxembourg</border>
      <border>France</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Netherlands</name>
   <borders>
      <border>England</border>
      <border>Belgium</border>
      <border>Germany</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Luxembourg</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Belgium</border>
      <border>France</border>
      <border>Germany</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Germany</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Denmark</border>
      <border>Belgium</border>
      <border>Netherlands</border>
      <border>Luxembourg</border>
      <border>France</border>
      <border>Switzerland</border>
      <border>Austria</border>
      <border>Czech Republic</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Switzerland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>France</border>
      <border>Germany</border>
      <border>Liechtenstein</border>
      <border>Austria</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Liechtenstein</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Switzerland</border>
      <border>Austria</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Austria</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Germany</border>
      <border>Switzerland</border>
      <border>Liechtenstein</border>
      <border>Slovenia</border>
      <border>Hungary</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Italy</name>
   <borders>
      <border>France</border>
      <border>Slovenia</border>
      <border>San Marino</border>
      <border>Vatican City</border>
      <border>Sicily</border>
      <border>Greece</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>San Marino</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Italy</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Vatican City</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Italy</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Sardinia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Balearics</border>
      <border>Corsica</border>
      <border>Sicily</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Sicily</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Sardinia</border>
      <border>Italy</border>
      <border>Malta</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Malta</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Sicily</border>
      <border>Crete</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Slovenia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Italy</border>
      <border>Austria</border>
      <border>Hungary</border>
      <border>Croatia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Croatia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Hungary</border>
      <border>Slovenia</border>
      <border>Bosnia & Herzegovina</border>
      <border>Serbia</border>
      <border>Montenegro</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Bosnia & Herzegovina</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Croatia</border>
      <border>Serbia</border>
      <border>Montenegro</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Serbia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Croatia</border>
      <border>Bosnia & Herzegovina</border>
      <border>Montenegro</border>
      <border>Albania</border>
      <border>Macedonia</border>
      <border>Bulgaria</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Montenegro</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Croatia</border>
      <border>Bosnia & Herzegovina</border>
      <border>Serbia</border>
      <border>Albania</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Albania</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Montenegro</border>
      <border>Serbia</border>
      <border>Macedonia</border>
      <border>Greece</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Macedonia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Albania</border>
      <border>Serbia</border>
      <border>Bulgaria</border>
      <border>Greece</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Bulgaria</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Serbia</border>
      <border>Macedonia</border>
      <border>Greece</border>
      <border>Turkey</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Greece</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Italy</border>
      <border>Albania</border>
      <border>Macedonia</border>
      <border>Bulgaria</border>
      <border>Crete</border>
      <border>Turkey</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Crete</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Malta</border>
      <border>Greece</border>
      <border>Cyprus</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Cyprus</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Crete</border>
      <border>Turkey</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Czech Republic</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Germany</border>
      <border>Poland</border>
      <border>Slovakia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Poland</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Czech Republic</border>
      <border>Slovakia</border>
      <border>Ukraine</border>
      <border>Belarus</border>
      <border>Kaliningrad</border>
      <border>Lithuania</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Slovakia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Czech Republic</border>
      <border>Poland</border>
      <border>Ukraine</border>
      <border>Romania</border>
      <border>Hungary</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Hungary</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Austria</border>
      <border>Slovenia</border>
      <border>Croatia</border>
      <border>Slovakia</border>
      <border>Czech Republic</border>
      <border>Slovakia</border>
      <border>Ukraine</border>
      <border>Romania</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Romania</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Hungary</border>
      <border>Ukraine</border>
      <border>Moldova</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Moldova</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Ukraine</border>
      <border>Romania</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Ukraine</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Moldova</border>
      <border>Romania</border>
      <border>Hungary</border>
      <border>Slovakia</border>
      <border>Poland</border>
      <border>Belarus</border>
      <border>Russia</border>
      <border></border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Belarus</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Poland</border>
      <border>Ukraine</border>
      <border>Lithuania</border>
      <border>Latvia</border>
      <border>Russia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Estonia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Latvia</border>
      <border>Russia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Latvia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Estonia</border>
      <border>Lithuania</border>
      <border>Belarus</border>
      <border>Russia</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Lithuania</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Latvia</border>
      <border>Kaliningrad</border>
      <border>Poland</border>
      <border>Belarus</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

<territory>
   <name>Kaliningrad</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Poland</border>
      <border>Belarus</border>
      <border>Lithuania</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Russia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Norway</border>
      <border>Finland</border>
      <border>Estonia</border>
      <border>Latvia</border>
      <border>Belarus</border>
      <border>Ukraine</border>
      <border>Georgia</border>
      <border>Azerbaijan</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Georgia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Russia</border>
      <border>Azerbaijan</border>
      <border>Armenia</border>
      <border>Turkey</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Azerbaijan</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Russia</border>
      <border>Georgia</border>
      <border>Armenia</border>
      <border>Turkey</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Armenia</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Georgia</border>
      <border>Azerbaijan</border>
      <border>Turkey</border>
   </borders>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Turkey</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Georgia</border>
      <border>Armenia</border>
      <border>Azerbaijan</border>
      <border>Bulgaria</border>
      <border>Greece</border>
      <border>Cyprus</border>
   </borders>
</territory>

</map>
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] p1/49 **Updated**XML**

Postby gimil on Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:27 am

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Nice work benny =D>

Another nice classic gameplay map on the way :)
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] p1/49 **Updated**XML**

Postby Androidz on Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:37 am

Why is Italy so diffrent from the other continents? its looks not so good.
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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] p1/49 **Updated**XML**

Postby yeti_c on Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:52 am

Congrats on the Stamp benny.

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