Restrictions on foe list

[GabonX]

I think that it would be good if people who were found to be abusing the foe's list could have restrictions placed on them..

--For example if a player is found to be using the foe list to inflate his rank or some other obvious abuse of the site their foe list privileges should be revoked. Otherwise let people foe who they wish.

[Timminz]

How 'bout we don't? The mods have enough on their plate (at least, that's what they tell us) without having to deal with "foe list appeals". That's why the current rating system is in place. Y'know? If you're on somebody's foe list and if somebody's on yours, I'm sure there was good enough reason for that person to put you there. And who are you or the mods to say that their reason is silly or inappropriate? It's their gaming experience, they should be able to play (or not play) who ever they damn well please. Maybe they have a lisp and find s's offencive, so they block everybody with an s in their name. Maybe their white supremacists and don't want to play with anybody who goes against their ideals. Ultimately, who cares? It's not like you can't keep playing the game. If they're the only person who makes that type of game that you want to play, then make your own. It's no biggy. Just keep on playin' and try to have fun, eh?

I quoted this because it got stuck at the bottom of the first page, and I think more people should read it.

To the OP: If someone doesn't want to play you, they don't have to. Get over it. There are far bigger things to worry about. Even here on CC. If you find yourself on someone's 'foe' list, and you would like not to be, send them a PM. If they don't respond, or tell you to GFY, well... too bad. Move on.

[cicero]

dear friends

I would like this beautiful discussion to remain on topic.

If anyone feels the need to offer positivitation and general saccharine prescriptions to our co-members in love please consider starting a thread for this noble purpose in Chatter Box.

If anyone feels the need to discuss this particular post - in love and with joy - please send me a darling PM.

With all due respect and felicitations


Cicero

[mpjh]

ok

[KLOBBER]

How 'bout we don't? The mods have enough on their plate (at least, that's what they tell us) without having to deal with "foe list appeals". That's why the current rating system is in place. Y'know? If you're on somebody's foe list and if somebody's on yours, I'm sure there was good enough reason for that person to put you there. And who are you or the mods to say that their reason is silly or inappropriate? It's their gaming experience, they should be able to play (or not play) who ever they damn well please. Maybe they have a lisp and find s's offencive, so they block everybody with an s in their name. Maybe their white supremacists and don't want to play with anybody who goes against their ideals. Ultimately, who cares? It's not like you can't keep playing the game. If they're the only person who makes that type of game that you want to play, then make your own. It's no biggy. Just keep on playin' and try to have fun, eh?

I quoted this because it got stuck at the bottom of the first page, and I think more people should read it.

To the OP: If someone doesn't want to play you, they don't have to. Get over it. There are far bigger things to worry about. Even here on CC. If you find yourself on someone's 'foe' list, and you would like not to be, send them a PM. If they don't respond, or tell you to GFY, well... too bad. Move on.

My sentiments exactly, gentle friend. No need to become an internet stalker over a computer game.

Have a wonderful day!

[KLOBBER]

I think that it would be good if people who were found to be abusing the foe's list could have restrictions placed on them..

--For example if a player is found to be using the foe list to inflate his rank or some other obvious abuse of the site their foe list privileges should be revoked. Otherwise let people foe who they wish.

Kind and benevolent friend,

The Foes list does not affect rank. Rank is based solely on points won from other members in games, and number of games finished.

Your confusion is unfortunate, but I am happy to set you straight on the facts, dearest chum.

I hope you have a marvelous day!

[Simon Viavant]

^This is exactly what I'm talking about^

[Timminz]

^This is exactly what I'm talking about^

Put him on your 'foe' list, and you won't have to read it anymore.

[KLOBBER]

^This is exactly what I'm talking about^

Put him on your 'foe' list, and you won't have to read it anymore.

Excellent point, bosom companion!

I hope you have a truly wondrous day!

[GabonX]

I think that it would be good if people who were found to be abusing the foe's list could have restrictions placed on them..

--For example if a player is found to be using the foe list to inflate his rank or some other obvious abuse of the site their foe list privileges should be revoked. Otherwise let people foe who they wish.

Kind and benevolent friend,

The Foes list does not affect rank. Rank is based solely on points won from other members in games, and number of games finished.

Your confusion is unfortunate, but I am happy to set you straight on the facts, dearest chum.

I hope you have a marvelous day!

Quite to the contrary the foe list can affect rank. If say, a player is now or would in the future add players to his foe list not because of some negativity experienced between two players but instead because they don't want to face more challenging competition then this would be an abuse of the ranking system and would exemplify how the foe list influences rank in an unintended way.

On a completely unrelated note I have noticed that you have put me on your foe list. Seeing as how you consider me to be your friend I think there must have been some mistake and I humbly request that you remove me so that we can play again some time. I very much enjoyed the games that we played and thats not just because I won 2 out of 3 of them. Hopefully we can pay again some time.

[mpjh]

As I learn more about how this site works, I am becoming more confused by this thread. Aren't there private games that only let in the 6 or 7 players that have the password? Isn't that a form of foe list? Aren't the private players just naming everyone else but themselves as foes, effectively?

Well of course they are. So can't we just get off this kick that a little iddy biddy individual foe list is of any consequence?

[KLOBBER]

As I learn more about how this site works, I am becoming more confused by this thread. Aren't there private games that only let in the 6 or 7 players that have the password? Isn't that a form of foe list? Aren't the private players just naming everyone else but themselves as foes, effectively?

Well of course they are. So can't we just get off this kick that a little iddy biddy individual foe list is of any consequence?

This is an excellent point. Before any restrictions would be placed on the foe list, the private games feature would have to be eradicated, or we risk hypocrisy.

[trapyoung]

mpjh, the restriction on the foe list is supposed to prevent certain individuals (klobber) from foe listing most of the site to only play new recruits. technically, if klobber wanted, the restriction could be enacted and he could still set up his games as private invite only and he could invite the new recruits. i think that's a great suggestion, it prevents abuse by other members, allows klobber to read all of our posts without clicking a link, and let's him become even better friends with new recruits by giving them one of their first pm's inviting them to his passworded, invite only circus maximus game. i see no problem with this suggestion, benefits klobber and the site.

[mpjh]

I made no suggestion. I simply pointed out that anyone, that is anyone, using a private game is acting no differently than Klobber. I oppose any restrictions on foe lists.

[Simon Viavant]

Private games are just inviting your friends to play a game with you. That's more including them than excluding the rest of CC. Foe listing is not playing someone because they're a douche. Or because you can inflate your score by only playing newbs. I think the 50 foe list limit would be a solution, because if there's more than 50 people on CC that are douches to you, (other than just flaming for the hell of it in FW) you have a problem. The only reason someone would go over 50 would be by using the only play newbs strategy. And stop trying to turn this into a f***ing Klobber thread. BTW, should I add a poll to this?

[mpjh]

Your differentiation between private games and a large foes list is purely semantic. The fact is that private games keep everyone but those holding the password out. In fact, a large foes list might actually be more egalitarian than a private list. Think of it as the difference between the YMCA and the Yale Skull and Bones. Each excludes some people based on some criteria, however the Yale organization is far more effective at excluding all but a select few, much like the private games.

Leave the foes list alone, and if compelled to change the rules, do away with private games, let us all have a shot at the big shots and allow first-come first-serve in all games.

[Simon Viavant]

People do private games to play their friends, because they don't want to foe everyone who's not one of their friends. Or to AVOID deadbeats. Nobody does private games to get deadbeat newbs. You admitted yourself that you're still learning how this site works, and I think you pretty much missed the whole point of this thread. If you have objections with a foe list with a max 50 spots, you are either milking the system or have big behavior problems.

[mpjh]

Hey, no point in flaming me. A private game is just a more genteel way of keeping those whom you consider low files out of your game. It is no different than a foe list. It is even more exclusive and pernicious than a foe list because it blocks out everyone, even those that could contribute to an exciting game play.

[Simon Viavant]

Geez, you really don't get it. And that wasn't a flame. The foe list and private games are similar, the difference is HOW THEY ARE USED.

Private games:

• Play a game with your friends
• Avoid deadbeats
• Challenge some high scored people

Foe list:

• Avoid douches.
• Milk the scoring system by only playing deadbeat newbs.

A 50 spot max shouldn't give you a problem avoiding douches. It WOULD give you a problem milking the scoring system by only playing deadbeat newbs.

[FabledIntegral]

If you foe more than 50 people because they actually make the game not fun for you instead of just doing the only play newbs strategy, you have a BIG problem. No more than 50 would stop the only play noobs strategy, and like I said before, if there's more than 50 people you really can't stand, you have a problem.

I believe you are stating such because most likely, YOU are part of the problem. With your inadequate strategies, more than likely you ruin the game for other people. Hence the reason you're a cook. Maybe your games aren't ruined by others because you are able to ruin them all by yourself! I don't believe it is me with the problem, as there are many like me, who take enjoyment in planning out a strategy in these games, rather than autoing whatever is next to you.

You put a set limit, such as 50, which shows nothing more than complete and total ignorance on the subject. As stated in a previous post - this affects people differently depending on the amount of games they play. Maybe because you're too cheap to pay for premium, you don't encounter a wide range of people, and you also don't become as annoyed with people who ruin your strategy because you never had one in the first place, but when you are able to play with a large group of players due to premium, then you're going to encounter a significant larger number of people. Since it's all relative to games played, a set number such as 50 is stupid.

So before telling me I have a problem, I suggest you go and get an education, both in RISK (as shown by your rank) and mathematics.

[Simon Viavant]

So now your strategy is to get this topic either locked or moved to flame wars?

[FabledIntegral]

So now your strategy is to get this topic either locked or moved to flame wars?

I can see you can keep the topic relevant - way to continue showing your intellect. Case in point. I think we're done here.

[Simon Viavant]

I had nothing to say to you cause you didn't say anything in that first post.

[FabledIntegral]

I had nothing to say to you cause you didn't say anything in that first post.

I'm sure you'll make a great attorney when you grow up. As it stands, I believe you have shown an utter failure to defend your points.

Glad with no one really defending this, it won't be implemented.

[KLOBBER]

mpjh, the restriction on the foe list is supposed to prevent certain individuals (klobber) from foe listing most of the site to only play new recruits. technically, if klobber wanted, the restriction could be enacted and he could still set up his games as private invite only and he could invite the new recruits. i think that's a great suggestion, it prevents abuse by other members, allows klobber to read all of our posts without clicking a link, and let's him become even better friends with new recruits by giving them one of their first pm's inviting them to his passworded, invite only circus maximus game. i see no problem with this suggestion, benefits klobber and the site.

If I had a preference for playing new recruits (which I do not), I could have been doing it that way all along, which I have not.

I only foe people who prove themselves to be too low class to play. They prove this in a number of imaginative ways, exclusively outside the map.

I hope you have a wonderful day!